Gurn Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 you get what you elect: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/notley-kenney-has-betrayed-albertans-to-fund-a-dollar47b-corporate-handout/ar-AAJzxuD?ocid=spartandhp " Editor’s note: The opinions in this article are the author’s, as published by our content partner, and do not necessarily represent the views of MSN or Microsoft. The budget presented by Premier Jason Kenney and the UCP will force every single Albertan to pay for his $4.7-billion no-jobs corporate giveaway. This budget will extract more in personal income taxes from every Albertan by disconnecting the tax code from inflation. This is a shocking betrayal of Jason Kenney’s central campaign promise. The Canadian Taxpayers’ Federation blasted the move as a “hidden, sneaky tax.” Jason Kenney himself denounced this technique as a tax increase when he led the CTF. It’s a sneaky tax that will pull $600 million out of individual Albertans’ pockets. And then there are the cuts. All Albertans will pay more to register their cars and campers, more for home and car insurance, electricity, school fees, even visits to provincial museums. Students will see their tuition costs skyrocket by 21 per cent over three years, and their parents won’t be able to apply those costs against their taxes anymore. That’s a tax increase. More than 46,000 older Albertans will be kicked off the Seniors Drug Benefit Program, and income testing will be introduced for those who stay through that first purge. Those are families on fixed incomes that will have to find the money elsewhere to pay for the medication they need. Jason Kenney has also targeted some of the most vulnerable for the deepest cuts. Severely handicapped Albertans will immediately lose $30 a month in benefits, rising to $120 a month by 2023. As many as 165,000 families living just above the poverty line will lose part of their child benefits, and 55,000 families will lose them entirely. Almost $100 million in housing and rental support has also vanished. There’s no doubt that these decisions will push thousands of Alberta children into poverty, and some families into homelessness. This budget breaks a range of promises made by Jason Kenney and his government. He promised education funding would keep pace with a growing student population. Promise broken — this budget provides $200 less for each student than last year. He promised health spending would keep pace with population growth. Promise broken — this budget takes money out of hospitals, out of our ambulance system, and out of our diagnostic imaging and lab testing system. Our government began the planning work on a badly needed redevelopment of the Red Deer Regional Hospital. Jason Kenney cut all of that planning money, and the hospital work has stopped. Incredibly, there is no significant new funding for rural police, let alone the 500 new officers he promised. This budget has a one-time $9-million increase — less than the NDP committed to rural crime — and then quickly drops rural police funding to below 2018 levels. In a few months, Jason Kenney will be spending less on rural policing than our government did. Albertans should not forget that one of Jason Kenney’s first acts as premier was to max out the province’s credit card on a $4.7-billion giveaway to the largest and most profitable corporations. We know this money has already been distributed to corporate shareholders without creating a single job. More than 27,000 Albertans have lost their jobs on Jason Kenney’s watch. This budget does nothing to get them back to work. Budget 2019 simply forces every Albertan to pay for Kenney’s corporate handout. NDP Leader Rachel Notley is the head of the official Opposition in Alberta. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Yet another hurdle - Alberta can't separate without the consent of First Nations, or at least take First Nations land with them if/when they do. Western separatism would have to face treaty nations, say First Nations leaders 'I don't think anyone is up for that kind of constitutional battle,' says constitutional law expert Assembly of First Nations National Chief Perry Bellegarde says Western separatism has to face the reality of treaty rights. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press) Prairie First Nation leaders say Alberta and Saskatchewan can't separate without their consent because the legal underpinnings allowing Canada to settle the region are based on the signing of the numbered treaties. The election of a minority Liberal government led by Justin Trudeau and the dominance of the Conservative party in Saskatchewan and Alberta — winning every riding except one — has again sparked talk of Western separation. "This is our land, we are staying here," said Marlene Poitras, Assembly of First Nations regional chief for Alberta and a member of the Mikisew Cree First Nation that is part of Treaty 8. "Right now, I am really not paying any attention to that until there is some move toward that. Then, like I said, they will have to deal with the First Nations." While Alberta Premier Jason Kenney has called the separatist movement "irrational," he is pushing ahead with plans for a referendum on equalization and is striking a panel to discuss the province's place in confederation with Albertans. Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has said that talk of Western separatism is "alive and well" in the province and blamed Ottawa for its rise. WEST OF CENTRE Alberta separation makes no sense, says Kenney, but leverage does Premier Moe demands 'new deal,' says he is handing Justin Trudeau a 'fire extinguisher' "Wexit" websites for Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba have popped up and a VoteWexit Facebook page has garnered more than 250,000 members. The movement appears strongest in Alberta and Saskatchewan. Marlene Poitras, regional chief for Alberta for the Assembly of First Nations, says racism swirls around the Western separatism movement. (Submitted by Marlene Poitras) For Poitras, the separatism movement has a menacing aspect. She said racism swirls around the idea of Western separation. "It's really unfortunate, some of the hate that comes out directed at First Nations," said Poitras. "People need to educate themselves and understand the true nature of our treaties. We existed before contact on this land." 'Provincial boundaries came after treaty territories' The British Crown signed 11 treaties with First Nations between 1871 and 1921 to allow for the settlement of the West. The treaties covered areas from northern and western Ontario through the Prairies and into parts of northern B.C., Yukon and the Northwest Territories. The Crown offered certain benefits, like health care and education, in exchange for land. While sometimes called cede and surrender treaties, many treaty First Nations say the original signatories never saw land as something that could be surrendered. Assembly of First Nations National Chief Perry Bellegarde, whose home community of Little Black Bear First Nation is a member of Treaty 4 in Saskatchewan, said the Western separatism movement has to respect the inherent rights of the treaty First Nations. "We have always said under treaty, that is the greatest act of co-operation in Canada on how we are sharing the land and resources together," said Bellegarde. "Even the provincial boundaries came after treaty territories.... You have to be careful when you down that road of Western alienation, Western exit. We have inherent rights; we have treaty rights, and those are international agreements with the Crown." In the '70s and '80s, some wanted Alberta to separate from Canada ANALYSIS The anger is real, but is western separatism? Saskatoon Tribal Council Chief Mark Arcand said any Western separatism movement has to go through First Nations before anything can happen. "At the end of the day, the province of Saskatchewan, the province of Alberta does not have the authority to decide if they want to separate," said Arcand. "We have treaty rights that we manage inside Treaty 6 territory. There has to be consultation in regards to this process. That is going to affect our treaty and inherent rights." 'I don't think anyone is up for that kind of ... battle' James (Sákéj) Youngblood Henderson, a constitutional and treaty expert, said Western Canada was "firmly built on treaties" between First Nations and the Crown. "Canada is the the so-called beneficiary of those treaties. All the lands transferred were never purchased by Canada," said Henderson, who is a research fellow at the University of Saskatchewan's Native Law Centre. James (Sákéj) Youngblood Henderson is a constitutional and treaty expert at the University of Saskatchewan.(National Aboriginal Land Managers Association) In 1930, through the Natural Resources Transfer Acts, treaty lands held by Ottawa were transferred to Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia which is how those provinces came to control their natural resources, said Henderson. "If the western provinces decided to secede they would have to breach the agreement of 1930 and that takes you back to the treaties and the treaty people who have to make their decision," said Henderson. "Then the treaties would be invigorated and it will have to be part of the negotiations. I don't think anyone is up for that kind of constitutional battle." Could foster political unity among treaty nations Paul Chartrand, a constitutional expert who was an adviser during the first ministers' meetings on Aboriginal constitutional reform in the 1980s, said any serious move to separate would give treaty First Nations leverage at the negotiating table. "In a live political situation, where the provinces would threaten to separate, it would bring in the First Nations, it would bring in the treaty nations and their negotiating advantage would be heightened," said Chartrand, who served as a commissioner on the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples. "Treaty nations operate, generally, as individual