Bure2Win Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Our D was still better in 2011. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1994 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 14 hours ago, Alflives said: They were old when they left, and easily replaced. Core to me are players who are not replaceable, because they are not so easy to get. Right now we have Petey, Bo, Bess, Hughes. The rest of our guys, although good players, can be replaced. From that 2011 team the Twins, Kess, and Loui were great and not replaceable. Edler I think was not really a guy who was replaceable too. As for Bieksa and Hamhuis, there were a lot of D men in the league at that time we could have replaced those two with. Maybe, but as we know it comes at a big cost and Bieksa was pretty darn good - one year he actually led the entire league in 5 x 5 scoring - he managed 40 points with little to no PP time regularly, truculent and a leader as well. I’d consider him a core piece on that team, Burrows too - he helped the Sedins go over the top (only guy other then one season of Carter - that elavated that line and wasn’t on the PP enough to bump his stats like Kesler was). Get what your saying about replaceable, that said Sharp and Seabrook were largely considered core guys for CHI during their cup days...so we could re-frame a little and add home grown Burrows and Bieksa to our core from back then pretty easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 15 hours ago, 189lb enforcers? said: 1994 When I said best I am comparing it to the other teams in the league over the season This was the only time in Canucks history that they were the favorites in a final That team set a Canuck record of most wins, most points, most road wins, longest road winning streak They were the Northwest Division Champions, Western Conference Champions President Cup Champions They also boasted Art Ross Trophy Winner - Daniel Sedin (Henrik the year before, as well as the Hart Trophy) William M Jennings Winner - Luongo/Schneider Frank J Selke Winner - Ryan Kesler Gm of the Year - Mike Gillis Ted Lindsay Winner - Daniel Sedin No Other Canuck Team has achieved that over their peers in a season, so that is why I called them the Best As a Canuck fan one should rejoice in that team, Everyone was talking about the Canucks, It's when We are all Canucks was born, everyone was driving in the city flying Canuck flags, everyone wore Canuck jerseys, people on corners waving flags, Huge crowds in the streets watching the playoffs, it was a fun time I hope to see if another Canuck team can achieve that soon as it is the best feeling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) All good, that’s why we’re here. 1994 Tough, skilled, and balanced. Goalie was hot at the right time too. They would have demolished the Sedins and made Burrows their bitch, but whatever, nice trophy, 2011. I don’t mind if you feel 2011 was the best team, but in a playoff series, with no penalties... lol ... that ‘94 team would have destroyed them exactly the way LA did to basically the same team. Reminds me of this old one... Edited November 9, 2019 by 189lb enforcers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, 189lb enforcers? said: All good, that’s why we’re here. 1994 Tough, skilled, and balanced. Goalie was hot at the right time too. They would have demolished the Sedins and made Burrows their bitch, but whatever, nice trophy, 2011. I don’t mind if you feel 2011 was the best team, but in a playoff series, with no penalties... lol ... that ‘94 team would have destroyed them exactly the way LA did to basically the same team. Reminds me of this old one... But, I never said what my favorite Canuck team is though There is no doubt which Canuck team had the best season of all our teams in a single year I enjoyed 94 Canucks too, but they did not lead the league in any category that year, and I believe were something like 1000/1 odds to win? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 3:17 PM, shiznak said: While they didn’t accomplish much, I still prefer the 2003 team as the most fun to watch. Naslund - Morrison - Bertuzzi D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Klatt/Linden Cooke - Chubarov - Linden/Letowski Ruutu - Lindgren/Linden - Langdon/Linden Ohlund - Malik Jovanovski - Sopel Salo - Baron Allen Top forward line is definitely better but the Sedins were 40 point players at the time. Also, the right D and Goalies were trash with the 2003 team. The Sedins and Ehrhoff were a match made in heaven. Ehrhoff never reached the success he had with Sedins after leaving. Also points wise, the Sedins also regressed after Ehrhoff left. It was a lose lose situation. Our 2011 Defense was really good. That's what took us far in 2011. In 2010 we had a really good offense but lacked the D. The moment Gillis worked on improving the D it was night and day, and we went to the finals. It was the missing piece so to speak. The 2003 team had a good offense but it was really top heavy compared to the 2011 team which had a lot of depth scoring. The goaltending and Defence were miles ahead with the 2011 team so I still think they are the superior team when compared to the 2003 team, its not even close. I think this is why the 2003 team didn't accomplish much and the 2011 team did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Unknown1995 said: Top forward line is definitely better but the Sedins were 40 point players at the time. Also, the right D and Goalies were trash with the 2003 team. The Sedins and Ehrhoff were a match made in heaven. Ehrhoff never reached the success he had with Sedins after leaving. Also points wise, the Sedins also regressed after Ehrhoff left. It was a lose lose situation. Our 2011 Defense was really good. That's what took us far in 2011. In 2010 we had a really good offense but lacked the D. The moment Gillis worked on improving the D it was night and day, and we went to the finals. It was the missing piece so to speak. The 2003 team had a good offense but it was really top heavy compared to the 2011 team which had a lot of depth scoring. The goaltending and Defence were miles ahead with the 2011 team so I still think they are the superior team when compared to the 2003 team, its not even close. I think this is why the 2003 team didn't accomplish much and the 2011 team did. Hence why I said the most fun to watch, not necessarily the best. Although I do remember a game where they played the Senators at home and it was dubbed “a Stanley Cup” preview. They even brought the whole damn Hockey Central panel (Kypreos, Millard, Dreger) to GM Place, to do coverage for the game. When was the last time they did that? That team made every single game, whether it be a 7-2 blowout or a tight 2-1 game, exciting to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Unknown1995 said: Top forward line is definitely better but the Sedins were 40 point players at the time. Also, the right D and Goalies were trash with the 2003 team. The Sedins and Ehrhoff were a match made in heaven. Ehrhoff never reached the success he had with Sedins after leaving. Also points wise, the Sedins also regressed after Ehrhoff left. It was a lose lose situation. Our 2011 Defense was really good. That's what took us far in 2011. In 2010 we had a really good offense but lacked the D. The moment Gillis worked on improving the D it was night and day, and we went to the finals. It was the missing piece so to speak. The 2003 team had a good offense but it was really top heavy compared to the 2011 team which had a lot of depth scoring. The goaltending and Defence were miles ahead with the 2011 team so I still think they are the superior team when compared to the 2003 team, its not even close. I think this is why the 2003 team didn't accomplish much and the 2011 team did. Sopel had a 37 then 42 point seasons. Baron was a shot blocking/hitting machine and was +13 with only 6 points. Malik was solid and +23 that season. The right side was far from trash that year wadr. Wasn't great but it wasn't trash either. Edited November 9, 2019 by canuck73_3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Can't compare until they this group gets us past game 7 of the SCF. Until then as much as I like the core we have now, they are still just potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptCanuck16 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 12:26 PM, ba;;isticsports said: Not fair to pretend these guys are a Presidents Cup team , as they haven't proven it like our Best Teams ever did, but I see some similarities I I prefer this comparison: Trevor Linden/ Bo Horvat Pavel Bure/ Elias Pettersson Geoff Courtnal/ Brock Boeser Sergio Momesso/ JT Miller Dave Babych/ Christopher Tanev Jyrke Lummi/ Alex Edler Kirk McLean/ Jakob Markstrom Gino Odjick/ Antoine Rousell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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