Warhippy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) Irony: complaining a think tank is politically biased against your argument but not having any argument to the contrary that supports you while paying tax dollars to companies for support Idiocy: using said think tanks numbers in your argument at court even though they directly and completely refute your position but knowing there's literally zero other credible information at all out there to support you. Yes that's right, Alberta is using the Pembina institutes numbers that directly and utterly show an almost zero impact on the former Alberta ndps carbon tax on growth in the province.... It hurts.... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/kenney-s-claim-carbon-tax-damaged-alberta-economy-is-refuted-in-court-documents-1.5396454 Edited December 16, 2019 by Warhippy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Irony: complaining a think tank is politically biased against your argument but not having any argument to the contrary that supports you while paying tax dollars to companies for support Idiocy: using said think tanks numbers in your argument at court even though they directly and completely refute your position but knowing there's literally zero other credible information at all out there to support you. Yes that's right, Alberta is using the Pembina institutes numbers that directly and utterly show an almost zero impact on the former Alberta ndps carbon tax on growth in the province.... It hurts.... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/kenney-s-claim-carbon-tax-damaged-alberta-economy-is-refuted-in-court-documents-1.5396454 B-but...the carbon tax took our jerbs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: B-but...the carbon tax took our jerbs! I said it before, they'll lose the case. Period. Using those numbers it will be a slam dunk as their entire argument rests around "the loss of growth" caused by the carbon tax. It's here to stay, Kenney killed off the provincial carbon tax and the programs it funded and now that money will still be paid...but it will go to the feds instead of staying in Alberta. Wonder who THAt will get blamed on 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Infanti Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Irony: complaining a think tank is politically biased against your argument but not having any argument to the contrary that supports you while paying tax dollars to companies for support Idiocy: using said think tanks numbers in your argument at court even though they directly and completely refute your position but knowing there's literally zero other credible information at all out there to support you. Yes that's right, Alberta is using the Pembina institutes numbers that directly and utterly show an almost zero impact on the former Alberta ndps carbon tax on growth in the province.... It hurts.... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/kenney-s-claim-carbon-tax-damaged-alberta-economy-is-refuted-in-court-documents-1.5396454 I'm not surprised the carbon tax didn't hurt the economy. It's a work of genius. We get hooked on expensive energy then the rebate rug gets pulled out from under us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr Infanti said: I'm not surprised the carbon tax didn't hurt the economy. It's a work of genius. We get hooked on expensive energy then the rebate rug gets pulled out from under us. Unless you utilized those rebates wisely and retrofitted your home in which case you're doing just fine with your savings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Unless you utilized those rebates wisely and retrofitted your home in which case you're doing just fine with your savings Mr never lived in Alberta please explain more of the rebate. I never got one so who do I contact? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Mr never lived in Alberta please explain more of the rebate. I never got one so who do I contact? There's a bunch here: https://showmethegreen.ca/home/home-improvement/government-grants-home-improvements-alberta/ https://efficiencyalberta.ca/ is a good site as well but it seems like a lot of programs were stopped as of October of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Mr never lived in Alberta please explain more of the rebate. I never got one so who do I contact? Of course your fan club doesn't have the stones to address me but leaves a cute smiley face for you. if you want information look for it. Stop being so worthlessly lazy and asking for a handout. You're an albertan, not an oil company so you don't get one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Infanti Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Unless you utilized those rebates wisely and retrofitted your home in which case you're doing just fine with your savings I got 400 bucks. What kind of investments do you think I should make. My house is nice and modern. You think I should save up for solar panels? The carbon tax is designed to make oil and gas and coal uneconomical compared to solar and wind. Once we have carbon artificially priced out of the market we will be left with expensive renewables and no rebate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Duodenum said: There's a bunch here: https://showmethegreen.ca/home/home-improvement/government-grants-home-improvements-alberta/ https://efficiencyalberta.ca/ is a good site as well but it seems like a lot of programs were stopped as of October of this year. 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Of course your fan club doesn't have the stones to address me but leaves a cute smiley face for you. if you want information look for it. Stop being so worthlessly lazy and asking for a handout. You're an albertan, not an oil company so you don't get one The rebates only went to certain people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mr Infanti said: I got 400 bucks. What kind of investments do you think I should make. My house is nice and modern. You think I should save up for solar panels? The carbon tax is designed to make oil and gas and coal uneconomical compared to solar and wind. Once we have carbon artificially priced out of the market we will be left with expensive renewables and no rebate. You could between former provincial and federal grants/rebates net up to $12,000 for solar banks and geothermal retrofitting. Much like one man found a way between fed and province to buy an electric car for a mere $4000 I mean you can be flippant, that's fine. but it appears as though you simply didn't do your homework if your net saving was only $400 so I'd be more upset at an inability to do the leg work than a program. I'd be even more upset knowing the money that formerly would have stayed in province is now going to the feds and the end result is...the exact same plan barring 2 or 3 minor tweaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: The rebates only went to certain people. The rebates went to anyone who qualified and did the work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Warhippy said: The rebates went to anyone who qualified and did the work I'm talkin money back from paying the carbon tax I never got anything yet I paid it daily to fuel up my pick up and on groceries and on utilities and everything else. But no money back ever. So if I'm entitled to it I would like to know how to get something back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: I'm talkin money back from paying the carbon tax I never got anything yet I paid it daily to fuel up my pick up and on groceries and on utilities and everything else. But no money back ever. So if I'm entitled to it I would like to know how to get something back. https://lmgtfy.com/?q=carbon+tax+refund+canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Happy Carbon Tax Day Alberta. I'm amused watching people on social media try to figure out how a 4.5 cent per litre tax is resulting in dime+ increases at the pump without mentioning it's pure greed and instead all Trudeau's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 12/16/2019 at 6:46 PM, Ryan Strome said: I'm talkin money back from paying the carbon tax I never got anything yet I paid it daily to fuel up my pick up and on groceries and on utilities and everything else. But no money back ever. So if I'm entitled to it I would like to know how to get something back. Simple - move to Quebec if you think that would work out better for u. Alberta are lucky to live in a resource rich province. Less Whine and more cheese is what i recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Simple - move to Quebec if you think that would work out better for u. Alberta are lucky to live in a resource rich province. Less Whine and more cheese is what i recommend. Quebec...ya right I hate that province. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: Quebec...ya right I hate that province. Quebec is the best place in Canada to live. Great people and an amazing culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: Quebec is the best place in Canada to live. Great people and an amazing culture. as long as you're not wearing something offensive to French Catholics, I suppose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: Quebec is the best place in Canada to live. Great people and an amazing culture. Broke province that would starve without Alberta. 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: as long as you're not wearing something offensive to French Catholics, I suppose. Most racist place in Canada. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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