Squamfan Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Mackcanuck said: From the 2013 draft trade at that time it was a bad trade, we should have gotten more 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 13 hours ago, J-Dizzle said: Given the fact that (if I recall correctly) no goalie has ever fetched a first round pick, I think we did pretty well. Wasn’t Miller traded to STL for a first round pick? And Lehner to Buffalo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, Squamfan said: at that time it was a bad trade, we should have gotten more The other reported offer was from Edmonton for a their 7th, a 2nd, and a prospect. We would have still ended up taking Horvat most likely and I don’t see much value in that 2nd or the prospect they may have been offering at the time. People can complain all they want but good on Gillis for going after the player he wanted. That was the real value in this trade. The rest were just throw ins that amounted to very little in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Did Gillis say he was set on Horvat? Imagine we ended up with the Russian doing that trade. The question to think about though is would Schneider have been enough to make Oilers not get McDavid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Whale Tail said: The question to think about though is would Schneider have been enough to make Oilers not get McDavid. That’s what I’ve always wondered. So in a way, Gillis screwed us /s 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, DeNiro said: The other reported offer was from Edmonton for a their 7th, a 2nd, and a prospect. We would have still ended up taking Horvat most likely and I don’t see much value in that 2nd or the prospect they may have been offering at the time. People can complain all they want but good on Gillis for going after the player he wanted. That was the real value in this trade. The rest were just throw ins that amounted to very little in the long run. The trade was fine. But to defend it you don't have to say something that silly. The guy was an amazing goaltender we weren't trading him to Edmonton. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I feel sorry for Scheids he was a good soldier while in Van. I wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: I feel sorry for Scheids he was a good soldier while in Van. I wish him well. I feel like we build up to much warm feelings for players. If I'm playing NHL on ps4 he's gone long time ago. Haha But I'm the same way. I like CS. Edited November 19, 2019 by Ryan Strome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Squamfan said: at that time it was a bad trade, we should have gotten more That was the highest pick traded for a goalie, ever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 So... who won that trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Me_ said: So... who won that trade? At the time and years following, it looked like NJ won that deal. Cory Schneider put up incredible numbers and was considered as a Vezina candidate. Flash forward to today, you can say the Canucks won that trade with Bo Horvat as the Captain and leader of this team, putting up respectable numbers every year as a high-level 2-way center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Everyone who is dumping on Schneider has no idea how much a factor injuries play in how well a Goalie performs. And how challenging the position is physically. A Goalie has to be ready on an instant to stretch his muscles and joints into ridiculous positions... all while standing mostly statically in a cold rink in wet clothing... conditions which are a prime recipe for setting up strains and injuries. So many goalies suffer serious injuries and then aren't the same... look at Carey Price before and after his injuries.... not the same goalie. I could mention many others as well. That is why Goalies like Martin Brodeur were so amazing... this guy went on for years and years... always at the peak of his game... very few injuries. That is why Roberto Luongo was such a fanatic about his fitness regime... if you ever watched him doing his workout and stretches.... amazing what he would do to improve his flexibility and conditioning... that was one of the reasons he had such a lengthy career. Cory Schneider was a great goalie, but unfortunately for him, he didn't have the physical durability of some... and his hips were the weak point. Jumping all over him and suggesting he was a cr*p goalie is just stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said: Everyone who is dumping on Schneider has no idea how much a factor injuries play in how well a Goalie performs. And how challenging the position is physically. A Goalie has to be ready on an instant to stretch his muscles and joints into ridiculous positions... all while standing mostly statically in a cold rink in wet clothing... conditions which are a prime recipe for setting up strains and injuries. So many goalies suffer serious injuries and then aren't the same... look at Carey Price before and after his injuries.... not the same goalie. I could mention many others as well. That is why Goalies like Martin Brodeur were so amazing... this guy went on for years and years... always at the peak of his game... very few injuries. That is why Roberto Luongo was such a fanatic about his fitness regime... if you ever watched him doing his workout and stretches.... amazing what he would do to improve his flexibility and conditioning... that was one of the reasons he had such a lengthy career. Cory Schneider was a great goalie, but unfortunately for him, he didn't have the physical durability of some... and his hips were the weak point. Jumping all over him and suggesting he was a cr*p goalie is just stupid. Cory admitted he had a mental problem with anxiety. His issues were more mental, as with most goalies, than physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, 250Integra said: At the time and years following, it looked like NJ won that deal. Cory Schneider put up incredible numbers and was considered as a Vezina candidate. Flash forward to today, you can say the Canucks won that trade with Bo Horvat as the Captain and leader of this team, putting up respectable numbers every year as a high-level 2-way center. I think he was top ten but not a finalist. That was one year at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 2:41 PM, 250Integra said: At the time and years following, it looked like NJ won that deal. Cory Schneider put up incredible numbers and was considered as a Vezina candidate. Flash forward to today, you can say the Canucks won that trade with Bo Horvat as the Captain and leader of this team, putting up respectable numbers every year as a high-level 2-way center. I wonder how it's going to be when we flash forward another 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Bo for Schnieder anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 9:23 AM, Sean Monahan said: Wasn’t Miller traded to STL for a first round pick? And Lehner to Buffalo? Lehner was accompanied by Legwand (he was certainly the primary piece in that trade though) and I forgot about Miller. The Schneider trade was still unprecedented... getting a top 10 pick for a goalie is unheard of! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 3:24 PM, theo5789 said: This board went nuts even when we traded Forsling. You'd think people would get the point eventually. He'll end up with more games at the NHL level that the guy we acquired for him. Plus, he's still only 23 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: He'll end up with more games at the NHL level that the guy we acquired for him. Plus, he's still only 23 years old. He's played more already, but couldn't crack the Blackhawks weak defence, now in the AHL in Carolina’s system. Wasn't losing any sleep over that deal then and certainly not now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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