bands — they are very small communities that have very little political clout. In my mind, it would provide an incentive for political unity in the Prairie provinces and that is a powerful factor." Paul Chartrand was a commissioner from the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples. (CBC) There is also the additional tangle of reserve lands, which are under federal jurisdiction, which would also have to get sorted out, said Chartrand. But he doubts Western separatism could ever really gain traction. "I think it's something that has very little chance of developing," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Here's a good article on why Kenney's "referendum" is such a flawed idea. Its a very good example of how Kenney stokes and uses Alberta anger. This is also the point of this thread, showing examples of how Albertans are the one's being used and played for Kenney's political endeavours. This is just going to leave Albertans that much more frustrated and angry, for no gain whatsoever. EDMONTON Alberta’s equalization referendum ‘political science fiction,’ experts say By Kieran LeavittStar Edmonton Tues., Aug. 20, 2019timer4 min. read EDMONTON—Experts say that Alberta Premier Jason Kenney is using a referendum on equalization as a political weapon to strong arm Ottawa, but that in the end, the vote would be an expensive piece of theatre that holds no legal implications. Kenney and Quebec Premier François Legault butted heads this week over equalization. The two premiers clashed after Legault said that equalization was part of the original constitution in Canada and that his province was owed that money. The formula was actually drawn up in 1957 and has changed significantly since. Alberta receives no federal transfer payments and Quebec currently receives about $13 billion. In a statement Monday, Kenney refuted several points made by Legault, then reiterated his intention of holding a referendum vote on the constitution which enshrines the system of equalization. The crux of Kenney’s position is the fact that Albertans don’t receive the payments and contribute a lot to them, while provinces like Quebec do receive the payments, but their governments also raise opposition to Alberta’s development of energy resources. “Our call for a fair deal in the federation simply means this: If Ottawa and other provinces want to benefit from Alberta’s resources, then they must not oppose the transport and sale of those resources,” Kenney said in a statement on Monday. He then said his government was ready to hold “a referendum on Section 36 of the Constitution Act — the principle of equalization — if we do not see substantial progress on coastal pipelines and a repeal of devastating policies like Bill C-69, the ‘No More Pipelines Act.’ ” Daniel Beland, a professor at McGill University and equalization expert, said a referendum would likely cost Alberta taxpayers several million dollars only to amount to “a big show” since it wouldn’t have any legal effect. YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN... B.C. manhunt suspects recorded final message on phone found with bodies, family says Ontario to end funding for ‘inappropriate’ medical procedures “It’s a pretty clever political strategy in a way, because it’s also to make this claim that there is a relationship between equalization and environmental and energy policy, which is not the case concretely,” he said. That referendum would take place in October 2021, long after the next federal election is slated to take place this October, with a chance that the federal Conservatives could take power from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals. Kenney has acknowledged in the past that the referendum’s aim isn’t to amend the constitution or do away with equalization — simply to bring the conversation onto the national agenda. But political observers have criticized his rhetoric as misrepresenting what a referendum could really accomplish. Equalization is a complex formula written into the Canadian constitution. It sets a baseline for how well a province is doing economically and if it falls below that threshold, it can start receiving federal transfer payments through the equalization program. There’s about $20 billion in federal revenue attached to the program. People are often confused about where this money comes from, Beland said, explaining that Canadians as individuals pay taxes into the federal government’s general revenue stream. Equalization payments stem from that, not from bags of money Alberta hands over to the federal government. Beland noted that Albertans are the wealthiest Canadians in the country and said they end up paying more because they make more. But he also said that Kenney appears to hang many of Alberta’s grievances with the federal government on equalization, citing examples such as the lack of oil pipelines, a carbon tax and the economy. YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN... A small Alberta city is home to the busiest drug consumption site in North America. We spent 12 hours inside Elton John is wrong. