Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Chicago is suffering through a long season of being bottom feeder. Gotta feel some for warriors like Toews. I also liked watching Boqvist out there, he was my pick over Hughes for a long period leading up to the draft, but by the end, Bouchard, Dobson and Hughes were healthier options, for one. I still hope the best for Boqvist, but am thrilled the scouts got it absolutely right and picked QH. The Canucks need a few games with the best teams to temper their blade for the coming push towards the playoffs. We’ve had some quality opposition lately, but also a large selection of the league’s worst to pad stats with. Now is the time to look at the plan and adapt, which is on TG and JB to explore their options proper to the TDL. This is the half-way point of the season, where they typically go on a slide due injuries. JB must have anticipated this in the offseason, since quality players remain undressed. I still feel that AG will eventually earn that 2C role and BH will be used more effectively on special teams, match-ups and relied on less to do everything. AG looks to be every bit as offensively suited for top 6 duty and his FO capacity isn’t any worse than other star C’s in the league, if you want to split hairs. He’ll get there. Am I ever glad they stuck it out with Markstrom. He’s one heck of a good goalie, even when he’s bad, he’s nowhere near as bad as Cloochie and the other disasters we’ve had in goal here, and there has been a lot of them. That Pod kid looks to be another Miller-type player; a guy capable of puck retrieval and setup man for EP, the sniper. I don't feel so bad for Toews. He's got three Stanley Cup rings, and a couple of Olympic medals. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 cudo’s to the blackhawks for making our player struggle at times, but cudo’s to the canucks for overcoming the heat and showing resilience in their efforts. green wasn’t happy with their defensive game but it was fun to watch. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: If Sutter ever gets healthy he should join the 4th line with Beagle and Motte. Let Schaller sit a bit. Keep that 3rd line together. I agree Sutter will give that line a bit of an offensive threat. Schaller is like LE in that there is not much in any type of "offensive threat" of any kind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Pouliot and Clendening in that list as well. Hopefully Rafferty’s game translates to the NHL with more success than theirs has. I’d have to look up their ages, deployment and team stats to dig into those numbers. The D position and stats is tricky without the big picture, of course. IMO, our Utica D isn’t all that young or capable, as a whole, but consist of several smallish, yet serviceable call-up Dmen who will provide depth-depth. Woo isn’t even on the radar yet, although Edler isn’t going anywhere soon, so his game isn’t needed quite yet. OJ, hopefully, has a different trajectory than those options. Our future D looks to be getting smaller, which I’m not at all interested in unless they play like QH. Even then, a balance is required. JB has some work to do in securing quality options, IMO, but meanwhile he has a decent collection of guys who can compliment the existing Canucks Dcore. Always nice to have options, even if they are simply depth-depth and JB has done well in that regard. I trust he has a plan to address the quality aspect, like he seemed to have last summer for the NHL roster. Fanta and Benn have been awesome additions. Meyers is great today, but I think by the end he’ll be our next whipping boy like LE. Still, those were terrific additions to that pathetically pussified roster of yesteryear. Edited January 3, 2020 by 189lb enforcers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I agree Sutter will give that line a bit of an offensive threat. Schaller is like LE in that there is not much in any type of "offensive threat" of any kind. I never thought those two things would end up in the same sentence.... I agree but woah ha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said: It wasn't an oil painting, but it was a win. IMO, you treat this one the same way you treat a big loss.....nothing really to take away. Just move on to the next one... Re the booing of Duncan Keith: I'm not "over" his cheap shot on Danny in 2012 and I'm still pissed off that in the intervening 8 years, he's never had to pay for it. As much as I like beating the Hawks, nothing would top seeing one of the Canucks feeding him a steady diet of knuckle sandwiches. Good use of the TO Travis....hopefully the "fire the coach" crowd are nice and comfy back underneath their respective rocks.... +100... