Curmudgeon Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Boudrias said: Google his name and read some of his conclusions. Yeah, about that: Couldn't get past his criminal conviction: "In 1999, Japanese fraud investigators accused Armstrong of collecting money from Japanese investors, improperly commingling these funds with funds from other investors, and using the fresh money to cover losses he had incurred while trading.[14] United States prosecutors called it a three-billion-dollar Ponzi scheme.[15] Allegedly assisting Armstrong in his scheme was the Republic New York Corporation, which produced false account statements to reassure Armstrong's investors. In 2001, the bank agreed to pay US$606 million as restitution for its part in the scandal.[15] Armstrong was indicted in 1999 and ordered by Judge Richard Owen to turn over fifteen million dollars in gold bars and antiquities bought with the fund's money; the list included bronze helmets and a bust of Julius Caesar.[16][17] Armstrong produced some of the items but claimed the others were not in his possession; this led to several contempt of court charges brought by the SEC and the CFTC, for which he served seven years in jail until he reached a plea bargain with federal prosecutors.[18][19][20] Under the terms of the agreement, Armstrong admitted to deceiving corporate investors and improperly commingling client funds—actions that according to prosecutors resulted in commodities losses of more than seven hundred million dollars—and was sentenced to five years in prison.[21][16] He was released from federal custody on 2 September 2011 after serving a total of eleven years behind bars.[22][23] The case against Armstrong was finally closed in 2017, with the distribution of about $80 million to claim holders by the receiver, according to court filings.[24] Armstrong appealed the refusal of the receiver to transport his remaining possessions from storage lockers in New York and Pennsylvania to him in Florida, but the appeal failed in 2019. In 2014, a New Jersey day laborer claimed to have found a cache of valuable rare coins while clearing out the basement of a house, and subsequently sold them to a local thrift shop. Three years later in 2017, the thrift shop announced they were to auction the coins, however Armstrong came forward and claimed to be the rightful owner, saying he hid them in his mother's old house to take them "off the books" in anticipation of his firm's public offering. The thrift shop sued Armstrong, and asked the court to declare the thrift shop as rightful owners. Armstrong counter-sued also seeking ownership. The US government found out about the coins, in 2019, and claimed the coins as part of the treasure horde Armstrong had refused to hand over to the Court, in 1999, and for which he served seven years in jail for contempt. The horde consisted of 102 gold bars, 699 gold coins, an ancient bust of Julius Caesar, and rare coins in total valued at $12.9 million." Edit: Sorry, but I doubt the words and the judgement of liars and thieves. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: Yeah, about that: Couldn't get past his criminal conviction: "In 1999, Japanese fraud investigators accused Armstrong of collecting money from Japanese investors, improperly commingling these funds with funds from other investors, and using the fresh money to cover losses he had incurred while trading.[14] United States prosecutors called it a three-billion-dollar Ponzi scheme.[15] Allegedly assisting Armstrong in his scheme was the Republic New York Corporation, which produced false account statements to reassure Armstrong's investors. In 2001, the bank agreed to pay US$606 million as restitution for its part in the scandal.[15] Armstrong was indicted in 1999 and ordered by Judge Richard Owen to turn over fifteen million dollars in gold bars and antiquities bought with the fund's money; the list included bronze helmets and a bust of Julius Caesar.[16][17] Armstrong produced some of the items but claimed the others were not in his possession; this led to several contempt of court charges brought by the SEC and the CFTC, for which he served seven years in jail until he reached a plea bargain with federal prosecutors.[18][19][20] Under the terms of the agreement, Armstrong admitted to deceiving corporate investors and improperly commingling client funds—actions that according to prosecutors resulted in commodities losses of more than seven hundred million dollars—and was sentenced to five years in prison.[21][16] He was released from federal custody on 2 September 2011 after serving a total of eleven years behind bars.[22][23] The case against Armstrong was finally closed in 2017, with the distribution of about $80 million to claim holders by the receiver, according to court filings.[24] Armstrong appealed the refusal of the receiver to transport his remaining possessions from storage lockers in New York and Pennsylvania to him in Florida, but the appeal failed in 2019. In 2014, a New Jersey day laborer claimed to have found a cache of valuable rare coins while clearing out the basement of a house, and subsequently sold them to a local thrift shop. Three years later in 2017, the thrift shop announced they were to auction the coins, however Armstrong came forward and claimed to be the rightful owner, saying he hid them in his mother's old house to take them "off the books" in anticipation of his firm's public offering. The thrift shop sued Armstrong, and asked the court to declare the thrift shop as rightful owners. Armstrong counter-sued also seeking ownership. The US government found out about the coins, in 2019, and claimed the coins as part of the treasure horde Armstrong had refused to hand over to the Court, in 1999, and for which he served seven years in jail for contempt. The horde consisted of 102 gold bars, 699 gold coins, an ancient bust of Julius Caesar, and rare coins in total valued at $12.9 million." Edit: Sorry, but I doubt the words and the judgement of liars and thieves. Wow. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: Yeah, about that: Couldn't get past his criminal conviction: "In 1999, Japanese fraud investigators accused Armstrong of collecting money from Japanese investors, improperly commingling these funds with funds from other investors, and using the fresh money to cover losses he had incurred while trading.[14] United States prosecutors called it a three-billion-dollar Ponzi scheme.[15] Allegedly assisting Armstrong in his scheme was the Republic New York Corporation, which produced false account statements to reassure Armstrong's investors. In 2001, the bank agreed to pay US$606 million as restitution for its part in the scandal.[15] Armstrong was indicted in 1999 and ordered by Judge Richard Owen to turn over fifteen million dollars in gold bars and antiquities bought with the fund's money; the list included bronze helmets and a bust of Julius Caesar.