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are hypocrites As for a referendum on equalization, “It’s really an agenda setting device,” said Beland. “It’s not in and of itself a constitutional tool.” RELATED STORIES Alberta and Quebec have little chance of pipeline compromise Jason Kenney outlines ‘fair deal’ and warns Ottawa of Alberta separatist sentiment Equalization payments and why Alberta doesn’t get them: We’re rich, expert says Vince Calderhead, a human rights and constitutional lawyer based in Halifax, N.S., said for the constitution to be amended would take significant support from most provinces. Legally, a referendum “would have zero impact,” he said. Get more of today's top stories in your inbox Get up to speed on everything happening in Edmonton with our Morning Headlines newsletter. Sign Up Now “It’s like saying, ‘What’s your opinion about Tim Hortons doughnuts?’ ” For an open and honest referendum to take place, the Alberta government would have to outline the extremely complex amending formula that would be needed to rewrite the constitution, he said, adding that would be “very impractical.” Calderhead also explained that there’s nothing written into the constitution saying that other provinces can’t be against the economic interests of another province and it’s not grounds for a revamp of the rules. “Those are fair sort of political points or ethical points, but they have zero relevance in the legal world,” he said. Beland said he found it ironic that Kenney was in Stephen Harper’s Conservative government when the formula was last changed. Trudeau recently signed off on the formula again, but it remains the same as it was under Harper. “When Jason Kenney was a federal minister, equalization was OK; now it’s the same program with the same formula, but now it’s really bad,” he said. However, he noted that it makes sense that a federal leader wouldn’t want to harp on equalization too much. “Bashing equalization if you’re a federal leader is political suicide, at least in four or five provinces,” Beland said, referring to Quebec, Manitoba and Atlantic Canada, provinces that typically receive the transfer payments. In Red Deer, during Alberta’s election campaign, Kenney also appeared to misrepresent to voters how a constitutional referendum would work. “We are going to make it very clear to Prime Minister Trudeau that if we do not get the completion of a coastal pipeline, we will give Albertans an opportunity on voting to remove equalization from the Canadian constitution,” he said to a wave of applause and cheers at a campaign stop last March. But it’s impossible for one province to dictate a rewrite of the country’s constitution, said Beland, and furthermore, a referendum wouldn’t give Kenney anything other than a piece of paper to wave at Ottawa. “It’s political science fiction,” he said. https://www.thestar.com/edmonton/2019/08/20/albertas-equalization-referendum-political-science-fiction-experts-say.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 15 hours ago, Warhippy said: Hahahaha Breathe Hahahahahahahahahaha If you can't laugh at this you take life to seriously and are probably a Leafs fan Hah just came to post this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 hours ago, gurn said: you get what you elect: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/notley-kenney-has-betrayed-albertans-to-fund-a-dollar47b-corporate-handout/ar-AAJzxuD?ocid=spartandhp " Editor’s note: The opinions in this article are the author’s, as published by our content partner, and do not necessarily represent the views of MSN or Microsoft. The budget presented by Premier Jason Kenney and the UCP will force every single Albertan to pay for his $4.7-billion no-jobs corporate giveaway. This budget will extract more in personal income taxes from every Albertan by disconnecting the tax code from inflation. This is a shocking betrayal of Jason Kenney’s central campaign promise. The Canadian Taxpayers’ Federation blasted the move as a “hidden, sneaky tax.” Jason Kenney himself denounced this technique as a tax increase when he led the CTF. It’s a sneaky tax that will pull $600 million out of individual Albertans’ pockets. And then there are the cuts. Spoiler All Albertans will pay more to register their cars and campers, more for home and car insurance, electricity, school fees, even visits to provincial museums. Students will see their tuition costs skyrocket by 21 per cent over three years, and their parents won’t be able to apply those costs against their taxes anymore. That’s a tax increase. More than 46,000 older Albertans will be kicked off the Seniors Drug Benefit Program, and income testing will be introduced for those who stay through that first purge. Those are families on fixed incomes that will have to find the money elsewhere to pay for the medication they need. Jason Kenney has also targeted some of the most vulnerable for the deepest cuts. Severely handicapped