J.I.A.H.N Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Well, we have a couple of days between games, so I thought I would throw this out at you to fill in the time...…………. Please feel free to tear me apart, for my shenanigans! Here are the lines I propose for our up and coming games, and why I am proposing them...……... Line #1 LW Pettersson C Miller RW Gaudette...………………….18 minutes a game I think this line is better suited for the quick strike, as well as being heavier up the middle. Miller has a great FO% of 58.8%. This also frees up Pettersson to leave earlier out of the defensive zone, to create more offensive chances. Gaudette, who I see as a solid offensive player, with solid speed and tenacity, who would work well with Miller and Pettersson. Remember the 58.8 % FO percentage. Line # 2 LW Pearson C Horvat RW Boeser ……………………...18 minutes a game I think this evens the second line out better and Boeser can keep up with Horvat and Pearson. This line becomes a line 1b with multiple scoring threats. Far more offensive line-mates than Horvat has been playing with in combination. Horvat's FO % is 55.9 Remember that. Line #3 LW Roussel C Beagle RW Virtanen...…………………...15 minutes a game This is a great 3rd line, and should be considered a tenacious offensive line, who can start in any zone. Why Beagle? Well, Beagle does not get to play with many offensive line-mates, but shows a great penance for going to the net, when given the opportunity. Beagle has a very low offensive zone start percentage but given the chance, I think he could show well. Beagle has a 58.7 FO percentage. Virtanen is scoring at a 41 point rate this season, which put him in the low 2nd line/high 3rd scoring stats, league wide. Roussel and his never stop motor will give lots of opportunities for his line mates. Again, do not forget Beagles 58.7 percent FO %. Line #4 LW Leivo C Sutter RW Ferland……………...………..9 minutes a game This would be one of the best 4th lines in the league, with speed, scoring ability, defensive awareness, and decent weight (heaviness). This is a perfect spot for Sutter, where his reduced minutes, should keep him healthier. I would suggest Sutter 47.0 FO percentage would go up, being fresher with the reduced minutes Schaller LW/C/RW and Motte C/LW as your 13th and 14th players. Eriksson in Utica --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IMO, with the emergence of Gaudette as a bonified offensive threat with versatility, and the continuing elevation of Virtanen's game, I think we may have the ability to move players around a little and create 3 very offensive lines who will all benefit from each others pressure. IMO, our 4rth line is a very good 3rd line on a lot of teams. Overall, our FO percentage of our starting centers goes up considerably, and we should be able to run and gun with the best of them, which means we start out with the puck much more often OLD starting centers FO %..............Pettersson 48%, Horvat 55.9%, Gaudette 33.6%, and Beagle 58.7%,,,,,,,,,..average FO% = 49% NEW Proposed Centers FO% …….Miller 58.8%, Horvat 55.9%, Beagle 58.7%, Sutter 47.0%...…………………..average FO% = 55% Again, I think Sutter's FO % goes up under this scenario, and collectively our offense goes up, with out possession. By the very nature of our possession going up, it means our defensive zone time goes down, there by decreasing our goals against average ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flame away! Edited December 9, 2019 by janisahockeynut 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Flame away! flames suck 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pavelbure96 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Swap Sutter and Beagle imo. Looks good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, 10pavelbure96 said: Swap Sutter and Beagle imo. Looks good though Yeah, I thought about that but. Beagle just doesn't get that opportunity much, where as Sutter has had multiple opportunities to show his wears and really has not done that much with them...I mean he has been on every line over the years, including the Sedin's, Horvat and centering his own line, and really what has he done? I would like to see what Beagle can do with a more offensive scheme...…….there is also an almost 12% difference in FO%. I think I would rather have Beagle out there, than Sutter. It sure illustrates the differences in FO %. Colectively we are the 3rd best FO team in the league at 52.2%. The best team (Phili) is 54.3. My new suggested center's are at 55%...that is 55 for us, and 45 for them...…..I think that wins games...…….