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1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

so being lied to from Calgary is better? 

Atleast they pay better when their bending us over lol

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4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

because Harper said fu to BC first. 

So you just agreed it's an fu to Alberta. I never said Harper was right but Jt made it so it can never be negotiated or any future plans. So exactly what I thought you're only out to hurt Alberta, who essentially funds this nation because some politician went after your province.  You complain about us but gave the exact same reason why we're done.

 

Thanks, Jim. 

Glad we agree.

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6 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said:

That's why B.C stands for bring cash lol

Ok, even if you have blown through your oil money. There are still affordable places to live in BC and a lot are in gorgeous settings.

BC is made up of many great Canadians from all over. I don't play the us vs them stuff. I love all of Canada. 

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19 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Ok, even if you have blown through your oil money. There are still affordable places to live in BC and a lot are in gorgeous settings.

BC is made up of many great Canadians from all over. I don't play the us vs them stuff. I love all of Canada. 

Even Quebec?:picard:

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39 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

No way, we are too pretty.

 

BC is a wonderful part of Canada. All of Canada is welcome to come here and enjoy an amazing area of their home. Or retire, grab a piece of the best coast in the world and fish your worries away. 

Alberta has welcomed far more Canadians to come here and given them the ability to earn a very generous living. 

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4 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

I clearly answered it. Infact I answered before you asked it. Don't take this as an insult but you're a very childish man. Stop following me around it's pathetic. The question is answered if you can't read go get help. Find the fuel receipt?:lol:

 

You literally never answered.  At all.  it was and is a yes or no question.  That you have not answered.  your excuses as to why and your endless deflections show the kind of man you are and that's fine.  It also means that there's literally zero credible argument anyone will ever show you that will change your mind.

 

Trudeau, BC, anything you don't agree with or that goes against your beliefs='s bad

Anything you like or agree with regardless of actual fact='s good.

 

You choose to believe lies, misinformation and BS because it jives with your beliefs and that's fine.  the world is full of simple minded masses easily lead astray.  One more person in the mix won't be noticeable.

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6 hours ago, RowdyCanuck said:

My turn I asked about the japan rail system you were talking about.....would that system be able to handle the harsh winters of Canada ? The snow and ice I mean.....

 

 

First off.  Strome pretends to be an adult.  he can answer for himself, while I appreciate your willingness to answer on his behalf or for yourself.  it's his question to answer because it highlights his blatant hypocrisy and I'm a man who likes pointing out people being hypocrites and showing cowardice in the face of things that go against their belief structure

 

Second, regarding rail.  I know that Finland, Norway and the Nordic nations as well as Northern Japan all run rail through Arctic terrorizes including flat alpine plains, China runs through the Himalayan range as well.  Russia has numerous high speed rail lines that run seamlessly.  Running high speed rail through Lapland would be very similar to running across the plains here in Canada.

 

Here is a write up about rail use in arctic territories

 

https://www.hsrail.org/cold-weather-passenger-trains

 

When it comes to cold-weather innovations in passenger trains, China leads the way. The recently constructed high-speed line, capable of running at 217 mph, traverses some of the most uninhabitable climes on the planet. The corridor, running between Harbin and Dalian in northeastern China, sees temperatures ranging from 40 to -40 degrees Celsius. To meet this challenge China commissioned 22 reports and thousands of tests to guarantee the safety of the “ice-train” – the only-high-speed train of its kind. Some of the distinct features of this line are special snow and ice removing facilities to keep the power supply and signaling systems safe. Furthermore, China has introduced specially designed train sets for this corridor capable of withstanding the extreme temperatures. The CRH5A trains are based on Alstom’s Italian Pendolino trains, which can handle temperatures below -40 degrees Celsius.

 

In Europe, the Pendolino trains are key to making extreme cold weather travel possible. From the Alps to the edge of the Arctic Circle, these trains have revolutionized winter travel. Today Finland runs numerous high-speed lines, capable of reaching 140 mph using these trains. Routes stretch from Helsinki to Oulu in the far north and St. Petersburg in Russia. In Sweden, other high-speed trainsets can withstand temperatures of -35 degrees Celsius on the Stockholm-Ostersund route. Conventional Swedish trains operate in even more extreme temperatures deep in the Arctic Circle, on routes such as between Narvik, Norway and Kiruna, Sweden. Throughout Scandinavia, specially designed rolling stock connect communities that would otherwise be stranded for much of the year.

To connect Moscow with St. Petersburg, Siemens modified its Velaro train design to prepare for the harsh Russian winter. The new “Sapsan” trains include extra safety functions and were built with special-grade, cold-resistant steel and plastic. They also employ new technology that keeps passengers comfortable even in the worst winter conditions. By updating their existing technology to meet cold weather demands, Siemen successfully brought high-speed trains to Russia.

