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1 hour ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

The problem with Edler which I saw in the preseason, instead of trying to use Pettersson or Brock more he decided to just throw it on the net, now don't get me wrong it's not a bad thing to do that, but when you do it 3 or 4 times in a row and still don't pass it to your better shooters then that's a problem. It does seem Edler is second guessing himself to make the pass to either one, or he's just to slow to react anymore, so having a young guy in Hughes who already has shown his passing abilities it really makes sense to have the more agile quicker younger player there imo.

 

And people can't really use the excuse that Edlers experience and leadership is the backbone on that PP so things don't go wrong, would be a complete lie because I see it every year he ALWAYS gets burned by the other teams forward and can never catch him instead just tries to slash and hook him because he can't keep up and then draws a penalty there goes the PP, get a younger player who's quicker in decisions and speed, who can cut down on mistakes and even catch a player after a mistake.

Devils advocate - maybe didn’t want to hurt anyone in front of the net on his team with a booming slapper....

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2 minutes ago, Wayne Jetski said:

Devils advocate - maybe didn’t want to hurt anyone in front of the net on his team with a booming slapper....

Jiri Slegr II. ?

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1 minute ago, gameburn said:

That is kind of suggestive lol. 

Do you think his injury last year is an issue, or is it just that the team has more top-9 guys now, and he's out of luck?

He says he's fully healed and he has been playing - even taking and throwing hits.  

 

They have players who fit better.  Roussel is also coming back.  There's just no spot for him re style of play and role.  

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2 hours ago, xereau said:

 

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I think he is flaunting to Green that he doesn’t have to do anything because he is a 6M man. Ownership should just bite the bullet and drop him to Utica. He is literally the most overpaid pile of poo in the NHL.

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1 hour ago, Junkyard Dog said:

 

Gaudette has been worse than Sutter in his own zone or on the dot during the preseason. IMO he has been our worse C in his own zone. The idea is to eliminate both those factors by having to play him on the wing which would give him way more opportunity and freedom offensively rather then being relegated to a checking role (since the top 2 lines will get the majority of the offensive ice time) that he doesn't look quite ready for which much rather suits Sutter. If we want to develop him that way then there's another reason to throw him in Utica in order to work on his overall game on top of the asset management.

 

If he makes the team it should be as a top 6 winger because he has beat out guys for a top 6 wing role. Also he seems to be practicing the wing rn so perhaps management sees the potential at wing. I sure do.

 

I like Gaudette on the wing for a season.  Gaudette Sutter Baer?  

 

Gaudette gets two experienced guys and can learn from Sutter how to be a center in the league.  

 

This team cannot overlook a player with the nose for the net.  

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54 minutes ago, Blömqvist said:

 

I know what you're saying, but Edler shooting instead of passing is similar to the idea of football teams continuing to run the football despite getting very little yardage -- by respecting the run it opens up the passing game. Same thing for hockey, if Tanev was on the first unit powerplay you know he's gonna pass it off to Boeser/Pettersson all the time, so the opposing PK unit would have those passing lanes covered. Edler, on the other hand, has a respectable shot. With Ferland or Miller in front of the net causing havoc and pouncing on rebounds, having a defenseman that has a respectable shot and who can get it through the first layer of defenders will add another threat to the offense, should BB6 and EP40 be covered.

 

The same reason is why I'm excited for Juolevi once he makes the big club and is manning the point on the powerplay. Juolevi v that "seeing eye" wrister from the point, the mobility to walk the blue line and open up passing lanes, and a deceptive no look tape-to-tape pass.

In yesterday's AHL preseason game, Juolevi did in fact shoot it on net, and Gadjovich tipped it in. Juolevi is criminally underrated.

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Maybe if Benning cleared up some bottom 6 mess by Christmas we could make a 4th line of :

Rousell Beagle Sutter  

and make a useful 3rd line around Gaudette. 

I like the top 9 , bottom 3 concept.

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22 hours ago, hammertime said:

I think you're not wrong but you're putting and awful lot of pressure on Goldobin and Virtanen here. I'd be for waiting a month or so before putting them into the deep end or the pool. 

 

Virtanen is sucking wind and out of shape asking him to keep up w Miller and Pearson might be wiser 20 games into the season than it would be on game one. 

 

Goldobin is a Gambler. I think should be given the opportunity but probably start him on your third line and if the chips start rolling in then reward him with an opportunity with Pete. Flip side if he cant hang w Miller Pearson I think we have seen enough.

I think Goldobin are a bit cocky so I believe he think that it's his right linemates. So I think he will do fine as long as the post doesn't stop him. 

If he starts in a third line he has to do more defensively and it will not be so good. 

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1 hour ago, grandmaster said:

:picard:

 

I think he is flaunting to Green that he doesn’t have to do anything because he is a 6M man. Ownership should just bite the bullet and drop him to Utica. He is literally the most overpaid pile of poo in the NHL.

