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Canucks Prospect Pool still ranked Top Ten in NHL at #8 by Sporting News

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11 hours ago, Alflives said:

Pods already studies English.  He takes classes three days a week.  

When I heard that he takes English classes i thought even higher of him.  Pods is kind of like Petey.  He seems to identify a need to make himself better, and then works super hard to attain it.  Super high compete guy for sure. 

As a future captain of Russia's senior team, he felt it was imperative to speak English

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32 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Don’t be daft the Bouchard comments were for aGENT - was teasing thought it was pretty obvious .... also their “gutted” team still almost got 100 points,  in 68 games - they still dominated.  But in case your interested Bouchard had a great year - from start to finish in his draft plus one, two years in a row OHL defenseman of the year - and had a monster playoffs OJs stats don’t match up well both in his draft year (when all those guys you’ve named were on it) and his draft plus one year.    

 

OJ will play most the year in the AHL with who’s ahead of him, and it should help him - he still needs work catching up to his defensive game which I’m pretty sure he will do.  Injuries have derailed and delayed the process, he’s going to need more time - never said he was a bust.   

 

Edit:  you do know Bouchard wasn’t eligible to play in the AHL last year right?  Otherwise he’d have made it no problem - MJ way to easy for him.

Yes, OHL stats don't mean much, dane fox?

 

I Use most non NHL leagues as a measuring stick to possible potential output,career length etc.

 

I could make the argument of OJ also being new to N.A. - big cultural change.

 

We can agree to disagee re: OJ vs EB.

 

I feel both will basically be the same points wise with OJ more cerebral as opposed to EB, with EB being a better shooter/ goal scorer. 

 

Overall EB better offensively

OJ more rounded game with more assists

Totaling the same point totals.

 

Edmonton prospects are a sad thing to see being ruined, another worry of mine. 

 

ITALICS IS SARCASM! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, N7Nucks said:

Juolevi below DiPietro, Hoglander and Woo. LOL. Not sure I'd have him that far down my list but hey, I don't get paid to be wrong.

I'm not surprised that Juolevi's down and forgotten. But it may work for him actually. Less media coverage on him, less expectations - he's kind of forgotten in a market that often does not forget easily on any of their prospects or players. That should do him some good while it lasts cause it won't last long. 

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On 8/19/2019 at 3:24 PM, Bure_Pavel said:

If the Canucks dont have a first next year (make the playoffs) and how stacked the 2020 draft is, they will likely not be in the top 15 next year for prospects. 

They technically have the option to swap to 2021 so we will see if they make it or not

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7 hours ago, teepain said:

They technically have the option to swap to 2021 so we will see if they make it or not

Only if they dont make the playoff I believe

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Some of Canucks prospects are going to play in Russia this week:

 

 Unfortunately Karel Plasek is injured and does not play, he was originally included in the U20 Czech team for this tournament.

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On 8/20/2019 at 5:11 PM, GhostsOf1994 said:

Tryamkin is great and all but He will never be an NHL captain, out of shape then returning to russia is not captain material.

He was not #5 in the world he was the highest ranked D man by scouts, think how bad the Canucks d prospects would look if they chose tkapuke over a d man?

 

Yes tkapuke is talented and yes he is a pain to play against, d men are harder to develop and even harder to trade for. Petey, Brock, Horvat, Miller, Podkolzin etc plus juolevi Or tkapuke ?

OJ d1+ year was after his team was gutted from the NHL draft. Not hard to figure it out.

 

1.Christian Dvorak (C)  5952691212756

2.Mitch Marner (RW)  5739771166845

3.Matthew Tkachuk (LW)  5730771078045

4.Aaron Berisha (RW)  664527723540

5.J.J. Piccinich (RW)  663036661923

6.Max Jones (LW)  6328245210630

7.Olli Juolevi (D)  57933421638

8.Victor Mete (D)  68830381853

9.Kole Sherwood (RW)  63122234539

10.Cliff Pu (RW)  631219312412

 

 Then his d+1 year as follows.

 

Cliff Pu (RW)  633551863625

2.J.J. Piccinich (RW)  662646722418

3.Robert Thomas (C/RW)  661650662641

4.Janne Kuokkanen (LW/C)  602636621424

5.Sam Miletic (LW)  653718552331

6.Victor Mete (D)  501529441436

7.Evan Bouchard (D)  681133442430

8.Olli Juolevi (D)  581032423626

9.Owen MacDonald (C/RW)  611621373414

10.Max Jones (LW)  331719366523

 

Far easier to claim juolevi sucks then to look in depth right?

Lol comparing D men in the OHL is silly.

Why don't you compare McDavids numbers vs alexandre daigles ?

 

How about bouchard vs juolevi stats in the AHL? Better league and players then the OHL right?

 

Oh thats because bouchard has not played in the AHL!

especially with edmonton needing RHD badly he is where?

 

Major junior!

