lmm Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, Davathor said: It would have to be mutual.. like what happened with Marleau Marleau was bought out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D.B Cooper Posted December 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Darius said: since we can conjure up all sorts of names and scenarios... What would it take to get Kassian back? Baer? (+ what.).. I would not count on Ferland coming back for a while and they need someone that can play that type of game. Hard nosed, can hit, wont hurt any line that he is on (plays up and down the lineup) Kass is playing well on that top line...i doubt the oilers would swap them one for one.... Kass has a very important role in Edmonton, and he does it very well. That ship has sailed for us. Too bad tho, I loved Kassian. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, drummerboy said: Kass has a very important role in Edmonton, and he does it very well. That ship has sailed for us. Too bad tho, I loved Kassian. Sadly i must agree. Just watching him now play with McD and Drai....the way he sees the ice is under rated by some. He could play on our second line...bump him up on Petey's line once in a while if the game gets ugly....just a pipe dream I know. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Davathor said: I stand corrected. Forgot it was a buyout. I cant even think of an example of a mutual contract termination in that case. Berglund and Sabres agreed to a termination earlier this season. He went back to Sweden leaving several million on the table. Kovalchuk and NJD terminated contract several years ago. Kovy left to Russia right when his big money was about to kick in. He was about to start making 11+ mill per year next for next 4 yrs for 46 mill total. And total 77 million for remainder of his contract. But he wanted to go back to Russia so he walked from all that money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Darius said: since we can conjure up all sorts of names and scenarios... What would it take to get Kassian back? Baer? (+ what.).. I would not count on Ferland coming back for a while and they need someone that can play that type of game. Hard nosed, can hit, wont hurt any line that he is on (plays up and down the lineup) Kass is playing well on that top line...i doubt the oilers would swap them one for one.... Kass plays on top line with McDavid and Draisaitl. He scores plays physical and fights. Keeps the opposing team honest. On a 25+ goal 60 Pts pace. He's not going anywhere. He's too important to the Oilers. Kass is UFA at end of this season. He'll re sign with Oilers for a hefty pay raise. Edited December 15, 2019 by WHL rocks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 LOL, no one wants sven , or JB asking to much, from what i read they been shopping sven forawile now lol , poor guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, x00x said: LOL, no one wants sven , or JB asking to much, from what i read they been shopping sven forawile now lol , poor guy Yea he could have gone anywhere for free and no one took him. People on here actually thought he wouldn't clear waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: Yea he could have gone anywhere for free and no one took him. People on here actually thought he wouldn't clear waivers. When teams are struggling to meet the cap and submit their opening night roster, its not as easy as fans on this board think, to claim someone off waivers. It generally means making a last minute decision to waive someone else from your lineup. Once someone has cleaned waivers, it actually becomes easier to make deals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Sven, Loui, and Stecher for PK Subban. Saves $2.691+ million from our payroll. plus a 9 million cap hit for another 2 years , no thanks , we are going to be spending that on petey and hughes , not on pk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 If he was only signed for this season I think a team would take a flyer on him. It’s that extra year that teams don’t wanna take on. I think Sven and his agent are gonna have to accept that he’s gonna be in the minors this season and they can try again next year to get a shot. There’s always the Europe option too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: When teams are struggling to meet the cap and submit their opening night roster, its not as easy as fans on this board think, to claim someone off waivers. It generally means making a last minute decision to waive someone else from your lineup. Once someone has cleaned waivers, it actually becomes easier to make deals. Oh yea I get it but I don't think 40 would clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: Oh yea I get it but I don't think 40 would clear. Definitely wouldn't, but with Baertschi, I think there are team out there, now dealing with injuries, who would take a chance on him, who wouldn't have on pre season waivers. I've had the feeling for a couple of years, that Baertschi would be the odd man out eventually, due to the style of game that he plays, and that we have others in the system who play a similar game, but cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Lionized27 said: You're the one inserting Goldobin in Zucker's place, not me. Lol ok smarty pants, so you would have Goldobin in the bottom 6? He's a great checker at the nhl level right? Thats why he's in the AHL? To develop his offensive game? Zucker in the top 6 over Pearson or Leivo ? Who do Goldobin and Zucker replace in the lineup? Miller Pettersson Boeser Pearson Horvat Leivo Roussel Gaudette Virtanen Ferland Beagle Sutter Motte Eriksson Schaller Baertschi Goldobin Too