#Canucks Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: So immaturity is a red flag, is it not? Or are we just going to sweep it under the radar because it's not what you want to see. He was the captain of the team and he put himself ahead of the team when he thought it was a disgrace to take silver. Everyone else wore theirs, except him. That's poor sportsmanship, no matter how you slice it. And now he's demanded a trade so early in his career after proving NOTHING so far in the AHL. This reeks of entitlement issues. Next thing you'll say is Nichushskin shows "character" by bolting to Russia. Listen mate, no one said anything about Nichushskin. He was never captain of any team, never a leader in any way and is a completely different player. Next time to prove a point, try sticking to the said player and look at facts not thin air or other players. Thanks mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dazzle said: So immaturity is a red flag, is it not? Or are we just going to sweep it under the radar because it's not what you want to see. He was the captain of the team and he put himself ahead of the team when he thought it was a disgrace to take silver. Everyone else wore theirs, except him. That's poor sportsmanship, no matter how you slice it. And now he's demanded a trade so early in his career after proving NOTHING so far in the AHL. This reeks of entitlement issues. Next thing you'll say is Nichushskin shows "character" by bolting to Russia. There were several suspensions handed out by the IIHF to players and coaches for removing their medals during the ceremony. Rasmus Dahlin, Jesper Boqvist, Axel Johnsson, goalie Olle Eriksson Ek also removed their medals as well as their head coach and two assistants. Edited December 26, 2019 by mll 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Dazzle said: What are you saying? You saying that Dahlen could've been used by the Canucks? I’m saying Benning picked well by picking Pettersson, and even though they traded for Dahlén, they knew when to part ways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 10 hours ago, mll said: There were several suspensions handed out by the IIHF to players and coaches for removing their medals during the ceremony. Rasmus Dahlin, Jesper Boqvist, Axel Johnsson, goalie Olle Eriksson Ek also removed their medals as well as their head coach and two assistants. Interesting. Regardless, it likely started because the captain decided to remove his. It set the precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post higgyfan Posted December 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Interesting. Regardless, it likely started because the captain decided to remove his. It set the precedent. Who knows? The whole scene was a mess and Swedan was clearly robbed of the gold by the refs. It appears that there were several players and 3 coaches that took their medals off in disgust as well. Group mentality amongst the kids; the coaches new better, but got taken away by the highly charged emotional moment. It happens. People aren't robots. Regardless, something odd has happenned in Andersson's development, as he looked like a very good offensive player and played the complete game. He may be ripe for the picking, especially for a team that has a heavy Swedish history with a number of his countrymen currently on the team. If the price were right for the Canucks, I would be happy if they could acquire him. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Dazzle said: Interesting. Regardless, it likely started because the captain decided to remove his. It set the precedent. This is where my mom would say "if your friend jumped off a bridge would you?" To which I'd say "yes" and then she takes my N64. Bad times, very bad times. Edited December 27, 2019 by N7Nucks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Did anybody else for team Sweden actually chuck their medal into the crowd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Did anybody else for team Sweden actually chuck their medal into the crowd? I don't believe so. But hey, Andersson shows "good character" that nobody else does. Am I right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Canucks Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Dazzle said: I don't believe so. But hey, Andersson shows "good character" that nobody else does. Am I right? A lot of players on that specific Sweden team Lias was apart of probably have good character. Lias is one of many I’m sure. Edit. Analysts Reasons for the Rangers pick at 7th: ”The consensus among draft analysts immediately following the pick was that the Rangers went off the board and reached. It was described as a character over talent selection. Leadership, tenacity and work ethic were described as Andersson’s best qualities.” Edited December 27, 2019 by #Canucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, #Canucks said: A lot of players on that specific Sweden team Lias was apart of probably have good character. Lias is one of many I’m sure. Edit. Analysts Reasons for the Rangers pick at 7th: ”The consensus among draft analysts immediately following the pick was that the Rangers went off the board and reached. It was described as a character over talent selection. Leadership, tenacity and work ethic were described as Andersson’s best qualities.” But he threw his medal. Clearly he is a butt hole and probably says things like "you people" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Imagine believing that a player throwing his medal into the crowd is somehow a "character" move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Canucks Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Imagine believing that a player throwing his medal into the crowd is somehow a "character" move. It was definitely an immature move, there no doubt about it. Certainty was not a positive character move on his part. But there is way more to this kid than that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, #Canucks said: It was definitely an immature move, there no doubt about it. Certainty was not a positive character move on his part. But there is way more to this kid than that moment. That in conjunction with the fact that he's demanding a trade 2 years after