 

A real elite talent, leaps and bounds better then OJ! :picard:

Hate to be that guy, but Bouchard did play in the AHL last year. He played 8 playoff games with Condors and was a point per game. I hate to say it because I do really like Juolevi, but at this point I would give the edge to Bouchard as the better NHL prospect. I think he could become a 50 point NHL player. 

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23 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said:

Hate to be that guy, but Bouchard did play in the AHL last year. He played 8 playoff games with Condors and was a point per game. I hate to say it because I do really like Juolevi, but at this point I would give the edge to Bouchard as the better NHL prospect. I think he could become a 50 point NHL player. 

Mitch Eliot will be better than Evan Bouchard!

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19 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said:

Mitch Eliot will be better than Evan Bouchard!

To be fair Mitch Eliot is the greatest hockey play to ever live. 

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On 8/22/2019 at 9:44 AM, Bure_Pavel said:

Hate to be that guy, but Bouchard did play in the AHL last year. He played 8 playoff games with Condors and was a point per game. I hate to say it because I do really like Juolevi, but at this point I would give the edge to Bouchard as the better NHL prospect. I think he could become a 50 point NHL player. 

He'll likely put up more offense. Not sure I'd be ready to declare him an overall better D man though.

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On 8/24/2019 at 3:21 PM, aGENT said:

He'll likely put up more offense. Not sure I'd be ready to declare him an overall better D man though.

Wow, shocker. 

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Posted (edited)

so far the athletic has us in the top 7.

 

Ill update and subscribe for a free week when they have show the complete rankings

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On 8/23/2019 at 9:38 AM, Bure_Pavel said:

To be fair Mitch Eliot is the greatest hockey play to ever live. 

I luv Hitch Meliot!!!

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On 8/28/2019 at 5:26 PM, AV's Coin said:

so far the athletic has us in the top 7.

 

Ill update and subscribe for a free week when they have show the complete rankings

Pronman on The Athletic has the Canucks in his top 5.  The Habs came in at number 6 today.

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More Prospect Porn for our self gratification ;) 

 

Hockey Writers has us a #4!

 

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-farm-system-rankings/

 

4) Vancouver Canucks

Top Five Prospects: Thatcher Demko, Nils Hoglander, Quinn Hughes, Vasily Podkolzin, Jett Woo

Despite the graduation of Elias Pettersson, the Vancouver Canucks have one of the best prospect pools in the league. Padded by a solid draft, the Canucks could very well be on the verge of something great. And it is going to be fun to watch.

Quinn Hughes is arguably the best defensive prospect in the NHL (we’ll get to his main challenger shortly). He displayed his elite skill at the end of the season, exciting British Columbia in the process. He’s an elite skater who is an offensive threat with his creativity, shot, and ability to pass.

Hughes is the obvious top prospect right now, but forward Vasili Podkolzin might be right there with him. He has two years left in Russia, but the prospect has elite talent in his game. He’ll run you over and score while doing it.

Quinn Hughes Vancouver Canucks NHL farm systems Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks (Photo by John Russell/NHLI via Getty Images)

Sticking with the forwards, one player I was excited about in the 2019 NHL Draft was Nils Hoglander. He plays a similar game to Podkolzin, despite his smaller size. He’s fast, gets in the face of opponents, and can produce. The future Canucks offence will be getting under the rest of the NHL’s skin. Another prospect to watch is centreman Tyler Madden.

Back to the defence, coming in behind Hughes is Jett Woo. He can dance along the blue line and play physically when he needs to. Oh, and he can put up the points. The Canucks are very deep on the backend, with Olli Juolevi, Toni Utunen, and Jack Rathbone also looking like NHL defenders.

Related: Vancouver Canucks’ Top 10 Prospects

In net, the club is set up very nicely. Thatcher Demko and Michael DiPietro are two of the best goaltending prospects in the league and are already making their mark on the NHL. Demko has 10 games under his belt, and that number will go up this season as he looks like he’ll stick with the big club. DiPietro had one game, that he probably shouldn’t have played in.

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On 8/20/2019 at 8:10 PM, fecklund said:

Utica has a very good team, but Trent Cull is a knuckle dragging Tortorella wannabe.

That kind of approach with young players is the wrong one. 2 prospects have already up and left the team because of his BS. Not good. 

Demote Cull (he can coach the Defence)
Lure Burrows away from Laval. 

It's bad if Utica has such a cooch. Nepotism? 

People tend to forget that almost every great prospect doesn't go through Utica. Except for maybe goalies. 

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1 hour ago, Timråfan said:

It's bad if Utica has such a cooch. Nepotism? 

People tend to forget that almost every great prospect doesn't go through Utica. Except for maybe goalies. 

That’s just not true. Every prospect is unique, and while star players often go straight to the bigs there are lot of exceptions. I do agree that European prospects are often better off developing in Europe until they’re ready, but once again, everyone’s unique. 

 

Oh - and 2 of the last 3 Norris winners played a full season in the AHL ;-)

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