AK_19 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: If that's the case they can have anyone not named Bo, Petey, Boeser, Hughes or Podkolzin. Slavin or Pesce would make our blueline go from meh to pretty good. This definitely puts some of their D on the block you'd imagine. Bean or Fleury possibly. Maybe they want to move Hamilton, they have Pesce and Faulk as top 4 RD. Not sure Fleury even has a ton of value anymore. Gotta imagine something has to give with all their D. Bean looks like he should be pushing for a NHL spot this season. You're overvaluing Podkolzin. If they want him for Pasce/Slavin (drafting a top 4 D for a 10th pick would generally be fantastic), you take that deal and run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) Re: resulting comparisons to Myers. Hindsight is 20/20. I highly doubt Gardiner would have signed a 6x5 deal on July 1. He clearly overplayed his hand and good on the Hurricanes for snapping him up. Not relevant with respect to the Canucks' summer timeline IMO. Edited September 6, 2019 by 5nothincanucksohno 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Can someone please do a comparison between him and Meyers so I feel better about our signing? Sure, here goes: https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/traikos-jake-gardiner-crumbles-again-for-maple-leafs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, AK_19 said: You're overvaluing Podkolzin. If they want him for Pasce/Slavin (drafting a top 4 D for a 10th pick would generally be fantastic), you take that deal and run. Nah, I am perfectly valuing Pod. He's a stud. From what I hear all the Duncan Keith's are in the 2nd round anyway. With that said Slavin and Pesce were drafted in the 4th and 3rd rounds respectively. I am indeed pretty high on Pod. I think when Pod does reach his potential he'll be worth more than Pesce and Slavin. He's got all the tools to be a top 10 player in this league if he can put it all together. Slavin and Pesce are good but I wouldn't move Pod for either of them. His potential is just too damn high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pears Posted September 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: Canes signing Gardiner for nearly 2 million less than we did Myers? You hate to see it. RD, and good ones, are more valuable than LD. You hate to see it. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Imagine still believing in the myth that RD deserve to be compensated more than LD because of handedness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: Imagine still believing in the myth that RD deserve to be compensated more than LD because of handedness. supply and demand dictates the market value 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) This is a great signing for the Canes. The posters ITT who keep saying it's not a good addition need to lay off the BC bud. 50pt D for 4 milli. Nice signing Edited September 6, 2019 by CanuckGAME 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 He is a pretty good hockey player. That is a good deal and the leafs are probably not happy they couldn’t have him for 4M. He had a couple bad brain farts at very bad times but is a really solid signing. He is a better player than the two game seven mistakes he made. Wonder who the canes are trading for. Could he be going back to leafs in a package for double flamingo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Imagine still believing that GMs let supply and demand dictate how they run teams. We literally signed a LD to play the right side. Gardiner + Benn for $6.05 AVV > Myers and Benn for $8 AAV. This is not a slight against Myers, this is simply just sense. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Alain Vigneault said: Imagine still believing that GMs let supply and demand dictate how they run teams. We literally signed a LD to play the right side. Gardiner + Benn for $6.05 AVV > Myers and Benn for $8 AAV. This is not a slight against Myers, this is simply just sense. If the goal is to lose to Boston in game 7 again, I agree Gardiner and Benn would be the better duo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: If the goal is to lose to Boston in game 7 again, I agree Gardiner and Benn would be the better duo. Pretty sure we already managed that on our own without either of those guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcheeze86 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Based on his back injury goodluck with that carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 so happy for the Hurricanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted September 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: Pretty sure we already managed that on our own without either of those guys. He doesn't bring anything other players in the system already bring. Want a offensive minded d-man that is weak defensively. That's Hughes. He isn't better than Edler and doesn't fill that bottom pair spot better than Benn. On the right side we have Tanev and Stecher and that's it. So no, Gardiner and Benn is not better than Myers and Benn. And we had to pay more to get Myers cause teams actually wanted him. You have to be awfully ignorant to think that the market isn't dictated by supply and demand. Lots of teams wanted Myers, cause he's flat out better and more useful than Gardiner. Feel free to cry about money you aren't spending though. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanisleryan Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Provost said: Why not... neither Myers or Gardiner are great defensive shut down kind of guys and have similar defensive brain cramp issues. Gardiner is better offensively. He just became the whipping boy in Toronto because they wanted too much out of him... just like we trash Edler because we want him to be Matthias Ohlund. Two million less and shorter term makes the Gardiner signing really solid.... whereas most hockey people suggest we overpaid both in term and dollars for Myers. (EDIT: TO be clear, I am not against the Myers signing at all. We couldn't have afforded to not change our defence and waiting to see what the market was would have been too risky on our part.. we just paid a premium for that certainty) I suspect next July 1st will be a lot quieter. Teams will be less likely to blow all their cash right away given the change that’s happening with salary structure and demands by young RFAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanisleryan Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: He is a pretty good hockey player. That is a good deal and the leafs are probably not happy they couldn’t have him for 4M. He had a couple bad brain farts at very bad times but is a really solid signing. He is a better player than the two game seven mistakes he made. Wonder who the canes are trading for. Could he be going back to leafs in a package for double flamingo? I bet Laine is being traded to the Canes for a package. Reunite Laine and Aho....watch them trade for Poolparty too.....damn I’m half joking but this might actually be a good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) Great signing by Don Waddell. Cap and term both very good. Gardiner is a very good offensive Dman. Just ended up being the whipping boy in Toronto. He's prone to making a mistake here and there but very good puck mover and on offense. Good skater. I don't think Canes are trading a Dman out. They just became a deeper team hoping to make a run in playoffs. Edited September 6, 2019 by WHL rocks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: They clearly want to trade Slavin or Pesce. Benning? yeah you might be on to something, maybe not with us but its possible. Although they now have 4 LHD and 4 RHD so maybe this is them "loading up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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