Albertans will immediately lose $30 a month in benefits, rising to $120 a month by 2023. As many as 165,000 families living just above the poverty line will lose part of their child benefits, and 55,000 families will lose them entirely. Almost $100 million in housing and rental support has also vanished. There’s no doubt that these decisions will push thousands of Alberta children into poverty, and some families into homelessness. This budget breaks a range of promises made by Jason Kenney and his government. He promised education funding would keep pace with a growing student population. Promise broken — this budget provides $200 less for each student than last year. He promised health spending would keep pace with population growth. Promise broken — this budget takes money out of hospitals, out of our ambulance system, and out of our diagnostic imaging and lab testing system. Our government began the planning work on a badly needed redevelopment of the Red Deer Regional Hospital. Jason Kenney cut all of that planning money, and the hospital work has stopped. Incredibly, there is no significant new funding for rural police, let alone the 500 new officers he promised. This budget has a one-time $9-million increase — less than the NDP committed to rural crime — and then quickly drops rural police funding to below 2018 levels. In a few months, Jason Kenney will be spending less on rural policing than our government did. Albertans should not forget that one of Jason Kenney’s first acts as premier was to max out the province’s credit card on a $4.7-billion giveaway to the largest and most profitable corporations. We know this money has already been distributed to corporate shareholders without creating a single job. More than 27,000 Albertans have lost their jobs on Jason Kenney’s watch. This budget does nothing to get them back to work. Budget 2019 simply forces every Albertan to pay for Kenney’s corporate handout. NDP Leader Rachel Notley is the head of the official Opposition in Alberta. 5 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: Here's a good article on why Kenney's "referendum" is such a flawed idea. Its a very good example of how Kenney stokes and uses Alberta anger. This is also the point of this thread, showing examples of how Albertans are the one's being used and played for Kenney's political endeavours. This is just going to leave Albertans that much more frustrated and angry, for no gain whatsoever. EDMONTON Alberta’s equalization referendum ‘political science fiction,’ experts say By Kieran LeavittStar Edmonton Tues., Aug. 20, 2019timer4 min. read EDMONTON—Experts say that Alberta Premier Jason Kenney is using a referendum on equalization as a political weapon to strong arm Ottawa, but that in the end, the vote would be an expensive piece of theatre that holds no legal implications. Spoiler Kenney and Quebec Premier François Legault butted heads this week over equalization. The two premiers clashed after Legault said that equalization was part of the original constitution in Canada and that his province was owed that money. The formula was actually drawn up in 1957 and has changed significantly since. Alberta receives no federal transfer payments and Quebec currently receives about $13 billion. In a statement Monday, Kenney refuted several points made by Legault, then reiterated his intention of holding a referendum vote on the constitution which enshrines the system of equalization. The crux of Kenney’s position is the fact that Albertans don’t receive the payments and contribute a lot to them, while provinces like Quebec do receive the payments, but their governments also raise opposition to Alberta’s development of energy resources. “Our call for a fair deal in the federation simply means this: If Ottawa and other provinces want to benefit from Alberta’s resources, then they must not oppose the transport and sale of those resources,” Kenney said in a statement on Monday. He then said his government was ready to hold “a referendum on Section 36 of the Constitution Act — the principle of equalization — if we do not see substantial progress on coastal pipelines and a repeal of devastating policies like Bill C-69, the ‘No More Pipelines Act.’ ” Daniel Beland, a professor at McGill University and equalization expert, said a referendum would likely cost Alberta taxpayers several million dollars only to amount to “a big show” since it wouldn’t have any legal effect. YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN... B.C. manhunt suspects recorded final message on phone found with bodies, family says Ontario to end funding for ‘inappropriate’ medical procedures “It’s a pretty clever political strategy in a way, because it’s also to make this claim that there is a relationship between equalization and environmental and energy policy, which is not the case concretely,” he said. That referendum would take place in October 2021, long after the next federal election is slated to take place this October, with a chance that the federal Conservatives