Guest Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Babcock would be a good fit, he won with DET and he could win with VAN Datsyuk - Pettersson Zetterberg - Horvat Lidstrom - Edler Rafalski - Hughes Franzen - Boeser Holmstrom - Virtanen Matthews - pants dropper Marner - greedy with attitude Nylander - greedy and lazy with attitude Tavares - backstabbed his former team to play at home Rielly - okay, he's good come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I think Babcock already had his "bye bye" speech ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: @SabreFan1 Would the Sabres be interested in Babcock? Great young core of players, but not sustaining their winning. Sabres hired Kruger this year, so that would look pretty at odds with the message from management. The Canucks on the other hand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Alflives said: Core guys in TO refuse to play a 200 foot game. Our core guys are all committed to play the right way. Babcock is a proven winner when he has key core players who are hyper compete, and willing to play the right way. Which core guys? Marner is utilized on the PK, so he certainly trusted for his two way game. Tavares is generally a leader in faceoffs and while not noted for his defensive game, I find it hard to believe that he is poor defensively to be depended on for that much faceoff duty. Matthews and Nylander maybe not so much, but many teams have players like this and are still effective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The misery will continue with this new inexperienced coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Which core guys? Marner is utilized on the PK, so he certainly trusted for his two way game. Tavares is generally a leader in faceoffs and while not noted for his defensive game, I find it hard to believe that he is poor defensively to be depended on for that much faceoff duty. Matthews and Nylander maybe not so much, but many teams have players like this and are still effective. The TO core guys’ offence dries up when the try to play the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: He won with Detroit 12 years ago. He has since failed with two teams. Sure he's won various tournaments with a stacked team of the best available players. The Canucks aren't yet that team. What if he came to Vancouver and for some reason took a dislike to Horvat or Boeser or tried to get Petey to play a different way. Would you want him then? Green lost in the Memorial Cup finals with Portland (AHL). He also took the Comets to the Calder Cup finals and lost. I think Green is a good coach for the kids, he helps to develop and maybe even mentor. But managing a big boy NHL team to a championship? I can't see it. Babcock has proven himself and he seems to have the most success coaching a willing team of character players. Probably why it didn't work out in TOR. Maybe he is a tough coach, nothing wrong with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, HKSR said: I don't expect any team to NOT dump and chase. All I know is Babcock's teams focus in on skill and puck possession. Something this Canucks team was doing well earlier this season. Green as a player and as a coach emphasizes board battles. You can see that clearly game after game. Unfortunately, our top 2 players (Petey and Hughes) don't benefit much from that kinda play. Board battles are crucial come playoff time. We lose Motte and Ferland which hinders that game. Roussel would also help. Being down two solid centermen in Sutter and Beagle hasn't helped. We have been playing games with 5 dmen at times, so surely some guys are playing banged up. IMO this isn't a coaching problem. Green may not be the best in the business, but he's far from being a major issue worthy of a major change right now. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Jaimito said: If Green can take turn the nux around, I say we dump him and get a proven NHL coach. If this is what you say, you might be advised not to say it here. (Maybe it's a typo; otherwise...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, -AJ- said: Seattle should snatch him. Would be a breath of fresh air after the pressure chamber that is Toronto. you think Detroit was a tea party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: Babcock would love our young core guys. Our young core guys are all hyper competitive, and play the right way. I don't for a minute doubt the young core guys are competitive and try to play the right way. There is no way of knowing who Babcock might take a dislike to. We know about Mike Commodore's experience and Jason Spezza's treatment, so who really knows. I am just wondering how fans would react if Babcock DID take a dislike to one or more of the players we all love. Would we side with the coach, or the player? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: The TO core guys’ offence dries up when the try to play the right way. So when they aren't scoring, that means they're playing the right way? Maybe screw playing the right way then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, nucklehead said: you think Detroit was a tea party? Compared to Toronto, yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 It’s funny watching all the talking heads turn on Babcock. Button now saying it was time for him to go...these are the same guys praising the all mighty when they signed him and were planning the Stanley cup parade already!...We think we have bandwagon issues here in CDC...man we got nothing on TSN haha. Bunch of Leaf media spin doctors...wow! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Kushman said: Its a bold move that I don't see benning doing at this point (unless we get blown out again in the next few games), especially considering the ridiculous unwarranted contract extensions given to the assistant coaches (except Ian Clarke, he deserves every penny). You might consider Manny as deserving also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The Cock to Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Attila Umbrus said: It’s funny watching all the talking heads turn on Babcock. Button now saying it was time for him to go...these are the same guys praising the all mighty when they signed him and were planning the Stanley cup parade already!...We think we have bandwagon issues here in CDC...man we got nothing on TSN haha. Bunch of Leaf media spin doctors...wow! Button actually turned on Babcock right at the beginning of the season when he scratched Jason Spezza in the season opener against his old team, Ottawa, purportedly because Spezza's penalty killing wasn't up to scratch. "Mitch Marner kills penalties. John Tavares kills penalties. (Alex) Kerfoot kills penalties," Button said. "I’m going to be really straightforward here, that is an unacceptable rationale for scratching Jason Spezza." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Babcock got fired ha ha....predictable. Never thought he would last. Don’t think there has ever been a coach that has leveraged more for one Stanley cup in the history of the NHL then him. “Gotta skate. Gotta push hard. Gotta get me a huge contract blah blah blah”. Trotz is the best coach in the NHL now - he wins a cup with WSH and they offer him peanuts in comparison. Then he goes to a Tavares-less NYI team and turns them into a defensive force. Two years in a row - with virtually NO big names. Except for Barzal maybe. Doubt Babcock is capable of the same. Absolutely want to come nothing to do with him, will take a while to get the Leaf stink off of him - no thanks. Watch their new coach turn things around in short order - and he’s really not much different then TG was when he was promoted. Maybe they think they have a Berube situation on their hands. They DO NOT. The Canucks will win a cup before they do. If TG gets fired so be it. Would much rather our team goes out and finds a coach that would suit us then pick up a recycled bobble head. “We compete, we get pucks blah blah blah” he’s a meme worthy sound bite that’s for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, theo5789 said: So when they aren't scoring, that means they're playing the right way? Maybe screw playing the right way then. They do give up playing the right way, and they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: I don't for a minute doubt the young core guys are competitive and try to play the right way. There is no way of knowing who Babcock might take a dislike to. We know about Mike Commodore's experience and Jason Spezza's treatment, so who really knows. I am just wondering how fans would react if Babcock DID take a dislike to one or more of the players we all love. Would we side with the coach, or the player? The player - unless it’s LE in which case perfect harmony. He’s NOT the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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