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Nice bonus..considering this exp'd asset can be traced back to malcontent, Mr not hip Kesler.

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1 minute ago, ruilin96 said:

Gudbranson for Pearson is the biggest steal of a trade JB has made in his tenure as a Canucks GM.

Miller was a pretty good steal too but when you compare the value of what we gave up in both trades I'd have to agree.

 

Neither is exactly Naslund for Stojanov but hey you work with what you're given

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1 hour ago, ruilin96 said:

Gudbranson for Pearson is the biggest steal of a trade JB has made in his tenure as a Canucks GM.

The Miller trade was another great trade...

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I was actually really stunned to hear that Canucks had gotten a player like Pearson for Gudbranson. I hadn't really followed his path since the last Kings championship too much, but I'd kind of always though that 70s line with him, Toffoli and Carter was going to be a force for some time to come. I hadn't realized how much he'd fallen off last year, and am still surprised his stock had dropped so low. He kind of had a similar slump to last year earlier this season, but it would seem having a coach who has confidence in him has helped him push through and become a good second line winger for us. With any luck, he's going to reach his peak with us. Our team really seems to be rounding the corner and showing a lot of promise.

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Benning won the JT Miller trade, but compared with Pearson trade, BN won much.

The cost of Miller includes a first round pick which is huge cost because of the draft history of BN.

The cost of Pearson is Gudbranson whom I see there is BN's previous trade loss. Now BN turns his trade loss to a win.

 

It is concluded that BN has improved his trading performance.

 

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TOP 5 BEST TRADES

- Gudbranson for Pearson

- 1st for Miller
- Kesler for Bonino / 1st / Sbisa
- Carcone for Leivo
TIE #5 Jason Garison for a 2nd and Bieksa for a 2nd

HM: Vanek for Motte, Baertschi for a 2nd, Shinkaruk for Granlund

TOP 5 WORST TRADES
- McCann + 2nd for Gudbranson
- Kassian + 5th for Prust
- 2nd for Vey
- Bonino + Clendening + 2nd for Sutter + 3rd

HM: 3rd for Pedan which then lead to a 4th + Pedan for Pouliot,  Forsling for Clendening

Within a 7 month span Benning #1, #2, and #4 best trades - he really turned things around. Actually most of the trades after the McCann trade have all been pretty good. Also his signings this season were pretty decent, despite the injury to Ferland. Myers has held his end of the bargain up, leading all Canucks in time on ice and looking at least half decent in a top 4 role.  

Before that he had a pretty ugly streak. Larsen, Etem, Sutter, Prust all ended up being poor trades. Shinkaruk for Granlund turned out alright although Granlund became the face of mediocrity for the team. He traded away four picks and downgraded (swapped for lower picks) on two more. Given where we were in our rebuild that is pretty brutal.

 

What made the first Gudbranson deal even worse is he followed it up with the Loui Eriksson and drafting of Juolevi over Tkachuk. 
 

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2 hours ago, ruilin96 said:

Gudbranson for Pearson is the biggest steal of a trade JB has made in his tenure as a Canucks GM.

Never forget the Forsling for Clendening trade. That will always be Benning's legacy.

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I'm thinking the Canucks have won the balance of trades with the Penguins.

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1 hour ago, canucklehead44 said:

TOP 5 BEST TRADES

- Gudbranson for Pearson

- 1st for Miller
- Kesler for Bonino / 1st / Sbisa
- Carcone for Leivo
TIE #5 Jason Garison for a 2nd and Bieksa for a 2nd

HM: Vanek for Motte, Baertschi for a 2nd, Shinkaruk for Granlund

TOP 5 WORST TRADES
- McCann + 2nd for Gudbranson
- Kassian + 5th for Prust
- 2nd for Vey
- Bonino + Clendening + 2nd for Sutter + 3rd

HM: 3rd for Pedan which then lead to a 4th + Pedan for Pouliot,  Forsling for Clendening

Within a 7 month span Benning #1, #2, and #4 best trades - he really turned things around. Actually most of the trades after the McCann trade have all been pretty good. Also his signings this season were pretty decent, despite the injury to Ferland. Myers has held his end of the bargain up, leading all Canucks in time on ice and looking at least half decent in a top 4 role.  

Before that he had a pretty ugly streak. Larsen, Etem, Sutter, Prust all ended up being poor trades. Shinkaruk for Granlund turned out alright although Granlund became the face of mediocrity for the team. He traded away four picks and downgraded (swapped for lower picks) on two more. Given where we were in our rebuild that is pretty brutal.

 

What made the first Gudbranson deal even worse is he followed it up with the Loui Eriksson and drafting of Juolevi over Tkachuk. 
 