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 for the PP...maybe try Brock on the second unit to balance out the 2 lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I don't think splitting Petey and Brock is a great plan but I could see Gaudette on their wing with something like Jake-Bo-Miller on 2 and then Pearson-Sutter-Ferkland on 3 and a solid 4th line of Leivo-Beagle-Roussel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Miller takes a lot of draws as is. I don't see the need to move Petey to the wing when he's putting up 1ppg and Miller is killing it on Petey's LW. Also, Petey is a natural centre and needs to continue developing from that position. Having Mills there to take the FO pressure off him is a beautiful thing. That said, I'm all for trying Gaudette as EPs RW even though he's a natural C and has been looking very good, especially with Rooster and Jake. It's more that I'd like to see what Gaud can do on EPs RW, not that I think he should be on that line I love the 2nd line. Could swap Pearson with Ferky if Boeser is playing RW. Could handle Beagle in the 3 hole. But if we're having fun with lines Miller Petey Virt/Ferk Pearson Bo Boeser Rooster Gaud Virt/Ferk Leivo Beags Sutter Motte, Schaller Edited December 9, 2019 by luckylager 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Fun with lines... Petey Horvat Boeser Roussel Gaudette Miller Pearson Sutter Virtanen Schaller Beagle Leivo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I like the lines from the Sabres game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 51 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: Fun with lines... Petey Horvat Boeser Roussel Gaudette Miller Pearson Sutter Virtanen Schaller Beagle Leivo Petey on wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Ya lost me when I saw Pettersson on the wing. It seems we have another disgruntled Boeser posting at 28 points in 30 games. My lineup concerns are filling holes during injuries, otherwise when healthy Green has had great results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Since we having fun with lines Miller - Petey- Gaudette Roussel - Horvat - Boeser Ferland - Sutter - Virtanen Pearson - Beagle - Leivo Motte Schaller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 This is suppose to be like 99 bottles of beer on the wall over the next 24 hours Seems like no body like Beagle on the 3rd line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said: This is suppose to be like 99 bottles of beer on the wall over the next 24 hours Seems like no body like Beagle on the 3rd line? Sutter has been great when healthy this season. Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Ferland-Pettersson-Miller Pearson-Horvat-Boeser Roussel-Gaudette-Virtanen Leivo-Beagle-Sutter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 hours ago, N7Nucks said: Sutter has been great when healthy this season. Imo. I am not advocating Sutter being traded in this post or that he does not help I was coming from a stand point of making 3 offensive lines, that will out score their opponents In that regard, I don't think Sutter has done a good job......adequate, but not good. On the other hand, Beagle has given us glimpse of his offensive side.... The fact that we can throw 3 centers at the opponent, that are above 55% FO, is a solid offensive threat Sutter on the other hand gets less minutes and my guess is he stays healthier and his FO stats go up accordingly... Just a thought...…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: I am not advocating Sutter being traded in this post or that he does not help I was coming from a stand point of making 3 offensive lines, that will out score their opponents In that regard, I don't think Sutter has done a good job......adequate, but not good. On the other hand, Beagle has given us glimpse of his offensive side.... The fact that we can throw 3 centers at the opponent, that are above 55% FO, is a solid offensive threat Sutter on the other hand gets less minutes and my guess is he stays healthier and his FO stats go up accordingly... Just a thought...…. Sutter has more goals than Beagle has points, and he’s played fewer games. Sutter has been quite good offensively this season. Beagle has given us one glimpse of his offensive side, Sutter’s shown multiple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, N7Nucks said: Sutter has more goals than Beagle has points, and he’s played fewer games. Sutter has been quite good offensively this season. Beagle has given us one glimpse of his offensive side, Sutter’s shown multiple. True enough...but look at quality of line-mates, responsibilities, and zone starts Like everything, not everything shows up on the score sheet Regardless...Sutter needs his minutes reduce as he can't stay healthy...... And I am not saying it should be that way....only suggesting something different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: True enough...but look at quality of line-mates, responsibilities, and zone starts Like everything, not everything shows up on the score sheet Regardless...Sutter needs his minutes reduce as he can't stay healthy...... And I am not saying it should be that way....only suggesting something different Sutter was practicing on the wing this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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