[16][17] Armstrong produced some of the items but claimed the others were not in his possession; this led to several contempt of court charges brought by the SEC and the CFTC, for which he served seven years in jail until he reached a plea bargain with federal prosecutors.[18][19][20] Under the terms of the agreement, Armstrong admitted to deceiving corporate investors and improperly commingling client funds—actions that according to prosecutors resulted in commodities losses of more than seven hundred million dollars—and was sentenced to five years in prison.[21][16] He was released from federal custody on 2 September 2011 after serving a total of eleven years behind bars.[22][23] The case against Armstrong was finally closed in 2017, with the distribution of about $80 million to claim holders by the receiver, according to court filings.[24] Armstrong appealed the refusal of the receiver to transport his remaining possessions from storage lockers in New York and Pennsylvania to him in Florida, but the appeal failed in 2019. In 2014, a New Jersey day laborer claimed to have found a cache of valuable rare coins while clearing out the basement of a house, and subsequently sold them to a local thrift shop. Three years later in 2017, the thrift shop announced they were to auction the coins, however Armstrong came forward and claimed to be the rightful owner, saying he hid them in his mother's old house to take them "off the books" in anticipation of his firm's public offering. The thrift shop sued Armstrong, and asked the court to declare the thrift shop as rightful owners. Armstrong counter-sued also seeking ownership. The US government found out about the coins, in 2019, and claimed the coins as part of the treasure horde Armstrong had refused to hand over to the Court, in 1999, and for which he served seven years in jail for contempt. The horde consisted of 102 gold bars, 699 gold coins, an ancient bust of Julius Caesar, and rare coins in total valued at $12.9 million." Edit: Sorry, but I doubt the words and the judgement of liars and thieves. I remember that! Believe it or not it was an actual news story for a few weeks. Must have been a slow week or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhippy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Nothing wrong with Canada though. Only how Alberta views its place in the nation. We're a team, but one of the team members is more Kovalev than Borque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: Sorry, I stop paying attention when I see nothing but memes, but I have to ask: What law did Ottawa pass that "punishes only one province"? Edited February 19, 2020 by RUPERTKBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Nothing wrong with Canada though. Only how Alberta views its place in the nation. We're a team, but one of the team members is more Kovalev than Borque Interesting take meanwhile the bloc is the 3rd biggest party in the HOC, bc, sask and Manitoba all hav sepratist movements...yait's just Alberta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: I can't believe that people give him the time of day. This guy was an MP representing an Albertan riding during the last time equalization was changed. He was in Ottawa, in government for the better part of a decade. If Canada is so broken, why didn't he/they do anything about it? Sounds to me that he/they are a bunch of temper tantrum opportunists stoking fear and hate to get political support and not promoting sound policy. Edited February 19, 2020 by thedestroyerofworlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Profile shots. Must be his good side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: Profile shots. Must be his good side. His other side has a rash from all the crying man-tears and tissue dabbing going on..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Anyone remember when BCs forestry industry was devastated by NAFTA, ongoing softwood disputes, the sustainable forestry practices act, pine beetle and raw log shipments and BC threatened to leave the nation if nothing was done about it and the rules weren't;t changed just for BC? Me neither. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 11:28 AM, Ryan Strome said: The Banana Republic of Alberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 12:28 PM, Ryan Strome said: RS have you read the Buffalo Declaration yet? When CPC MP's start losing their seats to Wexit candidates watch out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Boudrias said: RS have you read the Buffalo Declaration yet? When CPC MP's start losing their seats to Wexit candidates watch out. what a bunch of snowflakes, amirite? honestly though it's amazing how it's everyone else's fault and there's zero introspection that maybe some of your issues are your own creation. it's very 'american' of these people. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: RS have you read the Buffalo Declaration yet? When CPC MP's start losing their seats to Wexit candidates watch out. Yes I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, inane said: what a bunch of snowflakes, amirite? honestly though it's amazing how it's everyone else's fault and there's zero introspection that maybe some of your issues are your own creation. it's very 'american' of these people. Yes blocking our product from getting to Market is our creation. Us giving Ottawa over 20 billion dollars a year is our creation. Cancelling projects that would create thousands of jobs is our creation and furthermore the national energy program certainly wasn't our creation Edited February 21, 2020 by Ryan Strome 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Yes I have. that thing is comedic gold. My favourite part is the declaration on the NEP. But every new society needs a creation myth. Nothing is going to get solved by Albertans death grip on past perceived slights. You don't base a new country on something that happened 40+ years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Yes blocking our product from getting to Market is our creation. Us giving Ottawa over 20 billion dollars a year is our creation. Counselling projects that would create thousands of jobs is our creation and furthermore the national energy program certainly wasn't our creation Thanks for proving my point so succinctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: that thing is comedic gold. My favourite part is the declaration on the NEP. But every new society needs a creation myth. Nothing is going to get solved by Albertans death grip on past perceived slights. You don't base a new country on something that happened 40+ years ago. Didn't think you would like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Didn't think you would like it. I was actually surprised at just how backward looking it is. Literally no new ideas there. Zip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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