being drafted after failing to perform in both the NHL and the AHL is enough of a red flag to make me stay away, that is unless the Rangers were willing to give him away for next to nothing, which I doubt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Canucks Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: That in conjunction with the fact that he's demanding a trade 2 years after being drafted after failing to perform in both the NHL and the AHL is enough of a red flag to make me stay away, that is unless the Rangers were willing to give him away for next to nothing, which I doubt. Reading what some of the fans and writers are saying about the situation, the coach really broke down his confidence and the team expected him to preform highly right away and when he didn’t, disappointment seemed to be the expression he was receiving. They chose him 7th but was being treated like a NHL ready player, in reality he needed more time and should have been drafted mid 1st round. Going down to Hartford and having the organization losing faith is buckling the kid. I believe that’s why the trade was asked. For better or for worse it can be taken both ways. Ranger Fans can see it and they are not happy it got to this point. The last 7th overall pick for the Rangers was Malholtra, he was mistreated. Expected too much too soon. He regressed, got traded and regained confidence years later only to become a face off specialist, 3rd/4th line guy. Had he got better treatment Manny may have reach a higher potential. I loved Manny here in Van and always will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, #Canucks said: Reading what some of the fans and writers are saying about the situation, the coach really broke down his confidence and the team expected him to preform highly right away and when he didn’t, disappointment seemed to be the expression he was receiving. They chose him 7th but was being treated like a NHL ready player, in reality he needed more time and should have been drafted mid 1st round. Going down to Hartford and having the organization losing faith is buckling the kid. I believe that’s why the trade was asked. For better or for worse it can be taken both ways. Ranger Fans can see it and they are not happy it got to this point. The last 7th overall pick for the Rangers was Malholtra, he was mistreated. Expected too much too soon. He regressed, got traded and regained confidence years later only to become a face off specialist, 3rd/4th line guy. Had he got better treatment Manny may have reach a higher potential. I loved Manny here in Van and always will. OR maybe he wasn't as good as he thought he was. Guess who else thought he was ready but was pouty after not even one year in the AHL. Dahlen. Yes, the same Dahlen that @Timråfan will fight people to the death to defend his Swedish honour. Seriously, look at what you're arguing. You're saying he was basically treated like a God (an NHL ready player). I'm sure the team would have done ANYTHING to help him succeed. When he buckled under expectations, he was sent down (a lot of players get sent down when they aren't ready). Now you're saying this has hurt his confidence? Not saying he is a bust but selling us the idea that he is a character guy is disingenuous. Edited December 27, 2019 by Dazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 The medal tossing thing is massively overblown. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Canucks Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Dazzle said: OR maybe he wasn't as good as he thought he was. Guess who else thought he was ready but was pouty after not even one year in the AHL. Dahlen. Yes, the same Dahlen that @Timråfan will fight people to the death to defend his Swedish honour. Seriously, look at what you're arguing. You're saying he was basically treated like a God (an NHL ready player). I'm sure the team would have done ANYTHING to help him succeed. When he buckled under expectations, he was sent down (a lot of players get sent down when they aren't ready). Now you're saying this has hurt his confidence? Not saying he is a bust but selling us the idea that he is a character guy is disingenuous. I did not say he buckled under expectations. Your lack of focus while reading is what drove you to ask that, I understand. Being sent down did not hurt his confidence either. Never said he was treated like a “God” either. That is just crazy for you to say. Dahlen was never even in the same category as Lias. So I’m not even going to touch that. You can think he’s not a character guy and that’s okay. I can think he is, that is okay. The next time we have a good back and fourth conversation, can you please read the pieces I write before responding? I do love a good conversation but I don’t not love having to go back and read your non sense rebutle, which makes zero sense.(Quite frankly a little made up to suit your point). Slow it down and read all the words and full sentences before responding, that’s all I ask! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 13 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Imagine believing that a player throwing his medal into the crowd is somehow a "character" move. It’s nothing anyone is calling a character move, but it’s not as bad as people make it sound. He didn’t beat up an old lady crossing the street. He threw a medal. Big whoop. Celebrating losing isn’t for everyone, he handled it poorly. Everyone Fs up. Oh well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Haven’t read the whole thread. Don’t really care about other teams potential wasted picks. Sorry if this has been posted already; but, I’d just like to remind everyone how real drafting gets success... 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 9 hours ago, N7Nucks said: It’s nothing anyone is calling a character move, but it’s not as bad as people make it sound. He didn’t beat up an old lady crossing the street. He threw a medal. Big whoop. Celebrating losing isn’t for everyone, he handled it poorly. Everyone Fs up. Oh well. This guy is the selfish poor sport. Yes, I remember him now. Don’t touch this guy. He’s still suckling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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