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: I’d have to look up their ages, deployment and team stats to dig into those numbers. The D position and stats is tricky without the big picture, of course. IMO, our Utica D isn’t all that young or capable, as a whole, but consist of several smallish, yet serviceable call-up Dmen who will provide depth-depth. Woo isn’t even on the radar yet, although Edler isn’t going anywhere soon, so his game isn’t needed quite yet. OJ, hopefully, has a different trajectory than those options. Our future D looks to be getting smaller, which I’m not at all interested in unless they play like QH. Even then, a balance is required. JB has some work to do in securing quality options, IMO, but meanwhile he has a decent collection of guys who can compliment the existing Canucks Dcore. Always nice to have options, even if they are simply depth-depth and JB has done well in that regard. I trust he has a plan to address the quality aspect, like he seemed to have last summer for the NHL roster. Fanta and Benn have been awesome additions. Meyers is great today, but I think by the end he’ll be our next whipping boy like LE. Still, those were terrific additions to that pathetically pussified roster of yesteryear. Here’s to hoping that someone’s KHL season comes to an end soon so that he can come back to Vancouver and tip the scales (from a size perspective) for the Canucks. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I don't feel so bad for Toews. He's got three Stanley Cup rings, and a couple of Olympic medals. Toews reminds me of Linden here, minus the hardware, of course. Tough to watch warriors like those two battle in meaningless games, seasons and then to end their careers on losing or rebuilding rosters. Linden certainly continued to block shots with his face in the final minutes of an 8-2 loss, but without the zillion dollars Toews now has to cry himself to sleep on over his ‘deteriorating’ career. I only feel sorry for the waste of that player/warrior, nothing else... Horvat has a longggg ways to go to be compared, even in the slightest, to the dedication Linden brought as a Canuck, let alone captain. No offence to Horvat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: I never thought those two things would end up in the same sentence.... I agree but woah ha I think its all relative. With those three in front of the net alone? My bets are on Sutter scoring over the other two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said: It wasn't an oil painting, but it was a win. IMO, you treat this one the same way you treat a big loss.....nothing really to take away. Just move on to the next one... Re the booing of Duncan Keith: I'm not "over" his cheap shot on Danny in 2012 and I'm still pissed off that in the intervening 8 years, he's never had to pay for it. As much as I like beating the Hawks, nothing would top seeing one of the Canucks feeding him a steady diet of knuckle sandwiches. Good use of the TO Travis....hopefully the "fire the coach" crowd are nice and comfy back underneath their respective rocks.... I'm still not sold on Green , happy his doing well and the team but Green still has some growing to do....I still think it wouldnt hurt to have a former head coach on his staff like the flyer caching staff. But the team is winning either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 hours ago, CanuckleHorse said: Would love to hear the instrumental played after our goals at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Bagues Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 14 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: "A famous coach once told me that you don't always paint a portrait, sometimes you paint a barn." - Green My guess is Al Arbour. At the coaches clinic last June Green told a couple stories involving Al - he seems to have had a fair bit of influence on Travis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: I'm still not sold on Green , happy his doing well and the team but Green still has some growing to do....I still think it wouldnt hurt to have a former head coach on his staff like the flyer caching staff. But the team is winning either way JB selected the coach, knowing which styles would be used for his roster. If anything, I’d be including JB in any criticism of Baumer, etc, because JB had a large hand in selecting which systems his players would best execute as a team when he selected TG as head coach. I like the 2-1-2, but not the passive D gap seen immediately by the opposition during transition play. QH alone was reason to address the D system in the off-season, IMO. The offensive structure remains a puzzle to me, given the roster composition, but what do I know... Special teams are tougher to nail down due to several fluid factors, which aren’t applicable here. TG looks good in a win, but generally in a loss, the high-vis breakdowns and errors are undeniably linkable to coaching and the growing body of work allows room for concern or criticisms. I’m not on the fire TG wagon, but I understand the mob’s misplaced rage and hope to remind them that TG was a JB selection, so spread some blame to him also. It’s been an interesting year. I’m already intrigued just thinking about the off-season. Coaching and deployment must be central to JB’s vision and execution. I wouldn’t be surprised to see wholesale coaching changes this summer as the team continues it’s trajectory out of a rebuild phase, which TG and his staff have done well with, but a new approach is likely part of JB’s vision for his young core. How often do we see NHL coaches adapt new philosophies or approaches to their systems? Might have to think on that for a bit for an appropriate response. I mean to say that I wouldn’t bet on the evolution or rebirth of TG as a coach, nor do I see him suited for the emerging Canucks roster, but again, it’s just a passing opinion of mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 13 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: After believing that Green’s days might have been numbered, I’ve got a meal to attend to. Ugh, can I join you at the table? I was drunk in mexico in November, ranting about firing Green...lol. Will there be humble pie served for dessert!? It's my favorite 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, sonoman said: Or aren’t old enough to know. I’ve been following Canucks since 1970 I only been following since the early 2000s. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 57 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: If Sutter ever gets healthy he should join the 4th line with Beagle and Motte. Let Schaller sit a bit. Keep that 3rd line together. I'd like to see them try Big Mac on the 4th line with Beagle and Motte, Timmy Schal looks to have slown down a bit lately, Mac is still with the team, I could see him and Benn getting into next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 50 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: I'm still not sold on Green , happy his doing well and the team but Green still has some growing to do....I still think it wouldnt hurt to have a former head coach on his staff like the flyer caching staff. But the team is winning either way Not that I disagree, but the thing with former head coaches is that they generally want to get back to being a HC. IMO, that wouldn't help Travis much, nor would it make enough of a difference, to justify the uncertainty that such a hire would bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: JB selected the coach, knowing which styles would be used for his roster. If anything, I’d be including JB in any criticism of Baumer, etc, because JB had a large hand in selecting which systems his players would best execute as a team when he selected TG as head coach. I like the 2-1-2, but not the passive D gap seen immediately by the opposition during transition play. QH alone was reason to address the D system in the off-season, IMO. The offensive structure remains a puzzle to me, given the roster composition, but what do I know... Special teams are tougher to nail down due to several fluid factors, which aren’t applicable here. TG looks good in a win, but generally in a loss, the high-vis breakdowns and errors are undeniably linkable to coaching and the growing body of work allows room for concern or criticisms. I’m not on the fire TG wagon, but I understand the mob’s misplaced rage and hope to remind them that TG was a JB selection, so spread some blame to him also. It’s been an interesting year. I’m already intrigued just thinking about the off-season. Coaching and deployment must be central to JB’s vision and execution. I wouldn’t be surprised to see wholesale coaching changes this summer as the team continues it’s trajectory out of a rebuild phase, which TG and his staff have done well with, but a new approach is likely part of JB’s vision for his young core. How often do we see NHL coaches adapt new philosophies or approaches to their systems? Might have to think on that for a bit for an appropriate response. I mean to say that I wouldn’t bet on the evolution or rebirth of TG as a coach, nor do I see him suited for the emerging Canucks roster, but again, it’s just a passing opinion of mine. I agree with everything your saying but I think Green is still on a hot seat cause of his coaching not the team.... this team has more talent then I've seen in sometime , so I beg the question is it coaching or did our team just get way better? i like green but his still green at the nhl level and like you mentioned for green to grow or rethink his systems , he needs someone on his staff with the knowledge to learn from so we're not learning on the fly Or in game... from your keyboard to Jim's ears I hope.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Not that I disagree, but the thing with former head coaches is that they generally want to get back to being a HC. IMO, that wouldn't help Travis much, nor would it make enough of a difference, to justify the uncertainty that such a hire would bring. Okay with that logic look what mat sundin did in Van , listen to kes and juice and his leadership helped them , in his short stay. So even if we hire one for a year , that's a year of Green having help and having someone there that has been threw it. Check out the flyers coaching staff , heard in a interview they all like it cause they all understand each other and it makes each of their jobs easier. I agree HC don't want to be a side kick but sometimes it's not a bad thing. So I beg a differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 Miller has been a huge boon for this team. Guys like Brock, Jake, are following his example. He's a great team-mate. And does so many things well. He can deke, work on the boards, shoot, pass. The guy can do it all. 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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