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hey guys just had an idea

 

Virtanen + 4th for Sissons

or

Sutter+Virtanen for Sissons+3rd

 

They get younger and a pick or a replacement for 3C and a forward for cheap with middle potential

We get a little more playoff experience. Sissons can play RW and is better suited to a 3rd line role then Virtanen. Sissons is a local boy and is still fairly cheap.

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

Let's just wait and see over the next 10 games what happens

 

I know Virtanen probably won't be traded for a few weeks but in terms of value is this fair? Is this a good trade for us?

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Colton Sissons signed a really odd contract this summer. 7 years at 2.86 million AAV. Not a very high cap hit but 7 years at that price doesn't make much sense. Especially for a 30 point guy. 

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1 hour ago, milk and honey said:

I know Virtanen probably won't be traded for a few weeks but in terms of value is this fair? Is this a good trade for us?

I am wondering why you think he is such an upgrade on Jake in the first place

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19 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

I am wondering why you think he is such an upgrade on Jake in the first place

Better 3rd liner with playoff experience.

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4 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

Better? Says who?

 

Sorry, I don't know the guy enough

This guy.  He can carve through a D with ease. 

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1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said:

Better? Says who?

 

Sorry, I don't know the guy enough

me

 

better checker, better defensively, more physical, hits, plays on the pk, solid faceoff %, 

 

Jake is a better scorer, faster, and can play top6minutes.

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17 hours ago, milk and honey said:

hey guys just had an idea

 

Virtanen + 4th for Sissons

or

Sutter+Virtanen for Sissons+3rd

 

They get younger and a pick or a replacement for 3C and a forward for cheap with middle potential

We get a little more playoff experience. Sissons can play RW and is better suited to a 3rd line role then Virtanen. Sissons is a local boy and is still fairly cheap.

 

 

 

 


Nashville just signed him to a 7 year deal.  Friedman in his 31 thoughts of a few months ago writes that Nashville absolutely adores Sissons.  

 

Nashville's window is wide open - Virtanen has yet to establish himself while Sissons is a great shutdown player and brings so much versatility.  They moved Fiala (same draft as Virtanen) because he has yet to find consistency and they didn't want to wait.  

 

Moving Sissons for Virtanen is a step back and doesn't help their window. 

 

Sutter is redundant as they already have Bonino.  Sissons and Jarnkrok can also play shutdown C.  Also Nashville defends by pushing for offence.  They want to maintain possession in the o-zone - that's not really Sutter's game.  
 

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He is kind of a weird player to have a 7 year deal.  I imagine they did so for a reason. 

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20 minutes ago, BCNeil said:

He is kind of a weird player to have a 7 year deal.  I imagine they did so for a reason. 

Re-signing Sissons was one of Poile's top priority of the off-season.  Poile just gave an interview talking about the importance of two-way players.  Sissons can impact the game at both ends of the ice - very strong defensively and can score.  He notably had a hattrick in the playoffs filling in for injured Johansen at C1. 

 

He is on their 4th line with Bonino-Watson.  He's mostly used in a defensive role but he can move to a scoring line.  Plays the PK but can also play the PP if needed.  Very versatile player.

 

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Yes I’d do this deal for sure.   NSH wouldn’t though.  Seriously anyone who knows this players would says no thanks for Sutter and JV or just JV and a pick.   He’s the new Silverberg - a valuable utility guy that can help any team.  At this point I really don’t think JV would get us much in a trade .... he’s got to do better or he’s going to end up with no takers his next contract.

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On 10/1/2019 at 6:14 PM, milk and honey said:

hey guys just had an idea

 

Virtanen + 4th for Sissons

or

Sutter+Virtanen for Sissons+3rd

 

They get younger and a pick or a replacement for 3C and a forward for cheap with middle potential

We get a little more playoff experience. Sissons can play RW and is better suited to a 3rd line role then Virtanen. Sissons is a local boy and is still fairly cheap.

 

 

 

 

Yes I like this idea.   He’d be a great addition to the team ...

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On 10/2/2019 at 6:14 AM, milk and honey said:

hey guys just had an idea

 

Virtanen + 4th for Sissons

or

Sutter+Virtanen for Sissons+3rd

 

They get younger and a pick or a replacement for 3C and a forward for cheap with middle potential

We get a little more playoff experience. Sissons can play RW and is better suited to a 3rd line role then Virtanen. Sissons is a local boy and is still fairly cheap.

 

 

 

 

Scissors is a young, hard working, and effective 3rd line Center that is signed at an excellent long term cap hit.    Nashville won’t be giving him up so easily.......especially for that package.

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For all his bad press and apparent inconsistency virtanen still makes things happen on the ice with his speed, grit and shot... virtanen can generate turnovers in the offensive end and that is a tough task for most players. in my opinion we would be foolish to give up on his development.

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