Ryan Strome Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: I wonder how many in the Wexit crowd will blame JT or the environmentalists protesters on this one. Financial Post link Oil consumption to fall by largest volume on record, dealing fresh blow to oilpatch Should we believe it though? Your same source has pointed out how much oil consumption will grow and you never believe it so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Strome: I asked you how an independent Alberta would make my flight from Vancouver to Toronto longer and you said something about dependence on Us. I ask you to explain what you meant. You then posted something totally unrelated and said somebody else got it. Maybe you are trying to battle on too many fronts, but I am still waiting for an explanation of how my flight to Toronto would be longer if Alberta were independent. Answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Should we believe it though? Your same source has pointed out how much oil consumption will grow and you never believe it so.. I never believed it? Care to provide your source so I can give you my position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 @warhippy I will hold your hand again. From 2016 middle of recession. Albertans sent $49 billion worth of taxes to Ottawa in 2016, but only received $27.2 billion back in the form of federal spending. This equates to a “gap” of $21.8 billion. On average, it means that, in 2016, every Albertan paid $5,265 more into Confederation than they get back. It’s the largest single “gap” of any province. Ontario ranks in second place as a net contributor to Canada, but its “gap” is only $9 billion. Alberta’s chief enemy right now, B.C., also has a net loss in federal spending, although it was just $4.2 billion in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Just now, Curmudgeon said: Strome: I asked you how an independent Alberta would make my flight from Vancouver to Toronto longer and you said something about dependence on Us. I ask you to explain what you meant. You then posted something totally unrelated and said somebody else got it. Maybe you are trying to battle on too many fronts, but I am still waiting for an explanation of how my flight to Toronto would be longer if Alberta were independent. Answer the question. I said you were right you already dependent on the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: I never believed it? Care to provide your source so I can give you my position? Just scroll the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 @Ryan Strome do you have an analysis of how AB would do under #wexit? something we can sink our teeth into, not just an odd number chucked out here or there. I realize you're not on the committee yet but maybe you've seen something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Just scroll the thread. So your usual response to being asked for sources is "get it yourself". When you do provide a "quote", you dont provide a link so we can check if it came from an opinion piece, something you claimed to not do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: @warhippy I will hold your hand again. From 2016 middle of recession. Albertans sent $49 billion worth of taxes to Ottawa in 2016, but only received $27.2 billion back in the form of federal spending. This equates to a “gap” of $21.8 billion. On average, it means that, in 2016, every Albertan paid $5,265 more into Confederation than they get back. It’s the largest single “gap” of any province. Ontario ranks in second place as a net contributor to Canada, but its “gap” is only $9 billion. Alberta’s chief enemy right now, B.C., also has a net loss in federal spending, although it was just $4.2 billion in 2016. Where is this quote from? Calling BC Alberta's "chief enemy" sounds odd.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Where is this quote from? Calling BC Alberta's "chief enemy" sounds odd.... https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/of-course-alberta-is-getting-fleeced-by-ottawa-just-not-in-the-way-you-think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Where is this quote from? Calling BC Alberta's "chief enemy" sounds odd.... not really, its Alberta vs the world. If you're not with them and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: So your usual response to being asked for sources is "get it yourself". When you do provide a "quote", you dont provide a link so we can check if it came from an opinion piece, something you claimed to not do. Lmao you know it's been said a bunch. Remember we will be off oil very soon right lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: not really, its Alberta vs the world. If you're not with them and all that. It's funny that so many disagree and how unfair things are to Alberta. But hey keep making the comparison to Norway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: not really, its Alberta vs the world. If you're not with them and all that. Ryan gave the source. It's the National Post, so no mystery there. That would have been my second guess, after the Calgary Herald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: I said you were right you already dependent on the United States. Annnnndddd you still make zero sense. If your Alberta is going to be populated by people like you, Alberta is worse off than I thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 In just 11 years, Albertans have paid out almost $240 billion to the rest of Canada. That number is more than one-and-a-half times as much as B.C. and Ontario combined, whose taxpayers pitched in $54.6 billion and $97.9 billion respectively, the other two largest net contributors to the federal balance sheet. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/how-alberta-pays-quebecs-bills-four-charts-that-show-alberta-picks-up-the-tab Alberta has paid $611 Billion in transfer payments from 1961 to 2017 https://www.thepostmillennial.com/alberta-has-paid-611-billion-in-transfer-payments-from-1961-to-2017/ Gary Lamphier: How much money has flowed out of Alberta to Ottawa? A lot https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/gary-lamphier-how-much-money-has-flowed-out-of-alberta-to-ottawa-a-lot Corbella: Quebec gets $1.4B more of our money. In return, Alberta gets kicked https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-quebec-gets-1-4b-more-of-our-money-in-return-alberta-gets-kicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: Annnnndddd you still make zero sense. If your Alberta is going to be populated by people like you, Alberta is worse off than I thought. The fact you aren't very smart isn't my fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: The fact you aren't very smart isn't my fault. Says the guy who still writes “I seen” instead of “I saw”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: You talk alot for a misinformed individual. Please educate yourself. Edited March 6, 2020 by Warhippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: https://www.thepostmillennial.com/alberta-has-paid-611-billion-in-transfer-payments-from-1961-to-2017/ Gary Lamphier: How much money has flowed out of Alberta to Ottawa? A lot https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/gary-lamphier-how-much-money-has-flowed-out-of-alberta-to-ottawa-a-lot ^^^^^^ Corbella: Quebec gets $1.4B more of our money. In return, Alberta gets kicked https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/corbella-quebec-gets-1-4b-more-of-our-money-in-return-alberta-gets-kicked Licia Corbella is a Postmedia opinion columnist. Edited March 6, 2020 by Warhippy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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