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[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Pittsburgh Penguins | Nov. 27, 2019

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Green is over his head. Twice this year they have blown huge leads late in the game and lost.  How many times has that happened to other teams this year? It's rare and very telling.

 

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24 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

I don’t think Green finishes the season here. I’m interested to see what he says in the post game presser, taking some responsibility for an irretrievably stupid decision would be a good start. Yikes. 

If I recall, and I am sorry of I get this wrong because I had a major concussion, the talk at the time to bring Green up was that he was a great development coach for us.  We are transitioning past that now, and a different coach may be prudent. I wanted them to bring Crawford back but I was not the one making decisions.

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Eddy played over 25 minutes in that game when we have a lead we are dead last in league at generating shots I wonder why Green

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Just now, canuck73_3 said:

And not ALL of the blame falls on the coach. Get over it. 

No, but we’d definitely be better of with a better coach.

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36 minutes ago, greenbean30 said:

Such a bad choke job.. Everyone's blaming Green, and he should take some blame for sure.. but the players need to take a lot of responsibility on that one.

So: fire the Canuck's team instead of Green and Brown ?!?

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Just now, jmfaminoff said:

If I recall, and I am sorry of I get this wrong because I had a major concussion, the talk at the time to bring Green up was that he was a great development coach for us.  We are transitioning past that now, and a different coach may be prudent. I wanted them to bring Crawford back but I was not the one making decisions.

Crawford is terrible. 

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1 minute ago, CptCanuck16 said:

I think it's time to start shopping Sutter. He's been with us going on 5 seasons and in the previous 4 he has only managed to dress for 57% of the games. He's a good player but he is too injury prone. I'd rather have someone that actually plays  utilizing that cap space at this point. As soon as he's healthy again he should be traded asap.

He's had a pretty solid season thus far, so he may actually have regained some of his value. Point is that we need our defensive specialist to be reliable, and Sutter most definitely isn't that. 

 

Basically, what we need is a version of Sutter that can actually stay healthy. 

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4 minutes ago, canuck2288 said:

Did they show that angle in the broadcast? 
 

I have it on pvr 

 

 

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Just now, Dumb Nuck said:

No, but we’d definitely be better of with a better coach.

Like who? 

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19 minutes ago, canuck2288 said:

So where are the Green supporters now?

 
- for some unknown reason he decides Demko is his number 1 goalie after Marky wins 2 in a row 

 

-he does not pull Demko after it was clear he was shaky (JG and Malkin goals were bad) and the team was collapsing. Instead he waits until the game was already tied 

 

- he challenges the offside then shakes his head like he knows he has no hope. Great poker player move. basically tells Toronto he knows it’s a good goal...and if he knew that he takes a 2 minute penalty 

 

Travis Green is not a good coach 

 

He demonstrated it tonight 

 

 

 

 

Marky was ill... 

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6 minutes ago, Johnny Torts said:

True but when we start tossing around names would you rather have those 5 in your lineup or Crosby... 

 

This is coming down to coaching, 110%, in my opinion.

Not as much as who's out. We're missing an entire NHL bottom 6. That's a pretty big blow. We have AHLers and young guys making them up to check a red hot Malkin's line and a Penguins team with a better winning percentage without Crosby. Our PK was top 5 with Beagle and Sutter and Ferland is still top 5 in hits on our team playing 12 games I think with Motte leading us in that department last year. We all know how good Roussel was before his injury.

 

You bring in a new coach with this soft of a lineup and this lack of defensive forwards in our bottom 6 we are still gonna lose a lot of games. Nobody to bring in spark our help the defensemen out. 

 

Not saying coaching hasn't been a problem but they're far from the main issue. If we start losing games like that with a full lineup consistently then fire the coach.

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1 minute ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

 

It's Green's job to make sure that the players are skating and putting the effort in. It's his job to utilize his timeouts and challenges effectively. It's his job to make sure the players are ready to start the game. It's his job to make sure the players aren't playing passive hockey. 

 

And assuming Green isn't the problem, what't the solution then? Get rid of all of the players that just happen to all be playing lame, passive hockey at the same time? 

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Just now, Cup2022 said:

Eddy played over 25 minutes in that game when we have a lead we are dead last in league at generating shots I wonder why Green

Yes that is on coaches

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1 minute ago, jmfaminoff said:

If I recall, and I am sorry of I get this wrong because I had a major concussion, the talk at the time to bring Green up was that he was a great development coach for us.  We are transitioning past that now, and a different coach may be prudent. I wanted them to bring Crawford back but I was not the one making decisions.

He was cheap filler while we rebuild, we now has some talent here, let’s get a talented coach.

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Just now, N7Nucks said:

Missing the point so I'll just let it go. Lol. 

No no, I get it lottery pick and all, but at least he (JB) showed Petey and Boes and Bo that he believes in them as the core by adding to their top 6 and not wasting another year barely making the playoffs.

 

Again, I think we have a playoff team if we had half a coach on the bench. 

 

St louis won the cup with a rookie goaltender after a coaching change, lets just wait to bottom out like they did though, before we let go of Green. Makes sense.

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4 minutes ago, HockeyHarry said:

it’s November and this team is young.

todays game is part of the Canucks growing up....they are still nhl mentally immature.
 

it’s called growing pains

Absolutely. We got dismantled by a very skilled and veteran laden team that has one time and time and again. Their youth are being led by bona fide legends. Our guys are still learning we have to give them time.

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I want to point fingers and blame people. I’m just so darn angry right now... 

 

No I’m not. It was one of those games. Looked like a young team out there with there top 2 defensive centres out to me. Playing against a hot Pittsburgh team.

 

Looking forward to beating the oilers this weekend.

 

Enjoy your crying guys. Have a good night

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9 minutes ago, Conscience said:

Free the offensive, dont bench our young talent and try to sit on a lead ffs.

The team tried to sit on a 1-1 tie, they routinely run Pearson and Leivo in crunch time, the PP game plan has exclusively been drop pass even when we have guy's that can skate like Hughes and Jake, and the defensive zone structure seems to be "5 men in the slot, wave your sticks and that's it". Nothing about this coaching staff surprises me. 

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2 minutes ago, Seinfeld said:

I understand it might be trying times for Boeser. But at the same time he has to do his job and play hockey. He half-asses so many plays. His poor effort level is very noticeable, especially when you see EP and Miller busting their ass every shift. 

I don't agree with trading him but i agree with the rest of what you said. 

 

I know he's slow, but he's not even skating hard out there, floating around and hoping for a pass from Petey. 

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