I.Am.Ironman Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) On 11/23/2019 at 2:31 PM, TheInsideScoop said: I wonder if the protocol is much longer for those that previously have had concussions, regardless of how they are feeling or saying how they are feeling It is based on symptoms and it takes a minimum of 24hours to progress to the next stage. Each stage increases exercise intensity. To graduate a stage one must complete the exercise without any symptoms in a 24 hour period. This goes from no activity, to the stationary bike at low intensity, eventually to drill, non-contact practice and eventually contact practice. I missed some stages in the middle and not sure of the exact protocol/too lazy to look it up, but that is the approximate structure. If you 'fail' a stage/have a recurrence of symptoms then you go back to previous stage. Basically there is the protocol that the player needs to graduate + the clinical reasoning of the medical team (where concussion history comes into play) Edited November 25, 2019 by I.Am.Ironman corrections 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaNux Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: It is based on symptoms and it takes a minimum of 24hours to progress to the next stage. Each stage increases exercise intensity. To graduate a stage one must complete the exercise without any symptoms in a 24 hour period. This goes from no activity, to the stationary bike at low intensity, eventually to drill, non-contact practice and eventually contact practice. I missed some stages in the middle and not sure of the exact protocol/too lazy to look it up, but that is the approximate structure. If you 'fail' a stage/have a recurrence of symptoms then I believe you go back to stage one. Thanks, interesting to know the rough framework. Saying all of that..... that doesn't sound good for Ferland in that case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, TheInsideScoop said: Thanks, interesting to know the rough framework. Saying all of that..... that doesn't sound good for Ferland in that case No. As a general rule the more concussions = the longer symptoms persists. Individual variance and severity depending, of course. It may also be that the staff is being extra cautious, as they should be. In my personal and humble opinion, it is discouraging that a concussion with seemingly persistent symptoms (due to length of time being out of the line up) was had with no clear mechanism that we could see. Yeah he had the fight but there were no 'clean shots' so to speak. Bottom line though is that we don't know. If your interested you can look up the SCAT 5 for more information. It's an industry standard concussion guideline. Teams in the NHL have access to more advanced neurological testing but they will follow the SCAT 5 framework for return to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Knucklehd Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Wow, Ferland, going from no news to great news! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Nice to see players getting back from injury. With Roussel on a conditioning stint, I'm curious how management will make room for his return. If Beagle goes on IR then that alleviates some pressure since Baertschi, Graovac and MacEwen are easily demoted (unless Baertschi is kept past 30 Nov) to make room for Roussel, Motte, Ferland and Sutter. Once Beagle is back though, something has got to give. My guess is Schaller will be waived to make room for Rouss well. No shade meant for Schaller, I just see him as the odd man out in the situation as I think Motte slots in higher than him in the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 hours ago, EternalCanuckFan said: Nice to see players getting back from injury. With Roussel on a conditioning stint, I'm curious how management will make room for his return. If Beagle goes on IR then that alleviates some pressure since Baertschi, Graovac and MacEwen are easily demoted (unless Baertschi is kept past 30 Nov) to make room for Roussel, Motte, Ferland and Sutter. Once Beagle is back though, something has got to give. My guess is Schaller will be waived to make room for Rouss well. No shade meant for Schaller, I just see him as the odd man out in the situation as I think Motte slots in higher than him in the depth chart. I cant See Schaller being waived, coach Green has liked his plat this season, Waive the 6m plug instead....other teams have buried their bad contracts time for us to do it! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Canuckster86 said: I cant See Schaller being waived, coach Green has liked his plat this season, Waive the 6m plug instead....other teams have buried their bad contracts time for us to do it! I would like to see that too but not sure if ownership is going to go for it. I agree with you though, purely on merit I think Eriksson deserves to be demoted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 11 hours ago, EternalCanuckFan said: Nice to see players getting back from injury. With Roussel on a conditioning stint, I'm curious how management will make room for his return. If Beagle goes on IR then that alleviates some pressure since Baertschi, Graovac and MacEwen are easily demoted (unless Baertschi is kept past 30 Nov) to make room for Roussel, Motte, Ferland and Sutter. Once Beagle is back though, something has got to give. My guess is Schaller will be waived to make room for Rouss well. No shade meant for Schaller, I just see him as the odd man out in the situation as I think Motte slots in higher than him in the depth chart. Graovac, Baertschi and Eriksson will go down Schaller has played well, so he’s staying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post nuck-lifer Posted November 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2019 Not sure if this the right place to post on a player from Utica , but finally some news on Juolevi skating again 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Any updates on Eagle or returning players? We need some of those meat and potatoes bottom 6 guys back in the line-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Travis Green mentioned after the game that Tyler Graovac will be out "for a while." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Slegr Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 13 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: I’d bet it’s his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Do we get Ferland and Sutter back next game hopefully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 19 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Well that's not good news. I would imagine Edler will be out until after the Christmas break at this point, especially if it's a back injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure2Win Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 20 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Typical................Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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