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7 hours ago, Pears said:

I didn’t see anything from the SNC Lavalin investigations that linked Trudeau with terrorists so if you have actual facts to back up your claims, by all means post them. 

You're still waiting then I guess eh.

 

I think you'll be waiting a long while for anything qualifying as an answer from him

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1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

it seems to be breaking down that people that were still in diapers at the time it happened are the most offended by this. 

The way the majority of them act, you'd think they were still in diapers.

1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

But its hard to deny the humorous side of this as well, I mean you couldn't come up with anything better for Trudeau. But I also feel for him a bit, being embarrassed globally has to be rough. 

Totally. For those who have suffered under actual discrimination and have been openly mocked about their appearance, I understand how these pictures could legitimately trigger them, but I'm thinking that the average Canadian, of whom Sunny Khurana is one, doesn't see this as the huge scandal that so many would like this to be.

 

It could be construed as insensitive and tone deaf to the political climate, but I don't think the intent was to mock a particular race.

1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

If this is the end of his run you can't say that it hasn't been interesting. 

It has been, and I don't think it's over.

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8 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

You're still waiting then I guess eh.

 

I think you'll be waiting a long while for anything qualifying as an answer from him

If you don't know why SnC is being investigated and don't see how Trudeau and his family are linked to them then I don't feel need to explain what was in the news. Trudeau was protecting SnC who was giving money to gadaffi. That's being linked to extremists and terrorists

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2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

The way the majority of them act, you'd think they were still in diapers.

its curious, I do wonder why gen z in particular seems so rigid and unforgiving when it comes to past discretions.

 

People &^@# up, its your intent at the time and how you make up for it that matters most of the time. 

 

Trudeau is almost growing up in front of our in some ways, he clearly was a privileged goofball in his younger years and now its catching up to him. He chose to dress up as much as possible to sell raffle tickets at a school party in 2001. Do we really want to switch to the CPC over that? Does it make May or Singh better candidates? 

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2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

its curious, I do wonder why gen z in particular seems so rigid and unforgiving when it comes to past discretions.

I'd say the millennials are far more rigid than gen Z, and that gen X is equally self-righteous. To me, these folks seemingly need to assume some sort of control over the world around them, when in actual fact, they have very little control. The societal poison that social media is gives everyone their own personal soapbox where they can postulate and present the impervious and perfect version of themselves for others to learn from.

2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

People &^@# up, its your intent at the time and how you make up for it that matters most of the time. 

You'd be hard pressed to get many to admit to screwing up in life. As previously mentioned, social media for many is essential to who they are, and pathetically part of what defines them. They wouldn't dare let anyone see anything but their spotless soul.

2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Trudeau is almost growing up in front of our in some ways, he clearly was a privileged goofball in his younger years and now its catching up to him. He chose to dress up as much as possible to sell raffle tickets at a school party in 2001. Do we really want to switch to the CPC over that? Does it make May or Singh better candidates? 

Trudeau is part of the self-righteous crowd, as well. His posturing is nauseating at times, but he's also kept the economy steady during a tumultuous time. Of all the choices to make politically this fall, he's still the front runner to run the country, when all things (not just the sensationalistic) are concerned.

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10 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

its curious, I do wonder why gen z in particular seems so rigid and unforgiving when it comes to past discretions.

Because gen Z and the millennials aren't just going to let the past generations who were ignorant and oppressive gaslight an entire generation and put the sole responsibility of fixing the world the baby boomers and gen x ignorantly and willingly destroyed.

 

I am not to blame for the past transgressions of ignorant old money hungry men who gave white males a bad name at the cost of our economy and minorities.

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24 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Did you come to this conclusion after studying the symbols on a dollar bill? maybe some string and news clippings? 

Use Google yourself.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/torontosun.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-ties-between-liberals-and-snc-lavalin-go-way-back/amp

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/5005123/timeline-snc-lavalin-controversy/amp/

 

For the speds

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3 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said:

you as well. Maybe you can explain how your web of thoughts on this can reconcile the fact that most of the Libya bribe money was given while Harper was in power. 

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15 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said:

Because gen Z and the millennials aren't just going to let the past generations who were ignorant and oppressive gaslight an entire generation and put the sole responsibility of fixing the world the baby boomers and gen x ignorantly and willingly destroyed.

 

I am not to blame for the past transgressions of ignorant old money hungry men who gave white males a bad name at the cost of our economy and minorities.

the next generation inherits the world, thats sort of how it works. 

