babych Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Squamfan said: he would have made more money if he was put on LTIR, luongo is clearly helping the panthers Sure - but he's under no obligation to ask to go on LTIR. 3 minutes ago, Borvat said: Lou makes his own decisions. He knew the consequences of his decision. He was unable to play any longer. He made his choice. I made mine. I am not mad at him. I am just calling the situation from my perspective. I choose to see it from the Canucks situation over Luongo and the Panthers. Bettman isn't worth the energy. Again - not fraud. Faking an injury to get cap relief is fraud. Lou retired and the teams were both assessed the cap penalty as per the CBA. After Lou retired he is free to seek employment anywhere he wants. Does it suck for us? Of course. Is it illegal? Nope. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I wonder if Luongo would've been invited to participate in the home opener to celebrate the 50th, if he didn't financially screw the Canucks. Some people want to retire this guy's jersey? Nervy of him years ago to complain and say his contract sucks. Does it really Lu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Squamfan Posted November 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2019 the dude cost us a cup by opening his month 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownky Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I wonder if Luongo would've been invited to participate in the home opener to celebrate the 50th, if he didn't financially screw the Canucks. Some people want to retire this guy's jersey? Nervy of him years ago to complain and say his contract sucks. Does it really Lu? I suspect the jersey retirement will not happen at this point. He's a Panther who mercenaried for us for an insane contract for a few years, then **cked off back home when he wasn't as good as his backup anymore. Who got traded. And then wasn't as good as his next backup at the time either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, babych said: Sure - but he's under no obligation to ask to go on LTIR. Again - not fraud. Faking an injury to get cap relief is fraud. Lou retired and the teams were both assessed the cap penalty as per the CBA. After Lou retired he is free to seek employment anywhere he wants. Does it suck for us? Of course. Is it illegal? Nope. Never said it was illegal. It is wrongful deception. He was unable to play with known chronic hip problems. He made his choice. He did seek employment - with the team that it directly benefited. I am not asking you to agree just like you have every right to your opinion. He didn't fake an injury - he chose not to use a real documented one as his reason to stop playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: I don’t think it’d be fair to ask Lu to look out for the Canucks ahead of the Panthers. However, just because Lu acted in his best interest, doesn’t mean there aren’t going to be raw feelings about it from Canucks fans. As to your other post about suing, I’m still baffled as to why Benning didn’t try. Maybe the league threatened reprisal if they did but outside of that, he shouldn’t have rolled over like that. It's for the same reasons that I said back then. Mostly because the Canucks agreed to the change in the rules that came with compliance buyouts, and partially because they'd be suing their own business partners which isn't worth the long-term blowback especially when there's 30 of them that will try and nudge you out for it. I just realized that I actually did respond to you earlier/quicker. That's what I get for multi-tasking/answering phone calls while typing... As for raw feelings, I'm not going to even pretend I'm more balanced. I'm still salty with Danny Briere and Chris Drury after over a decade. I'll likely hold that grudge until the grave. Theirs or mine, whichever comes first. Edited November 13, 2019 by SabreFan1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I wonder if Luongo would've been invited to participate in the home opener to celebrate the 50th, if he didn't financially screw the Canucks. Some people want to retire this guy's jersey? Nervy of him years ago to complain and say his contract sucks. Does it really Lu? there should be a luongo jersey burning night to celebrate him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hard to feel good for him here, he &^@#ed us capwise by straight up retiring. He did Florida a huge solid by freeing up that cap space and I'm convinced this was on the table before he decided to retire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted November 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2019 Time to retire the #1 jersey in Vancouver. Kirk MacLean deserves it. 1 1 2 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pears Posted November 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2019 Instead of blaming Luongo, shouldn’t we be blaming Bettman for screwing us once again? There’s literally no reason for us to have this penalty when he’s let other teams off the hook for bigger circumventions. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fanuck Posted November 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, SabreFan1 said: Just like a salty ex-gf/bf, CDC will now cry a salty river of tears because an attempt at cheating the system came back to bite the Canucks in the butt. Ummmm, the league approved and filed the deal when it was signed. How exactly is that trying to cheat the system? Please explain? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Fanuck said: Ummmm, the league approved and filed the deal when it was signed. How exactly is that trying to cheat the system? Please explain? Technically what the Canucks and others did wasn't against the rules at the time, but it was still cap circumvention (cheating the cap). The league screwed up by allowing those contracts. The NHL acknowledged their mistake by giving all teams 2 compliance buyouts. The Canucks chose not to use their buyout to avoid Luongo's cap-recapture. It was a gamble that Aquilini chose to take and he lost. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I don't care so much about the cap recapture as I did when he quit on this team because he couldn't wear his fancy vintage pads for the heritage classic. Best move Torts did when he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Should the league look into cap circumvention here? Luongo retires, while injured and still owed 3 million dollars. Now the Panthers hire him to a pseudo management role, and will likely pay him 3 million dollars. Hmmmmm. my thinking as well alf though given his history it is likely to be a 12 year back diving contract starting at 3 million and diving to 100k in the final season and he will moan about his bad contract in about 7 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) I'd like to say that this doesn't colour my view of Lu. But it does. On the bright side, Jim should offer this deal to Loui. Edited November 13, 2019 by Jimmy McGill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 He is dead to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: I don't care so much about the cap recapture as I did when he quit on this team because he couldn't wear his fancy vintage pads for the heritage classic. Best move Torts did when he was here. Torts... I can't hate him, his year got us Jake, Demko and Tryamkin. Plus that freak out vs Calgary was epic. &^@# you Harltey. #freeTorts Edited November 13, 2019 by Jimmy McGill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Torts... I can't hate him, his year got us Jake, Demko and Tryamkin. Plus that freak out vs Calgary was epic. &^@# you Harltey. #freeTorts Should've kept him for another year and tanked for McJesus lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, HerrDrFunk said: No one blames Luongo for signing the contract in the first place. It was signed in good faith at the time. It's literally the rest of it that people are bitter about it. Basically the nhl and everyone else who didnt think of it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Torts... I can't hate him, his year got us Jake, Demko and Tryamkin. Plus that freak out vs Calgary was epic. &^@# you Harltey. #freeTorts I dunno about epic. Unhinged, like a guy who didnt care if he was fired or punished by the league. When i think “epic” i think, rally your team to win despite adversity... not chasing another coach down a hallway yelling like an idiot about something as inconsequential as a face off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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