Odjick the Warrior Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, xereau said: Keller or something needs to go to TO. Coyotes won’t trade Keller plus he has a huge deal starting next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 So very rare..you only see this kinda' sell-off, Once in a Blue Moon! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Why are the Coyotes taking the cap dump of Nylander though? Is there franchise really going to be saved by AM? They might have AM, but after giving up OEL they are going to start losing a lot more than they are winning. OEL is actually a more important player to winning games than AM is. Oh agreed that OEL is more important for Arizona in terms of winning but this whole trade for Arizona is to get that star player to sell tickets and to be in the hunt for the playoffs every year. OEL has been on the Coyotes for a long time and he isn’t selling tickets and the team is not on solid financial ground with them maybe even moving to Houston in the future, so the Coyotes need the local kid to be the face of the organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Had to bump my trade Matthews proposal, OP. A yr ago many posters here were wiser than that idiot Dubas will ever hope to be. Kid's got no character, flair or charisma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Ekman-Larsson ?? he just signed a new contract and has a nmc to boot exactly how can he be moved? not sure why people keep insisting on including in trades players with nmc they mean something and were negotiated people pretend they have little to no value at least explain how the nmc is addressed if such a player is included in a trade don't just avoid dealing with this important issue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVA-1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: Why not? Explain they get their cap fixed, young scoring wingers and stud defense OEL which is the player the Leafs have been looking for since Kaberle left. 1- OEL-Doesn't want out of Arizona,( at least haven't heard anything). I have heard he loves it there. 2- Raanta- Too much for a back up 3- Stepan- MEH!, dime a dozen 4- Hayton- Way to early to know what you got 5- Crouse- Love to have him but way to unproven yet. 6- I honestly don't think Tor. would move both Matthews and Nylander....1 maybe?? Hope this shows my point well enough for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) coastal.view; Arizona would only trade OEL for a Mathews type player and I’m sure the Coyotes would talk him into the trade by saying in Toronto he would be contending for a cup for the next 3-4 years with this trade and all the East Coast media would most definitely give him the Norris if he does in Toronto what he’s been doing in Arizona. Edited November 22, 2019 by IjustNEEDaTROYgamble Forgot posters name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: coastal.view; Arizona would only trade OEL for a Mathews type player and I’m sure the Coyotes would talk him into the trade by saying in Toronto he would be contending for a cup for the next 3-4 years with this trade and all the East Coast media would most definitely give him the Norris if he does in Toronto what he’s been doing in Arizona. really? laffs will be contending for a cup??? really??? you gonna lie to Ekman-Larsson ?? he's not stupid why would he go to the laffs unless he got some premium value added to his contract like every other laff player has managed why would he want to play in toronto? have you lived there in the winter? have you lived in arizona during the winter? is there a difference? coyotes have a better future as a team then toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, coastal.view said: really? laffs will be contending for a cup??? really??? you gonna lie to Ekman-Larsson ?? he's not stupid why would he go to the laffs unless he got some premium value added to his contract like every other laff player has managed why would he want to play in toronto? have you lived there in the winter? have you lived in arizona during the winter? is there a difference? coyotes have a better future as a team then toronto Because OEL has never played with a Taveres or Marner type player or had a top tier d partner in Morgan Reilly and those teammates would be way better any other teammates he had in the desert. Yeah I know the difference in weather but Arizona is also where Stanley Cup dreams go to die and I would think he would give up the sun for a chance at glory and to be hockey god as Toronto needs a player just like him to do damage in the playoffs. I’m not even a Leafs fan, in fact I hate them but this helps both teams in the now and the future. Edited November 22, 2019 by IjustNEEDaTROYgamble Spelling mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Why don't they just swap roster-for-roster? That'd be a super blockbuster! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: but Arizona is also where Stanley Cup dreams go to die And Toronto isn't? LOL I'm going to guess that the Coyotes win a cup before the Leafs win their next one, whether they are still in Arizona or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BrockBoester said: And Toronto isn't? LOL I'm going to guess that the Coyotes win a cup before the Leafs win their next one, whether they are still in Arizona or not If the Coyotes don’t get a face of the franchise type of player or make a deep run in the playoffs then they won’t be around in Phoenix and that’s why they do this deal. Atleast the Leafs make the playoffs not like the Coyotes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BrockBoester said: And Toronto isn't? LOL I'm going to guess that the Coyotes win a cup before the Leafs win their next one, whether they are still in Arizona or not Seriously, it a team's number one intention is winning, no way are they trading OEL (and his contract) for AM (and his contract) even straight across. If the Coyotes are just trying to sell tickets then I could see them doing this. However, they will lose more games as a result of that trade. So, are the Arizona fans even aware of who Matthews is? Maybe fans down there just don't get hockey, and don't care enough about the team regardless of a local boy being the team's leader? I just see this trade being one the Leafs would jump on, and the Coyotes lose big time. Plus, the Coyotes are even expected to take Nylander as a cap dump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Seriously, it a team's number one intention is winning, no way are they trading OEL (and his contract) for AM (and his contract) even straight across. If the Coyotes are just trying to sell tickets then I could see them doing this. However, they will lose more games as a result of that trade. So, are the Arizona fans even aware of who Matthews is? Maybe fans down there just don't get hockey, and don't care enough about the team regardless of a local boy being the team's leader? I just see this trade being one the Leafs would jump on, and the Coyotes lose big time. Plus, the Coyotes are even expected to take Nylander as a cap dump! I can see Nylander being a good player with Mathews and Kessel in the desert and without 5 million people in the Greater Toronto area telling him he sucks and dogging him for a contract Dubas gave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: I can see Nylander being a good player with Mathews and Kessel in the desert and without 5 million people in the Greater Toronto area telling him he sucks and dogging him for a contract Dubas gave him. Considering Nylander’s contract, and soft play, he does suck though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Considering Nylander’s contract, and soft play, he does suck though. I would never have given him $7 million a year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: I would never have given him $7 million a year At 4.5 per he’s a good value player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Dubas seems to be like the kid who is driving his dad’s Benz but gets into a fender bender and doesn’t know how much it costs to fix it and gets taken advantage of by the body shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllOursBoys Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Is it only on CC that one can login in an find questionable trade proposals involving two teams - and neither of them are the Canucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 It's not that bad of a deal. If I were TO, and I just threw up a bit in my mouth typing that, I'd entertain a package involving AM and WN on the premise that AM will walk when he hits Free Agency so might as well maximize his value now, and WN is just bad for playoff hockey. I am not knowledgeable on Arizona's roster for a possible return but I would have to think Keller would be the focal point. Again if I was TO, , I rather use the cap tied in AM and WN to upgrade the D core - Tavares is still a good bonafide center to build around. I give this proposal 3.5 lit joints out of 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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