 

You seem very hung up on the concept of blame. 

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13 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

I'd say the millennials are far more rigid than gen Z, and that gen X is equally self-righteous. To me, these folks seemingly need to assume some sort of control over the world around them, when in actual fact, they have very little control. The societal poison that social media is gives everyone their own personal soapbox where they can postulate and present the impervious and perfect version of themselves for others to learn from.

You'd be hard pressed to get many to admit to screwing up in life. As previously mentioned, social media for many is essential to who they are, and pathetically part of what defines them. They wouldn't dare let anyone see anything but their spotless soul.

Trudeau is part of the self-righteous crowd, as well. His posturing is nauseating at times, but he's also kept the economy steady during a tumultuous time. Of all the choices to make politically this fall, he's still the front runner to run the country, when all things (not just the sensationalistic) are concerned.

z in particular has been the most documented and surveilled generation in human history. I bet you a coke a high % of these kids have videos of themselves being born to every other things thats ever happened to them available on their phones. I wonder if this also makes them the most judgmental generation ever as well? just posing the question. 

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7 hours ago, Duodenum said:

In America they give all their money to rich people and call it capitalism (but it's really just socialism for the rich and capitalism for everyone else). 

 

People who had their lives destroyed end up raising unsuccessful children, who'd have thunk it? Suppress a people and it'll be seen for generations. You can't just sprinkle some money dust and, poof, there goes a whole era of suppression out the window lol. These programs are there to try and pull up a population that was put down for so long. 

 

20+% of indigenous adults went to those residential schools. 40+% aged 60 or older. The last of those garbage schools was closed in 1996. I would assume you know what went down at these schools and then the link between abuse and drug use. You think the children of those drug users should be rocket scientists because they get some special scholarships :lol:

 

That's just stupid man.

You still haven't pointed out a form of modern systemic oppression. The tools are there to succeed. They just aren't being used. 

 

The best revenge would be to use those tools to get ahead and abuse them to get free education and start funneling money from our society into theirs.

 

I have seen the racism first hand, from both sides. I worked on Boys Rd Reservation in Duncan, where the Chief lives in a mansion and his people live in shacks. Where the First Nations attempted to burn one of their own alive in his home because he worked while living on the rez. An apple they called him, Red on the outside white on the in. They then attacked myself and my boss while we were doing repairs to his home because, and I quote "You don't belong on this land, whitey".

 

So I'm sorry if Im not crying for these people who are stuck in a culture rut. I am not to blame for residential schools or any of the BS that was implemented before I was born. The tools are there to succeed and its up to you how your life turns out ultimately. If my Native friends can turn out all right and finicially successful with all the hurdles they faced in life, then so can the rest of the majority. There are the exceptions, but that doesnt make them the rule.

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8 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

the next generation inherits the world, thats sort of how it works. 

 

You seem very hung up on the concept of blame. 

Because thats what this culture is all about. Blame everyone else for your problems. Its cool to say its all white peoples fault that First Nations incurred all those atrocities. But hey, don't generalize all the Natives by saying they arent using the tools in front of them.

 

You're basically saying "Hey we f***ed up and let our governments do all this stuff, but its up to you to fix it all, and the housing market, and inflation... And over fishing, and.... And... And its your fault by the way, you should feel responsible. Oh and you have this invisible privilege that you can't use."

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3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

no it just blows your little conspiracy theory. 

"Liberals and SnC have been linked finacially for decades"

 

"Ya but they gave them money and made these bribes to Libya when Harper was in power, so its the conservatives fault"

 

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Just now, 5Fivehole0 said:

Because thats what this culture is all about. Blame everyone else for your problems. Its cool to say its all white peoples fault that First Nations incurred all those atrocities. But hey, don't generalize all the Natives by saying they arent using the tools in front of them.

 

You're basically saying "Hey we f***ed up and let our governments do all this stuff, but its up to you to fix it all, and the housing market, and inflation... And over fishing, and.... And... And its your fault by the way, you should feel responsible. Oh and you have this invisible privilege that you can't use."

you sound like a fairly young person, who's seen a few things but doesn't really understand what he saw. 

 

Why do you think that because the laws don't openly discriminate anymore (which is a very new thing) that there would be a corresponding instant change in society or culture? you don't seem to realize that cultures don't shift overnight as if clicking on a new app. You also don't seem to realize that people are still living under conditions directly lined to systemic discrimination. Just in the last coulee of years has there been any movement on clean water supplies e.g. You seem to be under the impression that there should be instantaneous change. 

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