JM_ Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: Because thats what this culture is all about. Blame everyone else for your problems. Its cool to say its all white peoples fault that First Nations incurred all those atrocities. But hey, don't generalize all the Natives by saying they arent using the tools in front of them. You're basically saying "Hey we f***ed up and let our governments do all this stuff, but its up to you to fix it all, and the housing market, and inflation... And over fishing, and.... And... And its your fault by the way, you should feel responsible. Oh and you have this invisible privilege that you can't use." grow up kiddo, you are responsible for your future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: z in particular has been the most documented and surveilled generation in human history. I bet you a coke a high % of these kids have videos of themselves being born to every other things thats ever happened to them available on their phones. I wonder if this also makes them the most judgmental generation ever as well? just posing the question. Gen z is supposedly children aging from 2 to 19, according to my "research", so I don't personally think that they're all that judgey. I think it's the millennials and X who are the most self righteous, as many of them are already in university. They've clearly been extremely overexposed to social media and all of it's emptiness. My sons are all within that age range and are very curious about all sorts of things, and ask questions based more so on that than an ideology. They ask questions, and I try to give them as well rounded information as possible. When I first read the post, I thought you wanted to bet me a coke high. Hahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: Gen z is supposedly children aging from 2 to 19, according to my "research", so I don't personally think that they're all that judgey. I think it's the millennials and X who are the most self righteous, as many of them are already in university. They've clearly been extremely overexposed to social media and all of it's emptiness. My sons are all within that age range and are very curious about all sorts of things, and ask questions based more so on that than an ideology. They ask questions, and I try to give them as well rounded information as possible. When I first read the post, I thought you wanted to bet me a coke high. Hahahaha! I'm putting the last couple of years of university into the "z" category, maybe they are still millennial? either way i'm thinking that sort of 18-24 range is very unforgiving. Maybe its the lack of real life experience and live streaming of every second of their lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: you sound like a fairly young person, who's seen a few things but doesn't really understand what he saw. Why do you think that because the laws don't openly discriminate anymore (which is a very new thing) that there would be a corresponding instant change in society or culture? you don't seem to realize that cultures don't shift overnight as if clicking on a new app. You also don't seem to realize that people are still living under conditions directly lined to systemic discrimination. Just in the last coulee of years has there been any movement on clean water supplies e.g. You seem to be under the impression that there should be instantaneous change. Why didn't the First Nations use that money to build infrastructure? Why didn't they lease out their lands and let white people build on it and then take the land back with the infrastructure already built? Why don't they monetize their lands and use that money to provide water to their people. Take their lives into their own and hands and accept that you are responsible for you and your outcome. Dont put your life in the hands of someone else, especially your oppressors. Also, don't continue to hate those who had nothing to do with said oppression and have voted for change in your favour. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: grow up kiddo, you are responsible for your future. Exactly, and I took mine into my own hands despite my struggles in life. I've lived on my own since I was 16 and had alcoholic and drug addicted parents. So ya, I don't sympathize, but I have empathy to these people. Sometimes the truth is crass and hurtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I'm putting the last couple of years of university into the "z" category, maybe they are still millennial? either way i'm thinking that sort of 18-24 range is very unforgiving. Maybe its the lack of real life experience and live streaming of every second of their lives. It is the lack of real life experience and the conflation of their self-worth and ego by their parents as well. Being told repeatedly that "you're special" and never being disciplined when you do something wrong as a child has adverse effects as one gets older. There's also a belief that because this generation hasn't experienced a central conflict that's tangible, many of those in the generation manufacture ones instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: It is the lack of real life experience and the conflation of their self-worth and ego by their parents as well. Being told repeatedly that "you're special" and never being disciplined when you do something wrong as a child has adverse effects as one gets older. There's also a belief that because this generation hasn't experienced a central conflict that's tangible, many of those in the generation manufacture ones instead. No. It's seeing the world for what it is. A huge mess that gen x and the baby boomers created. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, 5Fivehole0 said: No. It's seeing the world for what it is. A huge mess that gen x and the baby boomers created. Do you think that this whining and casting of blame is going to amount to something? I guess that a broken clock is right twice a day though, so that's got to be worth something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Do you think that this whining and casting of blame is going to amount to something? I guess that a broken clock is right twice a day though, so that's got to be worth something. No, but do you think giving more money to their Chiefs is going to fix the problem? My point still stands. There is no systemic oppression Canada, and socialism doesnt work. I'm just not going to feel morally responsible for any of it. Edited September 20, 2019 by 5Fivehole0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: No, but do you think giving more money to their Chiefs is going to fix the problem? My point still stands. There is no systemic oppression Canada, and socialism doesnt work. I'm just not going to feel morally responsible for any of it. If you feel that way, please stop using roads and burn your MSP card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, HerrDrFunk said: If you feel that way, please stop using roads and burn your MSP card. Why? I've paid my taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, 5Fivehole0 said: Why? I've paid my taxes. Because socialism, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: No, but do you think giving more money to their Chiefs is going to fix the problem? What are you talking about? What do first nations receiving money from the federal government have to do with what I was saying? 2 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: My point still stands. There is no systemic oppression Canada, and socialism doesnt work. Your point stands in your head only. I don't think people are being oppressed as we speak in Canada, but I do believe there are areas in Canada that are suffering due to the lack of safe drinking water. While that's not oppression, it is a very serious crisis that is threatening the health of the people in those communities. 2 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: I'm just not going to feel morally responsible for any of it. Did someone ask you to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, 5Fivehole0 said: Again you say nothing. The things I want to say I'm not allowed to. The things I need to say...well you're not worth the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: No. It's seeing the world for what it is. A huge mess that gen x and the baby boomers created. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought we weren’t supposed to blame others for our problems? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: The things I want to say I'm not allowed to. The things I need to say...well you're not worth the time Don't have a hernia. There's the difference between you and I. I don't get emotional over this stuff. I wish you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: If you feel that way, please stop using roads and burn your MSP card. 5 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: Why? I've paid my taxes. Right here is that divide in intelligence scientists indicate exists in right wing supporters. Like you could literally see it in this brief interaction 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: What are you talking about? What do first nations receiving money from the federal government have to do with what I was saying? Your point stands in your head only. I don't think people are being oppressed as we speak in Canada, but I do believe there are areas in Canada that are suffering due to the lack of safe drinking water. While that's not oppression, it is a very serious crisis that is threatening the health of the people in those communities. Sorry, I guess I got caught up in the verbal onslaught and started lumping opinions. I agree with you, but Trudeaus government has not done any where close to enough. Harper's did nothing. The First Nations communities should have banded together to help each other rather than rely on their past oppressors current governing bodies. I brought up the Federal money because I believe it to be squandered when it could have been used to correct these issues internally. Quote Did someone ask you to? Well ya... All the time. I am asked to everytime someone says I have male privilege or white privilege. It's insulting. Also, ma dude... You said I had no point and then agreed with my point xD. Edited September 20, 2019 by 5Fivehole0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Right here is that divide in intelligence scientists indicate exists in right wing supporters. Like you could literally see it in this brief interaction I disagree with you, therefore I should forfeit my healthcare and right to use basic infrastructure. And I'm the crazy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Right here is that divide in intelligence scientists indicate exists in right wing supporters. Like you could literally see it in this brief interaction Is it political leanings or just being very young and not the brightest bulb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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