Seabrook, Alzner, Lucic, Neal, Okposo there is a fee players that are a worse investment than Loui

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On 9/25/2019 at 10:06 AM, Virtanen#18 said:

 

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25 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Seabrook, Alzner, Lucic, Neal, Okposo there is a fee players that are a worse investment than Loui

Almost every team has an anchor signing

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3 hours ago, Viper007 said:

The Canucks went 4-7 on the PP the game Edler was on this unit.  What game were you watching?

Did you actually watch any of the games or just go by stats.....

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2 hours ago, Blömqvist said:

 

I know what you're saying, but Edler shooting instead of passing is similar to the idea of football teams continuing to run the football despite getting very little yardage -- by respecting the run it opens up the passing game. Same thing for hockey, if Tanev was on the first unit powerplay you know he's gonna pass it off to Boeser/Pettersson all the time, so the opposing PK unit would have those passing lanes covered. Edler, on the other hand, has a respectable shot. With Ferland or Miller in front of the net causing havoc and pouncing on rebounds, having a defenseman that has a respectable shot and who can get it through the first layer of defenders will add another threat to the offense, should BB6 and EP40 be covered.

 

The same reason is why I'm excited for Juolevi once he makes the big club and is manning the point on the powerplay. Juolevi has that "seeing eye" wrister from the point, the mobility to walk the blue line and open up passing lanes, and a deceptive no look tape-to-tape pass.

So taking 4 shots in a row and not bothering to pass it to an open Brock or Elias then having the puck leave the zone and create a line change, when they could of spent more time in the offensive zone with the top PP if Edler just passed it instead, is like football you say? LOL WHAT? 

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7 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

Did you actually watch any of the games or just go by stats.....

Yes ... I watched the game, and the PP went 4 for 7.  Edler got 4 points that game .... 1 Goal, 3 assists.  I think he played well on the PP that game.  You can't just pass all the time, you have to be a threat to shoot also, or the PK will just cheat on either side knowing that you won't shoot.  You're just being biased on what Edler has done in the past.  That game the PP was on fire, and if you can't see that, you might want to get your eyes checked.

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Just now, Viper007 said:

Yes ... I watched the game, and the PP went 4 for 7.  Edler got 4 points that game .... 1 Goal, 3 assists.  I think he played well on the PP that game.  You can't just pass all the time, you have to be a threat to shoot also, or the PK will just cheat on either side knowing that you won't shoot.  You're just being biased on what Edler has done in the past.  That game the PP was on fire, and if you can't see that, you might want to get your eyes checked.

If you can't seem to see Edlers flaws and believe all because of a pre season because he got 4 points in the game that he's going to be a superstar now, then I would suggest that you go check out clearly contacts and grab a new pair of glasses, then you can see it more clearly again this year.

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Just now, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

If you can't seem to see Edlers flaws and believe all because of a pre season because he got 4 points in the game that he's going to be a superstar now, then I would suggest that you go check out clearly contacts and grab a new pair of glasses, then you can see it more clearly again this year.

You posted based on the preseason, and that unit had played only 1 game.  You're the one changing the criteria now.

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I'll throw this last one out there, I find it hilarious how many posters were on Edlers case last year and not passing it to Brock on the PP, many posters complained about Edler and being slow and always drawing penalties because he can't catch the man beating him anymore. Then Edler re-signs for more money and everyone praises it as this great contract, so people were on his case last year and now he makes more money and what people randomly believe he's getting better then last year then now... Lol okay good luck with that :lol:

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4 hours ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

The problem with Edler which I saw in the preseason, instead of trying to use Pettersson or Brock more he decided to just throw it on the net, now don't get me wrong it's not a bad thing to do that, but when you do it 3 or 4 times in a row and still don't pass it to your better shooters then that's a problem. It does seem Edler is second guessing himself to make the pass to either one, or he's just to slow to react anymore, so having a young guy in Hughes who already has shown his passing abilities it really makes sense to have the more agile quicker younger player there imo.

 

And people can't really use the excuse that Edlers experience and leadership is the backbone on that PP so things don't go wrong, would be a complete lie because I see it every year he ALWAYS gets burned by the other teams forward and can never catch him instead just tries to slash and hook him because he can't keep up and then draws a penalty there goes the PP, get a younger player who's quicker in decisions and speed, who can cut down on mistakes and even catch a player after a mistake.

 

3 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

If you can't seem to see Edlers flaws and believe all because of a pre season because he got 4 points in the game that he's going to be a superstar now, then I would suggest that you go check out clearly contacts and grab a new pair of glasses, then you can see it more clearly again this year.

I never said he was going to be a superstar.  I just said that the PP went 4 for 7 which is fact.  I'm sure eventually Hughes will be a better fit on the PP1, but you can't blame the Canucks for going with that unit first and trying it out, considering it worked pretty well.

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