DonLever Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 According to this article, the Canada Line is a huge success with ever expanding ridership. Now it is too small to handle future growth. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-line-skytrain Anyone remember the debate going back to the 1970's and 1980's? Huge arguments over LRT and Skytrain, where to build it, Cambie or Arbutus. The debate raged for years before something was forced to be built because of the Olympics. Without the Olympics, we may still be arguing where to build a north south system. Even when it was being built, naysayers keep arguing there was not enough ridership to justify spending so much money. It would be dud, a White Elephant they said, no one will ride it after the Olympics. However, they were all wrong. Too bad no one at that time had the vision to build it bigger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, DonLever said: According to this article, the Canada Line is a huge success with ever expanding ridership. Now it is too small to handle future growth. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-line-skytrain Anyone remember the debate going back to the 1970's and 1980's? Huge arguments over LRT and Skytrain, where to build it, Cambie or Arbutus. The debate raged for years before something was forced to be built because of the Olympics. Without the Olympics, we may still be arguing where to build a north south system. Even when it was being built, naysayers keep arguing there was not enough ridership to justify spending so much money. It would be dud, a White Elephant they said, no one will ride it after the Olympics. However, they were all wrong. Too bad no one at that time had the vision to build it bigger. Calgary has the AGLRT and it’s a friggin’ joke. Sky train is way better for criminals to move about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Every time I come back to visit Vancouver I am surprised with how small the skytrain is in regards to the length of the cars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 its garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) The city should think about getting around to paying some of the businesses the construction affected. Edited August 20, 2019 by bishopshodan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, Alflives said: Calgary has the AGLRT and it’s a friggin’ joke. Sky train is way better for criminals to move about. Is that different from the C-Train? That's what it was called when I lived there. Funny thing, when I first moved there and heard about the C-Train, for a brief moment I thought they meant Sea-Train. There's no sea in Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) No government can see beyond the next election date and that's the issue. We need to start seeing governments planning for ten to twenty years later. Not 4. Calgary has it right with their c train expansion plans . They've plans to expand to numerous outlying areas with plans for triple the current ridership if it happens Edited August 20, 2019 by Warhippy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, bishopshodan said: The city should think about getting around to paying some of the businesses the construction affected. Its not the city who is on the hook for losses. It is Translink. There is an ongoing lawsuit between Cambie business owners and Translink. Some people were award money. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/cambie-merchants-awarded-damages-for-loss-of-business-during-canada-line-construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, DonLever said: Its not the city who is on the hook for losses. It is Translink. There is an ongoing lawsuit between Cambie business owners and Translink. Some people were award money. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/cambie-merchants-awarded-damages-for-loss-of-business-during-canada-line-construction Sorry, the wonderful Translink then Some fella was on the tv saying he hadn't got a dime after 10 years, despite the courts ruling in their favour. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, DonLever said: According to this article, the Canada Line is a huge success with ever expanding ridership. Now it is too small to handle future growth. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-line-skytrain Anyone remember the debate going back to the 1970's and 1980's? Huge arguments over LRT and Skytrain, where to build it, Cambie or Arbutus. The debate raged for years before something was forced to be built because of the Olympics. Without the Olympics, we may still be arguing where to build a north south system. Even when it was being built, naysayers keep arguing there was not enough ridership to justify spending so much money. It would be dud, a White Elephant they said, no one will ride it after the Olympics. However, they were all wrong. Too bad no one at that time had the vision to build it bigger. Could have told you that before they built it. You take projections of ridership 20-40 years ahead and build it for that type of traffic. It wasn't like YVR was taking less air-traffic. Typical Liberals wasting taxpayer money and not thinking ahead. Look at the cheese slicer highway barriers. In Stanley Park they are already falling apart. Probably will have to replace them and the opposition gets stuck with the problem the previous government made. Great plan. Muck up the province for 10+ years. Lose an election, then blame the opposition for all the mistakes your own party made. Get re-elected. Sick cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, bishopshodan said: The city should think about getting around to paying some of the businesses the construction affected. You mean all the developers that are getting rich, building high rises along the Cambie corridor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 "Translink... we build for yesterday!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: You mean all the developers that are getting rich, building high rises along the Cambie corridor? There was a retired merchant on the news saying he was still owed. Maybe they were playing old footage and that has been settled? I'm kinda salty because a business I run on Burrard lost tons during the corridor water project upgrade couple years ago. Probably why I knee jerk blamed the city instead of Translink on the delay of reimbursement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coda Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Why is there a capacity problem on a system that has computer-driven trains? Surely they can just run more trains of the same length. Why not a train every minute? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Lancaster said: "Translink... we build for yesterday!" Public 'Translink needs to expand service and not build for yesterday's needs' Translink 'we need more money to expand the system cause it's very successful every time we do' Public 'no you guys suck and can't deliver anything we want' TransLink 'shrug' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, inane said: Public 'Translink needs to expand service and not build for yesterday's needs' Translink 'we need more money to expand the system cause it's very successful every time we do' Public 'no you guys suck and can't deliver anything we want' TransLink 'shrug' I've always advocated for changes that would allow Translink to issue bonds or something to fund expansion. Way better than the usual "tax, tax, raise fares". But all levels of government and the board are too shortsighted and petty to really make any changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 1:56 PM, DonLever said: According to this article, the Canada Line is a huge success with ever expanding ridership. Now it is too small to handle future growth. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-line-skytrain Anyone remember the debate going back to the 1970's and 1980's? Huge arguments over LRT and Skytrain, where to build it, Cambie or Arbutus. The debate raged for years before something was forced to be built because of the Olympics. Without the Olympics, we may still be arguing where to build a north south system. Even when it was being built, naysayers keep arguing there was not enough ridership to justify spending so much money. It would be dud, a White Elephant they said, no one will ride it after the Olympics. However, they were all wrong. Too bad no one at that time had the vision to build it bigger. Heh, the Trans Canada Highway through the fraser valley has not been expanded in 50 years . ( Abby, Langley to the Whack . ) ....... Now that is a joke... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 10 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Heh, the Trans Canada Highway through the fraser valley has not been expanded in 50 years . ( Abby, Langley to the Whack . ) ....... Now that is a joke... Not exactly true. From Vancouver it's pretty much four lanes all the way to Langley, and there is a lot of work in progress on the stretch from 200th to 232nd. I've lived in the Valley for eight year now and the construction has been constant. As far as I am concerned, the worst stretch is between Mt. Lehman and 200th, in both directions, virtually every day but nuts on Fridays eastbound and Sundays westbound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 21 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Heh, the Trans Canada Highway through the fraser valley has not been expanded in 50 years . ( Abby, Langley to the Whack . ) ....... Now that is a joke... Who cares about those people! Well i guess should care a bit more than about Surrey.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I think the problem is all of the red tape that goes into making these lines. There's generally a lot that needs to go into things and only so much funding to go around; therefore, is it even possible to build it bigger without backlash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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