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2 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

Alberta has welcomed far more Canadians to come here and given them the ability to earn a very generous living. 

Alberta is Canada. 

As are all the provinces and territories.

The great Canada is the sum of it's parts.

 

...and Oui, even Quebec.

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3 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

So you just agreed it's an fu to Alberta. I never said Harper was right but Jt made it so it can never be negotiated or any future plans. So exactly what I thought you're only out to hurt Alberta, who essentially funds this nation because some politician went after your province.  You complain about us but gave the exact same reason why we're done.

 

Thanks, Jim. 

Glad we agree.

I think we do agree actually. Which is why I find it surprising that you seem to want to cling to a failed approach to pipeline projects. 

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20 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

You literally never answered.  At all.  it was and is a yes or no question.  That you have not answered.  your excuses as to why and your endless deflections show the kind of man you are and that's fine.  It also means that there's literally zero credible argument anyone will ever show you that will change your mind.

 

Trudeau, BC, anything you don't agree with or that goes against your beliefs='s bad

Anything you like or agree with regardless of actual fact='s good.

 

You choose to believe lies, misinformation and BS because it jives with your beliefs and that's fine.  the world is full of simple minded masses easily lead astray.  One more person in the mix won't be noticeable.

Again it was answered you and everyone else can clearly see I answered it. But I think forsberg showed you how stupid your question is and what you just said about me is you in a nutshell but what I really want to know is if you have me blocked like you say how do you see my post? Must be another lie like the fuel receipt

15 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Alberta is Canada. 

As are all the provinces and territories.

The great Canada is the sum of it's parts.

 

...and Oui, even Quebec.

OMG is that French or something?

14 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I think we do agree actually. Which is why I find it surprising that you seem to want to cling to a failed approach to pipeline projects. 

I know you want to hurt all Canadians because a politician did something you didn't like but yet you can't understand why the province that would be hurt the most by some of the decisions by another politician is angry about it in fact you and others laugh about it when it's Alberta that provides the comfy cozy Lifestyles that millions of Canadians enjoy

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21 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

First off.  Strome pretends to be an adult.  he can answer for himself, while I appreciate your willingness to answer on his behalf or for yourself.  it's his question to answer because it highlights his blatant hypocrisy and I'm a man who likes pointing out people being hypocrites and showing cowardice in the face of things that go against their belief structure

 

Second, regarding rail.  I know that Finland, Norway and the Nordic nations as well as Northern Japan all run rail through Arctic terrorizes including flat alpine plains, China runs through the Himalayan range as well.  Russia has numerous high speed rail lines that run seamlessly.  Running high speed rail through Lapland would be very similar to running across the plains here in Canada.

 

Here is a write up about rail use in arctic territories

 

https://www.hsrail.org/cold-weather-passenger-trains

 

When it comes to cold-weather innovations in passenger trains, China leads the way. The recently constructed high-speed line, capable of running at 217 mph, traverses some of the most uninhabitable climes on the planet. The corridor, running between Harbin and Dalian in northeastern China, sees temperatures ranging from 40 to -40 degrees Celsius. To meet this challenge China commissioned 22 reports and thousands of tests to guarantee the safety of the “ice-train” – the only-high-speed train of its kind. Some of the distinct features of this line are special snow and ice removing facilities to keep the power supply and signaling systems safe. Furthermore, China has introduced specially designed train sets for this corridor capable of withstanding the extreme temperatures. The CRH5A trains are based on Alstom’s Italian Pendolino trains, which can handle temperatures below -40 degrees Celsius.

 

In Europe, the Pendolino trains are key to making extreme cold weather travel possible. From the Alps to the edge of the Arctic Circle, these trains have revolutionized winter travel. Today Finland runs numerous high-speed lines, capable of reaching 140 mph using these trains. Routes stretch from Helsinki to Oulu in the far north and St. Petersburg in Russia. In Sweden, other high-speed trainsets can withstand temperatures of -35 degrees Celsius on the Stockholm-Ostersund route. Conventional Swedish trains operate in even more extreme temperatures deep in the Arctic Circle, on routes such as between Narvik, Norway and Kiruna, Sweden. Throughout Scandinavia, specially designed rolling stock connect communities that would otherwise be stranded for much of the year.

To connect Moscow with St. Petersburg, Siemens modified its Velaro train design to prepare for the harsh Russian winter. The new “Sapsan” trains include extra safety functions and were built with special-grade, cold-resistant steel and plastic. They also employ new technology that keeps passengers comfortable even in the worst winter conditions. By updating their existing technology to meet cold weather demands, Siemen successfully brought high-speed trains to Russia.

