48MPHSlapShot Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said: Oh so Baertschi can improve at 26 and Leivo can't? One of the reasons Leivo didn't come in sooner was the Leafs poor development system. It's no surprise to anyone that team stockpiled 36 added draft picks that thus far has only returned them 3 NHL players so far. If Baer doesn't improve, he's still a quality middle 6 player. If Leivo doesn't improve, he's still a fringe NHLer. And I'm sorry, but outside of 1st rd picks how many players have we developed in the last decade? One? But I'm sure dropping Baertschi down to Utica to syphon top six minutes away from our developing prospects will help change that trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, longsuffering said: Remind me how we ended up with him? and looking at his history he is not a goal scorer so how does he end up on a choice line with Horvat? Sorry I don't know more about this.... he seems such a nobody to be given a prime spot in the line-up. Is there more to him thna looks on the record? He’s more established than Sven believe it or not. He’s a bigger body, showed he can hang and perform in the playoffs. Can slot in with skilled players (Jeff Carter, Kopitar, Toffoli). I think he’s a great value considering we only had to give up Gudbranson for him. He looked real comfy with Bo at the end of last season too. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Can see St Louis picking him up after waiving Pouliot...He is better than Poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pete M said: Can see St Louis picking him up after waiving Pouliot...He is better than Poo I'll miss the bulldog, always inspirational seeing the effect he put forth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the harry Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 To be honest, I don't think that Baertschi had a fair chance to make the team this camp. The decision was made long before, Benning said, he tried to move him during the summer. I think they will miss his skills on the second line, especially Bo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckYa Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, Pete M said: Can see St Louis picking him up after waiving Pouliot...He is better than Poo Jets? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: If Baer doesn't improve, he's still a quality middle 6 player. If Leivo doesn't improve, he's still a fringe NHLer. And I'm sorry, but outside of 1st rd picks how many players have we developed in the last decade? One? But I'm sure dropping Baertschi down to Utica to syphon top six minutes away from our developing prospects will help change that trend. Just since Benning’s arrival Demko Tryamkin Gaudette Brisebois on the verge of making the next step Hutton drafted by Gillis developed during Benning’s tenure. Stecher as a college FA, Rafferty and Teves looking promising so far Rafferty being further ahead. Edited October 1, 2019 by canuck73_3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howisthishappening Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Look at the waiver wire this year: Luke schenn Gagner Biega Baer Goldobin So many recent canucks being waived by everyone, shows how bad canucks are at picking players eh. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post .Naslund Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, NucksinNorway said: As much as I dislike Baertschi being waived, I find it interesting people talking about how well he performs when not injured. Everybody wants sutter and tanev gone because they only play half a season and say it's wasted cap space. Isn't that a bit hypocritical? Tanev is arguably more valuable when healthy. And maybe the same could be said about Sutter. People just want to complain, its a Vancouverite thing. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spook007 Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, .Naslund said: People just want to complain, its a Vancouverite thing. Trust me, when I say, its not just a Vancouver thing...its universal... 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 lol we kept schaller over baertschi.. this team is gonna struggle for goals outside of the top line. i'm not sold on the resurgence of pearson from last year.. there's a reason LA and Pittsburgh got rid of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spook007 Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 hours ago, aGENT said: Eriksson's in the press box according to today's practice lines with Roussel still to return at some point. He's a sacrificial lamb barring further injuries/trades IMO. Not exactly a role I'd envision for Baer... Schaller gives them another body to PK and better fits a bottom 6 role until Roussel gets back. Ferland, Pearson and Miller acquisitions bumped him out of the top 6. He requires top 6 usage top produce, wouldn't get that in the bottom 6 and doesn't suit a bottom 6 role. This is the main reason.... It was always going to be a fight between Baer and Pearson. In most of the line ups suggested by all posters, there were 2 issues A: whom of the two were going on the 2nd line and and who was on the 3rd, and B: where to play Virtanen.... The chemistry/production by the Horvat/Pearson combination won, and since Baer doesn't kill pens and doesn't have his strength as a checker, he is really the odd man out. Like Baer, always have, but do see the reasons in keeping Eriksson/Schaller up.... Although i can't wait to see the back of both, Schaller in particular...Guess there is always hope Schaller wakes up from hibernation, and start playing like he did in Boston. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, stawns said: Miller, that's not even a fair comparable, Miller was one of the top 3 players in pre-season. I'm not sure Pearson outplayed him though Pearsons advantage is he can move to 3rd or even 4th line assignment, if he doesn't click like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Alflives said: Already paid Loui 5 of the 6 million for this coming season. JB said last year that the talk about sending Gagner down was the worst conversation he had with Aquilini. Well so it should be... "Eh boss I just bought this this for 9 mill but I don't really like it, so I'm gonna dump it again..." It doesn't go on the plus side, when evaluating performance prior to contract extension. Luckily JB has done well in other parts, and FA seems to have bought into, what JB's selling.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 50 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: lol we kept schaller over baertschi.. this team is gonna struggle for goals outside of the top line. i'm not sold on the resurgence of pearson from last year.. there's a reason LA and Pittsburgh got rid of him. As the great Jared McCann once said... It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 When it comes to the playoffs I'd rather have Pearson over Baer. NHL playoff xp, size, grit. Playoff scoring. We are a more playoff like team now. Need size and skill to win. We got both 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 If ol bearcheese was any good he woulda potted 50 with the Sedins ok? #nuffsaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rush17 said: When it comes to the playoffs I'd rather have Pearson over Baer. NHL playoff xp, size, grit. Playoff scoring. We are a more playoff like team now. Need size and skill to win. We got both Despite winning the Cup with a heavy team Doug Armstrong this summer said he still thinks that the league is going towards skills and quick puck movement. He thinks size will stay true on D though. Not sure it's really possible to tell who on the team are true playoff performers. The Wild made all those series of trades because they were stuck in no man's land - their core young players were good in the regular season but struggled to produce in the post-season. Who is more productive in the post-season - is it the guy that has the smarts and the hands to get to the net for a quick goal or the big guy who fights for position but might not quite have the finishing touch. It's also the mental pressure and some guys just don't do well in that kind of environment. Scheifele was talking of how it's such a different level of mental intensity. Pearson was 0.5 in the playoffs in his rookie season at 21 but had only 3pts in 9 games since - none last time. Ferland has 3pts in 20 playoff games - 1 assist in 7 games with Carolina. Miller has 3 goals (26pts) in 63 playoff games. Edited October 1, 2019 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said: But Baertschi played better than Eriksson & Schaller in the pre-season. He played better than Eriksson & Schaller last year. He's played better than Eriksson since Loui signed. If anything one of these guys deserve to be sent down. Loui's legs are shot & Schaller's brought nothing. Sven can actually score goals. What happens if Pearson struggles? Loui in the top 6 again? jobs are earned in practice and the gym, not in preseason games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: Does it not make more sense to you infer that JB did not want that conversation because in it he admitted to screwing up the contract??? And if JB had to have another similar conversation with Aqua that JB would AGAIN have to admit he made an even bigger screw up in signing Loui? I think the entire hockey world knows that JB blew it on that signing, I’m sure the guy that has someone write the cheque’s for him is smart enough to already know this, no admission required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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