Warhippy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: Government sucks at running businesses. Ya that war room is needed, considering all the misinformation people believe. They call him warhippy. Tell us, please. What exactly has the war room done again? Why is it needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: Here's a thought experiment: Maybe the doofus above^^ (not talking about Strome) should have done something while he, Kenny, and Stevo were in government for the better part of a decade with a majority government. Now that they are out of government and the CONs managed to snatch defeat from victory, now they open their yaps and complain about things they should have and COULD have done something about. That doofus gets no sympathy or respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 The War Room is needed... Know what isn't needed? education, health care and front line nurses, funding for fire departments provincial parks and finally....low income housing maintenance during a prolonged economic downturn. Take that ya lousy povs https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/province-says-cutting-funds-for-repairs-to-affordable-housing-was-difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Here's a thought experiment: Maybe the doofus above^^ (not talking about Strome) should have done something while he, Kenny, and Stevo were in government for the better part of a decade with a majority government. Now that they are out of government and the CONs managed to snatch defeat from victory, now they open their yaps and complain about things they should have and COULD have done something about. That doofus gets no sympathy or respect. You aren't wrong however in Jean's case I think it's a little different. When he got into provincial politics it was the wildrose which makes me think he wasn't happy with the conservative party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: You aren't wrong however in Jean's case I think it's a little different. When he got into provincial politics it was the wildrose which makes me think he wasn't happy with the conservative party. Ya, the conservatives weren't crazy enough for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 2:51 PM, Warhippy said: Especially when over 160 total parks will be in private control. Essentially advertising for private business. But that $30 million war room sure is paying dividends. Oh, did you hear, fire depts also had their grants cut too. I'm just glad that Alberta can't &^@# up Banff, thank god thats out of Kenney's hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: You aren't wrong however in Jean's case I think it's a little different. When he got into provincial politics it was the wildrose which makes me think he wasn't happy with the conservative party. nah it just wasn't far right enough for him, can't let women have too many rights now can we? Alberta is suffering from massive group think but I really don't see a way out for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 4:32 PM, Warhippy said: Possibly? It kinda seems like a circular agreement with extra steps doesn't it? The meat of my argument is that privatization of park space is a very slippery slope. Knowing that the war room money could have gone to this is a slap in the face. Knowing that tourism Alberta will double tourism marketing/investment over the next decade to effectively advertise for private business is even more head scratching. I know you hate everything the UPC does no matter what, but I’d challenge you to play the devils advocate for this time. Can you think of any reasons why this would be a good thing? I’ll give you a head start. You can’t keep dumping money into maintaining sites (some of which require helicopter access) that see less than 100 people per year. In 2018, Sulphur lake only had 36 people, Smoke River only saw 22 people, Crow lake only saw 81 people, the list goes on and on. So regardless of the war room money or not, these were not wise ways to spend money would you not agree? It’s an easy way to spin the narrative and shout at the current political party in power but there’s a lot of cry about nothing. Many of these sites have seen a consistent decline in attendance, they are run down and in need of some long term investment. The type of investment that without a strategic and individual focus will not see a ROI. So they are “leasing” out these parks, they are not selling off land but entering a leasing partnership that will allow a nonprofit, municipality or aboriginals and run and maintain. I imaging more of the partnerships will be made with municipalities as they have the most to gain. This has been happening for last 20 years in a number of different provincial parks. This saves them 5 million in the budget and gives some parks a bit hope of revival. As far as the tourism goes. You might want to clarify your understanding on the matter. Alberta isn’t doubling its investment to 20 billion over the next decade like you stated, they aren’t even doubling their investment. They are just hoping to double provincial tourism REVENUE to 20 billion by 2030. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 tell me again @Ryan Strome how you wexiteers are going to hang on to your doctors? Kenney might lose them for you: https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/doctors-warn-of-brain-drain-coming-to-alberta-over-cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: tell me again @Ryan Strome how you wexiteers are going to hang on to your doctors? Kenney might lose them for you: https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/doctors-warn-of-brain-drain-coming-to-alberta-over-cuts Answer: Something something carrying Canada to the tune of something something billions of dollars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: they are run down and in need of some long term investment. The above is probably the reason for the below "have seen a consistent decline in attendance" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: tell me again @Ryan Strome how you wexiteers are going to hang on to your doctors? Kenney might lose them for you: https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/doctors-warn-of-brain-drain-coming-to-alberta-over-cuts Those who work and have good employment will have private insurance shared with their employers, just like in the States. They will get the best of care. The lazy losers, who do nothing but suck the life out of our system, will get nothing. The doctors will get paid more (because there will be way less bloated government bureaucracy eating up the dollars) so they will happily stay. The rest of ?Canada’s will lose our best doctors to Alberta. No more socialist/communist crap in Canada. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Those who work and have good employment will have private insurance shared with their employers, just like in the States. They will get the best of care. The lazy losers, who do nothing but suck the life out of our system, will get nothing. The doctors will get paid more (because there will be way less bloated government bureaucracy eating up the dollars) so they will happily stay. The rest of ?Canada’s will lose our best doctors to Alberta. No more socialist/communist crap in Canada. most specialists already have far more money than time, thats not whats going to keep them in Albertastan. There's simply no way to pay them all enough to stay in a weird pseudo-US system. Edited March 5, 2020 by Jimmy McGill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: nah it just wasn't far right enough for him, can't let women have too many rights now can we? Alberta is suffering from massive group think but I really don't see a way out for you guys. Umm the Wildrose was my party. 36 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: tell me again @Ryan Strome how you wexiteers are going to hang on to your doctors? Kenney might lose them for you: https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/doctors-warn-of-brain-drain-coming-to-alberta-over-cuts Where they going? Somewhere to make less, seems legit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: most specialists already have far more money than time, thats not whats going to keep them in Albertastan. There's simply no way to pay them all enough to stay in a weird pseudo-US system. There will be way more money for the doctors, nurses, and care aides. The front line people will get the money that is now bled off by the socialist/communist bureaucracy. Private business can’t afford the fat a government monopoly has. They actually have to compete for their dollar. BC should join Alberta and get out now. It would be the best country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, gurn said: The above is probably the reason for the below "have seen a consistent decline in attendance" So what would you propose? Should Alberta heavily invest in upgrading these sites? Im actually curious to hear. alberta had 3 options. 1) maintain status quo and watch them get run down even more and waste more money (5 million) 2) invest so that when/if the economy flips and people once again have recreational spend, that these parks might see returns 3) partner with non profits, municipalities and aboriginals to take over maintaining these parks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Umm the Wildrose was my party. Where they going? Somewhere to make less, seems legit. In a truly private and competitive system the best will come and make the most. The hard working people will benefit from better care. It’s a win - win. Communism doesn’t work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: There will be way more money for the doctors, nurses, and care aides. The front line people will get the money that is now bled off by the socialist/communist bureaucracy. Private business can’t afford the fat a government monopoly has. They actually have to compete for their dollar. BC should join Alberta and get out now. It would be the best country. 11 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Where they going? Somewhere to make less, seems legit. you guys are under the impression that Alberta is going to have more money, and a private system is gong to appeal to them. They'll make as much as they want in any province, no need to stay in private whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Umm the Wildrose was my party. well, Jean isn't exactly on the forefront of supporting choice, or did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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