Oh shut up you are the biggest hypocrite on CDC since you joined. If you can't read that's your problem. Furthermore as was pointed out to you your question was stupid I noticed you didn't respond to that of course you didn't because you have no response tell us again about the national Democratic party LOL they must love voters like you you praise them every chance you get and you don't even know what their name is don't talk to anybody about politics you are literally a joke when it comes to politics

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2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Again it was answered you and everyone else can clearly see I answered it. But I think forsberg showed you how stupid your question is and what you just said about me is you in a nutshell but what I really want to know is if you have me blocked like you say how do you see my post? Must be another lie like the fuel receipt

OMG is that French or something?

I know you want to hurt all Canadians because a politician did something you didn't like but yet you can't understand why the province that would be hurt the most by some of the decisions by another politician is angry about it in fact you and others laugh about it when it's Alberta that provides the comfy cozy Lifestyles that millions of Canadians enjoy

I'll ask one last time.

 

Do you think it's fair that the UCP is asking private citizens to cover massive tax breaks for corporations that are still leaving the province.  Do you think it's fair that private citizens and municipalities have asked the provincial government for help collecting taxes and revenues owed but have been told that there will be zero help for them.  Do you think it's fair that services continue to keep getting cut but more money is being spent than in the previous 10 years?

 

yes

or

no

 

?

 

It was never answered.  I can dredge up your pathetic excuses for "answers" to a simple yes or no question but at no point in time will it show you have answered this simple question.  As for now, I've literally nothing to say to you.  You won't answer this time like you won't have answered before.  We know it, you know it.  you'll attack me again.  you'll insinuate something.  you'll cry and claim someone is a socialist.  You'll ignore it and claim someone loves or supports Trudeau.  you'll just outright state everyone hates Alberta.  You'll blame Canada.  Bills.  Laws.  But at NO time will you answer it and we both know it

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3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Oh shut up you are the biggest hypocrite on CDC since you joined. If you can't read that's your problem. Furthermore as was pointed out to you your question was stupid I noticed you didn't respond to that of course you didn't because you have no response tell us again about the national Democratic party LOL they must love voters like you you praise them every chance you get and you don't even know what their name is don't talk to anybody about politics you are literally a joke when it comes to politics

Make me shut up.  answer the question :)

 

You never answered my question and this is NOT your conversation to intrude on.  This is between me and Rowdy so see your way back to the kids table.

 

And much like I literally just stated, you trotted out the ol apple carts of obfuscation and degradation without ever actually answering the question you were asked again.

 

Now off to the kiddy table with you.  You can't make me shut up any more than you have the stones to answer my question and thus your own hypocrisy.


we both know you won't, you can't and at no point in time will you ever see anything wrong with that

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13 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

 

I know you want to hurt all Canadians because a politician did something you didn't like but yet you can't understand why the province that would be hurt the most by some of the decisions by another politician is angry about it in fact you and others laugh about it when it's Alberta that provides the comfy cozy Lifestyles that millions of Canadians enjoy

:blink: wut? 

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Just now, Jimmy McGill said:

:blink: wut? 

Do you remember the moment you started seeing your crazy old uncle really start losing his mind?

 

It's kinda like that

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27 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

First off.  Strome pretends to be an adult.  he can answer for himself, while I appreciate your willingness to answer on his behalf or for yourself.  it's his question to answer because it highlights his blatant hypocrisy and I'm a man who likes pointing out people being hypocrites and showing cowardice in the face of things that go against their belief structure

 

Second, regarding rail.  I know that Finland, Norway and the Nordic nations as well as Northern Japan all run rail through Arctic terrorizes including flat alpine plains, China runs through the Himalayan range as well.  Russia has numerous high speed rail lines that run seamlessly.  Running high speed rail through Lapland would be very similar to running across the plains here in Canada.

 

Here is a write up about rail use in arctic territories

 

https://www.hsrail.org/cold-weather-passenger-trains

 

When it comes to cold-weather innovations in passenger trains, China leads the way. The recently constructed high-speed line, capable of running at 217 mph, traverses some of the most uninhabitable climes on the planet. The corridor, running between Harbin and Dalian in northeastern China, sees temperatures ranging from 40 to -40 degrees Celsius. To meet this challenge China commissioned 22 reports and thousands of tests to guarantee the safety of the “ice-train” – the only-high-speed train of its kind. Some of the distinct features of this line are special snow and ice removing facilities to keep the power supply and signaling systems safe. Furthermore, China has introduced specially designed train sets for this corridor capable of withstanding the extreme temperatures. The CRH5A trains are based on Alstom’s Italian Pendolino trains, which can handle temperatures below -40 degrees Celsius.