many forwards on the roster as is, a trade or waivers is upcoming. Then lets look at Baertschi and goldy have cleared with little interest. Now they don't count as roster spots. Would Goldy and Baer out perform any of Miller, Pearson, Leivo, Virtanen, Boeser? Ferland Roussel Beagle Sutter Motte are much better for bottom 6 then goldy or baer. Still have 15 forwards on the roster. Zuckers cap hit is 5+ mill a year for 4 more years. Small left handed offensive forward? With injury history? We have baer already. Oh and Goldobin too! Baer + Virtanen for Zucker doesn't work cap wise even waiving Schaller (less then a million in cap savings) Miller Petey Boeser Pearson Horvat Zucker Roussel Gaudette Leivo Ferland Beagle Sutter Goldy Motte Eriksson 15 forwards again. No Zucker and No trading Virtanen. Sutter Eriksson Schaller Baertschi Goldobin will be should be moved before JV. Waste virtanen and baer for zucker an overpaid version of Baertschi? Wicked smart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Definitely wouldn't, but with Baertschi, I think there are team out there, now dealing with injuries, who would take a chance on him, who wouldn't have on pre season waivers. I've had the feeling for a couple of years, that Baertschi would be the odd man out eventually, due to the style of game that he plays, and that we have others in the system who play a similar game, but cheaper. Yea I think he was a stop gap. He filled a hole and we have moved on. Which teams do you think would be a good fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Chris12345 said: Yea I think he was a stop gap. He filled a hole and we have moved on. Which teams do you think would be a good fit? I think Columbus might be best bet right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I wish we would start shopping players when they have more value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Baertschi, Eriksson, Juolevi, Lind for Josh Anderson All about the cap dump. CBJ has the space. Anderson has been a ghost. They get two B+ prospects for taking on the 8 million of cap. They take the cap hit, but Eriksson is mostly paid out, saving them the actual $$. We get a 25 year old 6’3” 220 physical RW that is a north south player... a bigger Virtanen... cap play on any line. Perfect fit for the current team culture and of course the cap relief. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 If anything to make any trade, we wouldn't want to lose him for nothing. If no team is interested in Baertschi, not much Benning can do about it. Concussion history scare off teams especially with 3.5 million cap hit. The only way to see Baertschi is only if top 6 is injured. Him and Goldobin is competing for a depth spot and Goldy is more likely to be called up before Baertschi due to number of wavier exempted days left, he wasn't on this team for long. Tbh, teams is not in rush to make a move and only way that he would make a NHL team is when he is UFA and sign with other team. If no team is bidding for him, then the agent shouldn't be complaining about lack of moves and aim for the UFA. He has only one year left after this season and he still is making $3.6 million and count the blessings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 8 hours ago, GhostsOf1994 said: Miller Petey Boeser Pearson Horvat Goldobin Ferland Gaudette Leivo Roussel Beagle Sutter Zucker 4 hours ago, GhostsOf1994 said: Lol ok smarty pants, so you would have Goldobin in the bottom 6? No, smarty pants, I would have Zucker on the second line and Goldobin as the 13th. See above quote. He's a great checker at the nhl level right? Thats why he's in the AHL? To develop his offensive game? I'm going to guess you're referring to Goldobin? If so, you're wrong... Zucker in the top 6 over Pearson or Leivo ? With Pearson or Leivo, over Goldobin. Who do Goldobin and Zucker replace in the lineup? Zucker replaces Virtanen, Goldobin is in for Schaller. Miller Pettersson Boeser Pearson Horvat Leivo Roussel Gaudette Virtanen Ferland Beagle Sutter Motte Eriksson Schaller Baertschi Goldobin Too many forwards on the roster as is, a trade or waivers is upcoming. Then lets look at Baertschi and goldy have cleared with little interest. Now they don't count as roster spots. Would Goldy and Baer out perform any of Miller, Pearson, Leivo, Virtanen, Boeser? Ferland Roussel Beagle Sutter Motte are much better for bottom 6 then goldy or baer. Still have 15 forwards on the roster. Zuckers cap hit is 5+ mill a year for 4 more years. Small left handed offensive forward? With injury history? We have baer already. Oh and Goldobin too! Baer + Virtanen for Zucker doesn't work cap wise even waiving Schaller (less then a million in cap savings) Miller Petey Boeser Pearson Horvat Zucker Roussel Gaudette Leivo Ferland Beagle Sutter Goldy Motte Eriksson 15 forwards again. No Zucker and No trading Virtanen. Sutter Eriksson Schaller Baertschi Goldobin will be should be moved before JV. Waste virtanen and baer for zucker an overpaid version of Baertschi? The rest of this wall of text assumes a full, healthy roster for the remainder of the season. There's a distinct possibility Ferland may not return. At all. Goldobin could always be sent back down if he underperforms and the roster does become crowded. Wicked smart! You said it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Haha! Did anyone else hear Brian Burke's between periods take on the Baertschi trade discussions? Something to the effect of: "The Canucks won't need to add another phone line to handle the calls." So sarcastic, but unfortunately, so true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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