RowdyCanuck Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 from just looking threw these pages I've heard stories of crawford I didn't know and the sutters well I got nothin to say there.... but the part I don't get is didn't the captain talk to coach after this happen?and if so why is this coming out now if the team dealt with it behind closed doors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, gurn said: I love that quote. According to @smokes, the definition of freedom is being "allowed to leave the country". This explains why he refused to acknowledge in a previous discussion the inalienable rights that are given to every citizen in a free and democratic country. Apparently that doesn't mean much because of our squabbling politicians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingofsurrey Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, 10pavelbure96 said: Lol dont get me wrong. I understand the severity of it, but I tend to agree with the sentiment that this guy should have said something a decade ago... seems like hes wanting attention. 10 years ago he was a kid trying to make it as a pro athlete...... a very precarious situation to be in. To be labelled as a coach killer... anti team kind of a player would have been the end of his career instantly. It makes total sense for him to wait until his pro hockey aspiration were done... 10 years later makes total sense. 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, 10pavelbure96 said: Lol dont get me wrong. I understand the severity of it, but I tend to agree with the sentiment that this guy should have said something a decade ago... seems like hes wanting attention. This is an honest question.......have you played at a high level? Jr A and up? Coaches and GM's have complete and unqualified control over a players career. One phone call about a bad atttitude and that can be it. AA had already tasted that in Jr when he stood up against hazing and he got hammered over it........is it surprising he wouldn't feel safe coming forward while he was still trying to have a career as a professional hockey player? 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said: 10 years ago he was a kid trying to make it as a pro athlete...... a very precarious situation to be in. To be labelled as a coach killer... anti team kind of a player would have been the end of his career instantly. It makes total sense for him to wait until his pro hockey aspiration were done... 10 years later makes total sense. Especially given there were already some questions after the Downie incident. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, BlueDragon23 said: 10 years ago or not, if it is in fact validated there is no excuse for that behaviour. The Flames need to do the right thing and fire him. Or if he has any dignity he should resign. I have zero tolerance for discrimination against people for cultural differences or their choice of lifestyle. Racism and Homophobia are still present as much as we try to ignore it. It’s just as much of a problem in sports compared to any environment like school or workplace. And this IMO is why we should encourage an openness in our society where everyone feels it’s safe to express their opinion. Then we can discuss differing views (like racist and homophobic ones) and educate those who have those beliefs. We are definitely not born racist, or hating others. That’s learned. And because it’s learned it can be unlearned. Or at least discussed. For Peters he needs to move on to a different job. He needs to listen to others and learn from them. If he does that’s great. If he chooses to be who he is now, that’s okay too. We know who he is. That’s what’s important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said: from just looking threw these pages I've heard stories of crawford I didn't know and the sutters well I got nothin to say there.... but the part I don't get is didn't the captain talk to coach after this happen?and if so why is this coming out now if the team dealt with it behind closed doors? The Blackhawks have claimed they were unaware this incident occurred and were not informed about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: from just looking threw these pages I've heard stories of crawford I didn't know and the sutters well I got nothin to say there.... but the part I don't get is didn't the captain talk to coach after this happen?and if so why is this coming out now if the team dealt with it behind closed doors? I think because of the Marner/Babcock situation. He probably felt it was the right time to share his story and try to help move the culture of hockey in a different direction. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 10pavelbure96 Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 Fair enough I never thought about it that way. I understand why he would keep quiet about it. 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Toews said: The Blackhawks have claimed they were unaware this incident occurred and were not informed about it. Smart play by the Hawks but I don't buy that...it happened in the locker room with people in there.... and the captain and the coached talked about it so I would say the ahl Gm knew atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, J-23 said: Some of the dumbest posts I’ve seen on CDC here. No $&!# eh. Brutal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, stawns said: I think because of the Marner/Babcock situation. He probably felt it was the right time to share his story and try to help move the culture of hockey in a different direction. Okay let me ask a dumb question....Simmonds and E Kane and Subban have along spoken about this over the years , we all knew about this going on in the game. The game has changed a lot and same with the culture but I agree what happens in the locker room should stay there(which I mean the press and fans don't need to know what's going on in there) these guys are all pros , so they should act like them and if a player has a problem go to the Gm or call the players board. So I guess my question is how does this change or benefit the NHL? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I haven’t looked back through the 20 pages but Treliving has to own some of this right? He hired a guy without a full coaching search. Claimed he was “his guy”. He didn’t know his reputation? Not just the racist remarks but the other things coming out? Come on man. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: Smart play by the Hawks but I don't buy that...it happened in the locker room with people in there.... and the captain and the coached talked about it so I would say the ahl Gm knew atleast. Going simply off the allegations, Aliu never complained to anyone and it was only addressed the once in a closed door meeting between the captain and the coach. Aliu does not mention anyone else being part of this discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, RowdyCanuck said: Okay let me ask a dumb question....Simmonds and E Kane and Subban have along spoken about this over the years , we all knew about this going on in the game. The game has changed a lot and same with the culture but I agree what happens in the locker room should stay there(which I mean the press and fans don't need to know what's going on in there) these guys are all pros , so they should act like them and if a player has a problem go to the Gm or call the players board. So I guess my question is how does this change or benefit the NHL? Perhaps shedding the light to unacceptable behaviors from Coaches will no longer be tolerated. And showing the newer generation of coaches that they will be held accountable to their past actions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Toews said: Going simply off the allegations, Aliu never complained to anyone and it was only addressed the once in a closed door meeting between the captain and the coach. Aliu does not mention anyone else being part of this discussion. Going another dumb question did peters stop after confronted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stelar said: I haven’t looked back through the 20 pages but Treliving has to own some of this right? He hired a guy without a full coaching search. Claimed he was “his guy”. He didn’t know his reputation? Not just the racist remarks but the other things coming out? Come on man. Maybe it’s time for the Flame’s owner to clean out his mess and get a new GM and coach? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: Okay let me ask a dumb question....Simmonds and E Kane and Subban have along spoken about this over the years , we all knew about this going on in the game. The game has changed a lot and same with the culture but I agree what happens in the locker room should stay there(which I mean the press and fans don't need to know what's going on in there) these guys are all pros , so they should act like them and if a player has a problem go to the Gm or call the players board. So I guess my question is how does this change or benefit the NHL? Because young kids are, literally, at the mercy of these guys in power positions and that power is often abused........severely in some cases. That's a chapter of the culture that needs to close imo. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, BPA said: Perhaps shedding the light to unacceptable behaviors from Coaches will no longer be tolerated. And showing the newer generation of coaches that they will be held accountable to their past actions. I agree but there could be some serious horror stories come out... times have changed a lot so what was acceptable in the 90s may not be acceptable now but the person didn't know any better at the time does that make him or her a bad person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BPA Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 I don't get why some are arguing 10 years is too long to air out grievances. It happened regardless of how long ago it was. Take it to the extreme where the Catholic priest abused boys. It took the victims 30-40 years to come forward. But is it too late to shine the light about past wrong doings?? It was a long time ago so suck it up buttercup?? If there is no discussion, then things will never change. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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