 

In Europe, the Pendolino trains are key to making extreme cold weather travel possible. From the Alps to the edge of the Arctic Circle, these trains have revolutionized winter travel. Today Finland runs numerous high-speed lines, capable of reaching 140 mph using these trains. Routes stretch from Helsinki to Oulu in the far north and St. Petersburg in Russia. In Sweden, other high-speed trainsets can withstand temperatures of -35 degrees Celsius on the Stockholm-Ostersund route. Conventional Swedish trains operate in even more extreme temperatures deep in the Arctic Circle, on routes such as between Narvik, Norway and Kiruna, Sweden. Throughout Scandinavia, specially designed rolling stock connect communities that would otherwise be stranded for much of the year.

To connect Moscow with St. Petersburg, Siemens modified its Velaro train design to prepare for the harsh Russian winter. The new “Sapsan” trains include extra safety functions and were built with special-grade, cold-resistant steel and plastic. They also employ new technology that keeps passengers comfortable even in the worst winter conditions. By updating their existing technology to meet cold weather demands, Siemen successfully brought high-speed trains to Russia.

Okay ummmm hippie I jump in because RS and me share a similar stand and when I see three or more posters jump on him , why wouldn't I jump in?

I think you just a lil pissy cause I've painted you as a clown twice and your probably twice my age...... 

 

Sometimes hearing it from a different angle helps and people point out different things , I'm just trying to enlighten some people on how the oil industry isn't all evil but don't get me wrong , people on here enlighten me all the time and that's why I jump in. Also why I enjoy this forum. 

 

Okay so the train system will work but you talked about how they hang pipe systems underneath and that's kinda thought you would have brought it up since it would be a smarter way to ship oil..... 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

OMG is that French or something?

No OMG is an acronym for Oh My God.

 B)

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1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Do you remember the moment you started seeing your crazy old uncle really start losing his mind?

 

It's kinda like that

the part I find disturbing is the linking of identify between Albertans and the oil industry. Its like the Borg. 

 

the fact is Alberta has never taken a collaborative approach to the oil industry. The fight mentality is multi-generational and imo has got to the point where is harming Albertans the most. 

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4 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said:

Okay ummmm hippie I jump in because RS and me share a similar stand and when I see three or more posters jump on him , why wouldn't I jump in?

I think you just a lil pissy cause I've painted you as a clown twice and your probably twice my age...... 

 

Sometimes hearing it from a different angle helps and people point out different things , I'm just trying to enlighten some people on how the oil industry isn't all evil but don't get me wrong , people on here enlighten me all the time and that's why I jump in. Also why I enjoy this forum. 

 

Okay so the train system will work but you talked about how they hang pipe systems underneath and that's kinda thought you would have brought it up since it would be a smarter way to ship oil..... 

 

 

Strome and I have been back and forth for a long time.  Trust me he doesn't need your help, but when you do you give him the opportunity to either jump on your argument and claim some sense of superiority or to ignore the question or topic at hand.  When you intercede you give him an out.  For a guy who talks the way he does he certainly doesn't need that, he needs to walk the proverbial walk.

 

You and I are certainly not double a number in age I can assure you of that as much as I can assure you that I feel your claims of a sense of business acumen is a shade over stated

 

Hanging pipes/infrastructure is actually sensible and brilliant.  Japan does this via vaulted archways to avoid damage during earthquakes, floods and to save space in metro areas, China has also adopted this method as has Turkey.  it is called micro tunnelling or MUTs and helps to avoid overhead or shallow placement of infrastructure that could be damaged easily thus affecting large parts of the city or every day life.  The issue in these cities is the cost due to moving existing infrastructure, turning off these vital grids to move them and the general nuisance of shut downs.  Where as in Canada, starting with these MUTs and then building the rail above them would cut costs don incredibly.

 

https://books.google.ca/books?id=KuUtzTWzN-8C&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=japanese+utility+tunnels&source=bl&ots=p-HKObrs-g&sig=ACfU3U1Z-o7uVBlFU-qpTEe3YHKVrKDRyg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiUrYvvsaLnAhWQu54KHVS-DL0Q6AEwGnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=japanese utility tunnels&f=false

 

https://csce.ca/elf/apps/CONFERENCEVIEWER/conferences/2019/pdfs/PaperPDFversion_25_0422102711.pdf

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

the part I find disturbing is the linking of identify between Albertans and the oil industry. Its like the Borg. 

 

the fact is Alberta has never taken a collaborative approach to the oil industry. The fight mentality is multi-generational and imo has got to the point where is harming Albertans the most. 

Alberta and oil

 

vs

 

The rest of the nation and common sense.

 

it's like an abusive relationship, they don't see it as anything but us vs them anymore.  There is nothing you can say that will change their mind.  50+ years of doing the exact same thing is not their fault.  it's everyone else's.  We're not even going to mention the timeline of when actual transfer payments started, who funded the first 20-30 years of oilseeds exploration prior to major corporate investment post NAFTA or why the current system is set up the way it is.  It's just everyone else's fault and if you agree, you love trudeau, you're a socialist, you're part of the problem and you're just trying to harm Alberta because you hate it

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