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Not fair to pretend these guys are a Presidents Cup team , as they haven't proven it like our Best Teams ever did, but I see some similarities

I just found it interesting to see how our lineup today compares to that one (granted the game and style needed to win has changed since then too)

 

                                                                     Daniel                       Hank                       Samuelsson

                                                                  Raymond                      Kesler                        Burrows

                                                       Schaefer /Torres                     Lapierre                     Glass

                                       Tambellini/ Higgins/ Hansen                    Bolduc                     Desbiens/ Oreskovich 

 

 

                                                                                     Salo                         Bieska

                                                                    Hamhuis/ Edler                         Ehroff

                                                                                     Rome                       Tanev/ Albert

 

 

                                                                                                    Luongo

                                                                                                   Schneider

 

                                                                                                  Coach  AV

………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

 

                                                                     Miller                             EP                           Boeser

                                                                   Pearson                          Bo                            Motte/ Gaudette

                                                         Leivo/ Roussel                        Sutter                        Virtanen

                                                      Schaller/ Ferland                       Beagle                       Eriksson

 

                                                                                        Edler                          Myers

                                                                                       Hughes                       Tanev

                                                                      Fatenberg/ Benn                          Stecher

 

                                                                                                       Markstrom

                                                                                                       Demko

   

                                                                                                    Coach  Green

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5 minutes ago, Where's Wellwood said:

I would remove Schaefer, Tambellini, Bolduc, and Desbiens from the Best team and add Malholtra

This. Malholtra was huge as 3C

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Also Hammer was top pairing with juice. Very effective one at that . And come on , it was burrows with the sedins . 

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They're getting there, but one thing that team had over the current team is experience.

 

Give them a few years, and then I think it will be a fair comparison.

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30 minutes ago, Silky mitts said:

And come on , it was burrows with the sedins . 

how dare they mess up the legendary line!

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Danny, Hank, Kes, and Lou were the core of that team.  Who from that D was the core piece?  I see us having Danny, Hank, Kes, and Lou covered with the current young core guys, plus we have Hughes, which that 2011 team didn't.   Maybe this team is actually better, but plays in a tougher division that that old 2011 one?

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                                                                     Daniel                         Hank                       Burrows

                                                                  Raymond                      Kesler                      Samuelsson

                                                                     Torres                       Malholtra                   Hansen

                                                                       Higgins                   Lapierre                    Tambellni

 

 

                                                                               Hamhuis                         Bieska

                                                                                     Edler                         Ehroff

                                                                                     Salo                          Tanev/ Alberts/ Ballard

 

 

                                                                                                    Luongo

                                                                                                   Schneider

 

                                                                                                  Coach  AV





This year we have a much better bottom 6 than that team. Top 6 is almost there, but hard to give them an edge when you tak 40 goal Kes into account.

2011 defense much deeper but our defense this year is solid.

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Your lines for 2011 are completely out of wack. Not what they were. 

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26 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Danny, Hank, Kes, and Lou were the core of that team.  Who from that D was the core piece?  I see us having Danny, Hank, Kes, and Lou covered with the current young core guys, plus we have Hughes, which that 2011 team didn't.   Maybe this team is actually better, but plays in a tougher division that that old 2011 one?

Edler/Bieksa/Hamhuis imo.

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Iirc

 

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows

Raymond-Kessler-Samuelsson

Torres-Malhotra-Hansen

Higgins-Lapierre-Oreskovich/Glass

Tambellini

Bolduc

 

Edler-Ehrhoff/Salo

Hamhuis-Bieksa

Ballard/Alberts-Salo/Ehrhoff(only playing here if Alberts was on the L)

Tanev 


Luongo

Schneider

 

Our D was so deep. Imagine if Ballard played like he did before getting to Van... 

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12 minutes ago, Yung1 said:

Edler/Bieksa/Hamhuis imo.

Edler?  The other two are good players, but I wouldn't classify them as core (irreplaceable) 

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27 minutes ago, Yung1 said:

                                                                     Daniel                         Hank                       Burrows

                                                                  Raymond                      Kesler                      Samuelsson

                                                                     Torres                       Malholtra                   Hansen

                                                                       Higgins                   Lapierre                    Tambellni

 

 

                                                                               Hamhuis                         Bieska

                                                                                     Edler                         Ehroff

                                                                                     Salo                          Tanev/ Alberts/ Ballard

 

 

                                                                                                    Luongo

                                                                                                   Schneider

 

                                                                                                  Coach  AV





This year we have a much better bottom 6 than that team. Top 6 is almost there, but hard to give them an edge when you tak 40 goal Kes into account.

2011 defense much deeper but our defense this year is solid.

I read your post and I crave an ice cream cone.  

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19 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Edler?  The other two are good players, but I wouldn't classify them as core (irreplaceable) 

I would. were they replaced when they left?

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4 minutes ago, Yung1 said:

I would. were they replaced when they left?

They were old when they left, and easily replaced.  Core to me are players who are not replaceable, because they are not so easy to get.  Right now we have Petey, Bo, Bess, Hughes.  The rest of our guys, although good players, can be replaced.  From that 2011 team the Twins, Kess, and Loui were great and not replaceable.  Edler I think was not really a guy who was replaceable too.  As for Bieksa and Hamhuis, there were a lot of D men in the league at that time we could have replaced those two with.  

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1 minute ago, Alflives said:

They were old when they left, and easily replaced.  Core to me are players who are not replaceable, because they are not so easy to get.  Right now we have Petey, Bo, Bess, Hughes.  The rest of our guys, although good players, can be replaced.  From that 2011 team the Twins, Kess, and Loui were great and not replaceable.  Edler I think was not really a guy who was replaceable too.  As for Bieksa and Hamhuis, there were a lot of D men in the league at that time we could have replaced those two with.  

True that they were old by the time they left, but I'd argue their declined coincided with the decline of our team. 

Bieksa with a 40 point shut down defenseman with snarl. Extremely hard to find. Hamhuis was one of the best defensive defensmen in the league. We had the lowest GAA in the league with them as our shut down pairing. They were huge.

I would argue we still haven't replaced them, and that they were far superior to our current shut down pairing of Myers and Edler, who are the best performing shut down pairing we've had since 2012.

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This team is simply deeper. No disrespect to the 2011 team but they just had less cap space available to them.

 

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While they didn’t accomplish much, I still prefer the 2003 team as the most fun to watch.

 

Naslund - Morrison - Bertuzzi

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Klatt/Linden

Cooke - Chubarov - Linden/Letowski

Ruutu - Lindgren/Linden - Langdon/Linden

 

Ohlund - Malik

Jovanovski - Sopel

Salo - Baron

Allen

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