Popular Post SabreFan1 Posted October 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: It seems the predictions from two years ago were ridiculed for 8 or 9 pages but eventually were proven fairly accurate. There are always exceptions who knows for sure maybe Pettersson gets 120 points and Boeser scores 60+ goals, maybe Sutter lights up the lamp for 30+ or Schaller pots 25+, anything can happen heck even Tanev and Edler could play the whole season and both achieve 55 points. The shown estimate of the standings have a cluster of teams around the 26 mark so a margin of error might be +/- 4 spots, 22 to 30th with the curve closer to the 22 spot. Still not enough improvement overall though. The StLouis comment, remember they were a top team that had a bad 2 1/2 months, really bad time and after January they caught on fire, but they were a really good team that were really bad for a very short period of time. Oh ya, those predictions from two years ago came true, so did the years before and after. CDC cries and cries and ridicules the sources and when the Canucks land roughly where predicted, none of the people who ridiculed the lists admit that they were wrong and the people who make a living doing this were much more right than not. The Athletic polled it's journalists and several had the Canucks listed as their team that could become the biggest surprise of the year. Edited October 2, 2019 by SabreFan1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Predicting only 4 sub-500 teams? That seems low. Also, Detroit dead last, despite somehow playing 83 games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run n Gun Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I would also like to add that this is the first year in many that I'm actually excited about the upcoming season. But, I can see why the Nucks are still ranked so low by those who follow hockey... Some might feel that Miller is playing too high in a top 6 role and would be better suited for a bottom 6 Ferland plays a hard game that lends to missing some (maybe a lot) of games Myers billed as a top pairing D-man but maybe needs protected minutes to be effective Hughes as a rookie - yet most Canucks fans already have him pegged as an effective top 4 D-man. Let the kid learn and grow. May be some growing pains involved. Injury prone line-up of players returning (you know the names) It'll be an interesting season. I'll be paying attention and finally buying a Canucks jersey for the first time in a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 And people pay to read this? Lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, c00kies said: Predicting only 4 sub-500 teams? That seems low. Also, Detroit dead last, despite somehow playing 83 games Detroit is apparently stealing a game from Columbus this season (since the model has the Jackets only playing 81 games). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, c00kies said: Predicting only 4 sub-500 teams? That seems low. Also, Detroit dead last, despite somehow playing 83 games I caught that too. That's what happens when you play with decimal points in analytics. You get rounding errors if you don't use enough digits after the whole number. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Run n Gun said: ooooh, you got me there alfie! My original comment just pointed to how silly these message board reactions are to predictions made by the media... mostly from people who are offended that the Nucks are always ranked so low - like our team can do not wrong. Even Benning commenting one year about how he couldn't wait for the season to start to prove everybody wrong... we all know how that season played out. Anyway, I think we're a bubble playoff team - not a grand prediction - it's pretty in line with most of the opinions around the city. Will the playoff race be like last year where it was mostly because most other teams sucked, or will it be a true playoff race where the all the teams are really good? That will play into if the Nucks make it this year or not... and the fact that our goaltending has to be top notch, of course. With the incredible depth of this years draft i am sure you can expect to see many teams tanking after TDL day to snatch up one of these gems so it could be like 2014/15 when several teams went for McDavid. That year was unusual in that both Calgary and Vancouver were huge surprises but both were wiped out in the playoffs, Ferland mopped up the floor with the Canucks and then the Flames were embarrassed by the Ducks. The Canucks were a 83 pt team before that one blip, 83, 101, 75, 69, 73, 81 so another unexpected tanking by a few teams that want to shorten their rebuild by years might propel the Canucks into a playoff spot (artificially). Funny the entire front off was canned for hitting 83 points and now it a a mark of achievement to reach 83 points. Edited October 2, 2019 by ItTakesAnArmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: And people pay to read this? Lol It's an analytical model purely based on numbers. The OP said/inferred it was the writers but he's wrong. It's the same one, made up by the one guy who is the top analytics guy on the site that I posted last season that you all cried about. It turned out to be fairly accurate in the end with the only major outlier being the St. Louis Blues. Edited October 2, 2019 by SabreFan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Leafs second overall. With that D and bottom 6? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: It's an analytical model purely based on numbers. The OP said/inferred it was the writers but he's wrong. It's the same one, made up by the one guy who is the top analytics guy on the site that I posted last season that you all cried about. It turned out to be fairly accurate in the end with the only major outlier being the St. Louis Blues. Only one that mattered though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieeater55 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 why is minny so high on that list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 41 minutes ago, Run n Gun said: For the past 4 years... The media have had low projections for the Nucks. Followed by outrage from these very message boards.... yet the Nucks have continually proven that they are a bottom feeding team. Will this year be different? I sure hope so... but I can also see why projections for the team are all over the place for this year. Let's not get our panties in a bunch, folks. Where do you think the cutoff is to be considered bottom feeding ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, Aladeen said: Only one that mattered though. If sports were just a matter of math, I'd bet on sports instead of playing the markets. One of the greatest things about sports is that there are usually teams that beat the odds. Last year it was the Blues. They just happened to ride that wave to the Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 So we finish worse than last year despite adding two top six forwards, a top 4 RD, a 3rd pair LD and a full season of Quinn Hughes?? Give me a break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, BlastPast said: Where do you think the cutoff is to be considered bottom feeding ? Bottom feeding teams are teams that continually end up at the bottom of the league year after year. True bottom feeders don't just happen in one or two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Leafs second overall. With that D and bottom 6? This is their year no really this is it it's different this time because it just is 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Pears said: So we finish worse than last year despite adding two top six forwards, a top 4 RD, a 3rd pair LD and a full season of Quinn Hughes?? Give me a break. Or the Canucks are the team that demolishes the analytics a la the Blues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: Bottom feeding teams are teams that continually end up at the bottom of the league year after year. True bottom feeders don't just happen in one or two seasons. Yeah, what constitutes the bottom ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 49 minutes ago, Run n Gun said: For the past 4 years... The media have had low projections for the Nucks. Followed by outrage from these very message boards.... yet the Nucks have continually proven that they are a bottom feeding team. Will this year be different? I sure hope so... but I can also see why projections for the team are all over the place for this year. Let's not get our panties in a bunch, folks. To be fair, most pundits had us at dead last in 2018-19 with below 70 points. We finished quite a bit above that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, BlastPast said: Yeah, what constitutes the bottom ? Look at the Buffalo Sabres and Edmonton Oilers roster vs. record for the last 5 or 6 years. Bottom feeding isn't just a team problem, it's also an organizational problem. The Sabres and Oilers have talent out the wazoo, but they manage to suck year after year. That points to an organizational failure which has led to a bottom feeding team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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