Dombrova22 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Absolutely atrocious contract. Don't care what anyone says. 65 points and 47 points, IS NOT WORTH 7M!!!! I can smell the lockout. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Too many teams got burned by bridge contracts and they've learned it's better to sign long term deals while a player is young. With the cap going up each year, bridge contracts are a bad idea. Depends on what kind of player you're dealing with. Though I agree that top dmen and forwards need to be locked up long term, players projecting to second pairing or middle six should have bridge contracts and shorter contracts all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iinatcc Posted September 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Odd. said: 47 points gets you that contract? Jesus christ. Or a 65 point player. It's not fair to judge a player based on his sophomore slump. Heck Nathan MacKinnon had a similar slump his second season and I think most would dream having MacKinnon on Keller's contract. If anything I think Keller is closer to a 65 pt player than a 47 pt one through out his career. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, cuporbust said: That's what timo myer just signed He would not have signed it if he wasn't gonna make 10mil that final year which I am pretty sure will make his qualifying offer 10mil. Gives him unbelievable negotiating power as a RFA. They qualify him he accepts the 10mil contract if they don't qualify him they have until July 1st to sign him or he's a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 55 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Keller had 14 goals in 82 games last year. Not comparable anymore at all. This is not good for us IMO. Boeser's camp will look at this and demand alot more for sure . Both were rookie of the year candidates. I'm sure both are seen as equal in value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, iinatcc said: Or a 65 point player. It's not fair to judge a player based on his sophomore slump. Heck Nathan MacKinnon had a similar slump his second season and I think most would dream having MacKinnon on Keller's contract. If anything I think Keller is closer to a 65 pt player than a 47 pt one through out his career. I'd rather have MacKinnon on MacKinnon's contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, aGENT said: I'd rather have MacKinnon on MacKinnon's contract True but a 90 pt player at 7 mil is still a steal Edited September 4, 2019 by iinatcc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Provost said: Well, Boeser is better than Keller. That puts a floor on what he would get for a max term deal. Seems like an overpayment to me, but hey that could be the market. Maybe more specifically a risk rather than overpayment. If you believe Keller as a rookie with lots of upside, it is fine as he is a Boeser comparable. If you think his sophomore season may indicate less upside, then it is a risky deal locking him up at that price tag for so many years. I don't think so, I don't think GM's look at comparables for RFA players as much as people think. Of course, agents will, but ultimately, RFA's don't have a lot of leverage, it's just a matter of how much backbonme a GM has. Right now, the two overpaying GM's are both young and inexperienced and are going to get themselves into hot water soon enough. JB is, I hope, smarter than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeridebc Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Please play in the desert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Or a 65 point player. It's not fair to judge a player based on his sophomore slump. Heck Nathan MacKinnon had a similar slump his second season and I think most would dream having MacKinnon on Keller's contract. If anything I think Keller is closer to a 65 pt player than a 47 pt one through out his career. Or not. Look at who he played with in the rookie season. And more importantly, look at his deployment, and who was assigned to cover him. If he's now moved into #1 role, I expect that 45pts is probably his norm. Edited September 4, 2019 by xereau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 OOowwwoowwwwooowwwwooooooooooooooooooooooo! Spoiler thats a bad contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 This will be good for coyotes down the road but I can see boeser getting a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, xereau said: Or not. Look at who he played with in the rookie season. And more importantly, look at his deployment, and who was assigned to cover him. If he's now moved into #1 role, I expect that 45pts is probably his norm. What’s the difference? Domi for Gally? I don’t see that being a huge deal for Keller’s sake as Domi wasn’t doing a helluva lot in the desert anyway. Arizona has Phildo now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, stawns said: I don't think so, I don't think GM's look at comparables for RFA players as much as people think. Of course, agents will, but ultimately, RFA's don't have a lot of leverage, it's just a matter of how much backbonme a GM has. Right now, the two overpaying GM's are both young and inexperienced and are going to get themselves into hot water soon enough. JB is, I hope, smarter than that. Benning mentioned in an interview that both sides had comparables they brought to the table. Benning mentioned Meier if I recall, which when you understand how his contract works is a bit more than just he took 4 years at 6mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Honestly I blame TO for this and that stupid Nylander contract. Here we go, if we get Boeser at a decent rate I’ll be surprised 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Both were rookie of the year candidates. I'm sure both are seen as equal in value. Ummm, no they are not . U dont get signed for what u projected to be at one point , u get signed for what you have been producing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Of course the media loves the signing. Not saying good or bad contract but Arizona and Chayka are one of the media darlings. I get so tired of the "good move by Chayka" crap. The guy can do no wrong, but really the team is still a big question mark. JB on the other hand gets the hairy eyeball from the media with every move he makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Not good for us as a comparable for Brock if Brock wants the same length of contract. Put it to this way. Would you trade Brock for Keller? Nope. Brock is worth more IMHO. Chayka is a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Wanless said: Depends on what kind of player you're dealing with. Though I agree that top dmen and forwards need to be locked up long term, players projecting to second pairing or middle six should have bridge contracts and shorter contracts all together. We might see a few, although it would be a bad deal for the teams, who'll just have to pony up even more cash for older players in a couple years. Especially if teams aren't willing to do 4-5 years and players aren't willing to do 6+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 A 99 pt player on a 6.3 million dollar deal is much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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