could take power from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals. Kenney has acknowledged in the past that the referendum’s aim isn’t to amend the constitution or do away with equalization — simply to bring the conversation onto the national agenda. But political observers have criticized his rhetoric as misrepresenting what a referendum could really accomplish. Equalization is a complex formula written into the Canadian constitution. It sets a baseline for how well a province is doing economically and if it falls below that threshold, it can start receiving federal transfer payments through the equalization program. There’s about $20 billion in federal revenue attached to the program. People are often confused about where this money comes from, Beland said, explaining that Canadians as individuals pay taxes into the federal government’s general revenue stream. Equalization payments stem from that, not from bags of money Alberta hands over to the federal government. Beland noted that Albertans are the wealthiest Canadians in the country and said they end up paying more because they make more. But he also said that Kenney appears to hang many of Alberta’s grievances with the federal government on equalization, citing examples such as the lack of oil pipelines, a carbon tax and the economy. YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN... A small Alberta city is home to the busiest drug consumption site in North America. We spent 12 hours inside Elton John is wrong. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are hypocrites As for a referendum on equalization, “It’s really an agenda setting device,” said Beland. “It’s not in and of itself a constitutional tool.” RELATED STORIES Alberta and Quebec have little chance of pipeline compromise Jason Kenney outlines ‘fair deal’ and warns Ottawa of Alberta separatist sentiment Equalization payments and why Alberta doesn’t get them: We’re rich, expert says Vince Calderhead, a human rights and constitutional lawyer based in Halifax, N.S., said for the constitution to be amended would take significant support from most provinces. Legally, a referendum “would have zero impact,” he said. Get more of today's top stories in your inbox Get up to speed on everything happening in Edmonton with our Morning Headlines newsletter. Sign Up Now “It’s like saying, ‘What’s your opinion about Tim Hortons doughnuts?’ ” For an open and honest referendum to take place, the Alberta government would have to outline the extremely complex amending formula that would be needed to rewrite the constitution, he said, adding that would be “very impractical.” Calderhead also explained that there’s nothing written into the constitution saying that other provinces can’t be against the economic interests of another province and it’s not grounds for a revamp of the rules. “Those are fair sort of political points or ethical points, but they have zero relevance in the legal world,” he said. Beland said he found it ironic that Kenney was in Stephen Harper’s Conservative government when the formula was last changed. Trudeau recently signed off on the formula again, but it remains the same as it was under Harper. “When Jason Kenney was a federal minister, equalization was OK; now it’s the same program with the same formula, but now it’s really bad,” he said. However, he noted that it makes sense that a federal leader wouldn’t want to harp on equalization too much. “Bashing equalization if you’re a federal leader is political suicide, at least in four or five provinces,” Beland said, referring to Quebec, Manitoba and Atlantic Canada, provinces that typically receive the transfer payments. In Red Deer, during Alberta’s election campaign, Kenney also appeared to misrepresent to voters how a constitutional referendum would work. “We are going to make it very clear to Prime Minister Trudeau that if we do not get the completion of a coastal pipeline, we will give Albertans an opportunity on voting to remove equalization from the Canadian constitution,” he said to a wave of applause and cheers at a campaign stop last March. But it’s impossible for one province to dictate a rewrite of the country’s constitution, said Beland, and furthermore, a referendum wouldn’t give Kenney anything other than a piece of paper to wave at Ottawa. “It’s political science fiction,” he said. https://www.thestar.com/edmonton/2019/08/20/albertas-equalization-referendum-political-science-fiction-experts-say.html I honestly don't grasp, how in 2020, anyone still falls for this nonsense. Tax breaks to the rich/corporations and service cuts on the backs of the middle/working class while fomenting (impotent) anger to further their own political agenda (which you can be sure is to put even more tax dollars in their rich friends pockets at the expense of the middle/working class). No thanks! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: I honestly don't grasp, how in 2020, anyone still falls for this nonsense. Tax breaks to the rich/corporations and service cuts on the backs of the middle/working class while fomenting (impotent) anger to further their own political agenda (which you can be sure is to put even more tax dollars in their rich friends pockets at the expense of the middle/working class). No thanks! Cuz Pierre. Logic has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Ya? Well....I don't care about your pathetic facts from obviously left wing rags that don't know what they're talking about. I heard something once, I believe in another and in my opinion...so they're all wrong. #Albrexit baby and BC is totally coming with us so is Saskatchewan because of the same reasons I said I don't believe what you posted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Wow this thread is full of BCers obsessed with Alberta upvoting each other. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: Wow this thread is full of BCers obsessed with Alberta upvoting each other. Wow this thread is full of moderate individuals reacting to cry baby morons whose reaction to the election was to push Alberta separation from Canada because reasons. We're not obsessed with Alberta. We're just pointing out how moronic the Bloc Rednecios are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Wow this thread is full of moderate individuals reacting to cry baby morons whose reaction to the election was to push Alberta separation from Canada because reasons. We're not obsessed with Alberta. We're just pointing out how moronic the Bloc Rednecios are. No it's an obsession. Sorry. Funny you and I have different views on who the "cry baby morons" are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: No it's an obsession. Sorry. Funny you and I have different views on who the "cry baby morons" are. Well then pot, meet kettle. I would say you are obsessed with the woe is me we're being ripped off, Bloc Rednecios nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Well then pot, meet kettle. I would say you are obsessed with the woe is me we're being ripped off, Bloc Rednecios nonsense. Oh certainly I am. I live in Alberta though. None of you guys do but you go on about Alberta endlessly. The nonsense being posted isn't even about wexit lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Oh certainly I am. I live in Alberta though. None of you guys do but you go on about Alberta endlessly. The nonsense being posted isn't even about wexit lol So in a thread about Wexit, that involves Alberta, we shouldn't comment about Alberta because it makes us look like we are obsessed about Alberta? That's some grade A logic there. /S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, thedestroyerofworlds said: So in a thread about Wexit, that involves Alberta, we shouldn't comment about Alberta because it makes us look like we are obsessed about Alberta? That's some grade A logic there. /S Obsessed. It's clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Obsessed. It's clear. Nope, I care about CANADA and Alberta is part of CANADA. I think this Wexit crap is moronic. You don't. And I live in Northern BC, a place where there are a lot of morons whose ideals align with the Bloc Rednecios. Just because I post in a thread about Wexit that involves Alberta, does not mean I'm obsessed. Sorry, try again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Obsessed. It's clear. like Quebec in Alberta? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: No it's an obsession. Sorry. Funny you and I have different views on who the "cry baby morons" are. Yep. Who are they “pointing out” to? What is the purpose of this thread, what’s it trying to accomplish? It’s a hockey board and you got three different thread “crying” about Alberta. Other than finding a reason for a little circle jerk about their favorite province, this type of conversation is pointless. Again it’s like the friend that broke up with his ex and doesn’t shut up obsessing over how stupid his ex’s new BF is. If Alberta rattles you that much that you need to take your angst to a hockey board and post in not one but 3 different threads, you got some serious issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: So in a thread about Wexit, that involves Alberta, we shouldn't comment about Alberta because it makes us look like we are obsessed about Alberta? That's some grade A logic there. /S It's an interesting opinion. Guess Ryan got tired of arguing so "obsessed" is his way of replying without having to put much thought in. I'm definitely obsessed with politics . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Everyone is whining... it’s glorious ha ha ha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Duodenum said: It's an interesting opinion. Guess Ryan got tired of arguing so "obsessed" is his way of replying without having to put much thought in. I'm definitely obsessed with politics . There is no debating you guys are talking about Alberta budgets and policies lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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