I disagree on Tkachuk. That piece of work would be like having another Kesler or Messier POS on the team again. 

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2 hours ago, canucklehead44 said:

TOP 5 BEST TRADES

- Gudbranson for Pearson

- 1st for Miller
- Kesler for Bonino / 1st / Sbisa
- Carcone for Leivo
TIE #5 Jason Garison for a 2nd and Bieksa for a 2nd

HM: Vanek for Motte, Baertschi for a 2nd, Shinkaruk for Granlund

TOP 5 WORST TRADES
- McCann + 2nd for Gudbranson
- Kassian + 5th for Prust
- 2nd for Vey
- Bonino + Clendening + 2nd for Sutter + 3rd

HM: 3rd for Pedan which then lead to a 4th + Pedan for Pouliot,  Forsling for Clendening

Within a 7 month span Benning #1, #2, and #4 best trades - he really turned things around. Actually most of the trades after the McCann trade have all been pretty good. Also his signings this season were pretty decent, despite the injury to Ferland. Myers has held his end of the bargain up, leading all Canucks in time on ice and looking at least half decent in a top 4 role.  

Before that he had a pretty ugly streak. Larsen, Etem, Sutter, Prust all ended up being poor trades. Shinkaruk for Granlund turned out alright although Granlund became the face of mediocrity for the team. He traded away four picks and downgraded (swapped for lower picks) on two more. Given where we were in our rebuild that is pretty brutal.

 

What made the first Gudbranson deal even worse is he followed it up with the Loui Eriksson and drafting of Juolevi over Tkachuk. 
 

Not sure why Baertschi for a 2nd is heralded here as a good trade (especially considering who Calgary picked up). He's taking up 3+ million in cap space while in the AHL. Other than that, I definitely agree.  

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3 hours ago, canucklehead44 said:

TOP 5 BEST TRADES

- Gudbranson for Pearson

- 1st for Miller
- Kesler for Bonino / 1st / Sbisa
- Carcone for Leivo
TIE #5 Jason Garison for a 2nd and Bieksa for a 2nd

HM: Vanek for Motte, Baertschi for a 2nd, Shinkaruk for Granlund

TOP 5 WORST TRADES
- McCann + 2nd for Gudbranson
- Kassian + 5th for Prust
- 2nd for Vey
- Bonino + Clendening + 2nd for Sutter + 3rd

HM: 3rd for Pedan which then lead to a 4th + Pedan for Pouliot,  Forsling for Clendening

Within a 7 month span Benning #1, #2, and #4 best trades - he really turned things around. Actually most of the trades after the McCann trade have all been pretty good. Also his signings this season were pretty decent, despite the injury to Ferland. Myers has held his end of the bargain up, leading all Canucks in time on ice and looking at least half decent in a top 4 role.  

Before that he had a pretty ugly streak. Larsen, Etem, Sutter, Prust all ended up being poor trades. Shinkaruk for Granlund turned out alright although Granlund became the face of mediocrity for the team. He traded away four picks and downgraded (swapped for lower picks) on two more. Given where we were in our rebuild that is pretty brutal.

 

What made the first Gudbranson deal even worse is he followed it up with the Loui Eriksson and drafting of Juolevi over Tkachuk. 
 

Don't forget the Diaz trade to NYR for their 5th which we used to draft Gaudette. The Hansen and Burrows trades looked like huge wins at the time of the deals and at worst we moved two potential expansion pieces for assets that could be protected (and we got Burrows an extension which ended up as a nice little retirement gift). We also got picks for Eddie Lack who became a dud real quick after the trade (which would be equivalent to some of our "worst" trades).

 

I believe while we did trade away picks, we also acquired picks and in the end we drafted a full allotment of picks over Benning's tenure. We may have given up some high picks, but Benning has more than made up for them with his draft record in the later rounds to make up for it. Cashing in on later picks is just as good IMO considering the odds of the picks anyway.

 

McCann might be only real NHL player that could've helped us and I have my doubts on him really wanting to be here. Kassian was never going to be a player for us. All the other "worst" trades had very little effect on us in the end.

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2 hours ago, theo5789 said:

Never forget the Forsling for Clendening trade. That will always be Benning's legacy.

Who is Gustav Forsling? What team does he play for?

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6 hours ago, ruilin96 said:

Gudbranson for Pearson is the biggest steal of a trade JB has made in his tenure as a Canucks GM.

No, close but no, JT Miller.. for an average goalie and a conditional pick, that may or not ever make the nhl. not only can JT score highlight reel goals, the timing of some of them has won us games and he's capable of playing on any line, not just top line and one dimensional.. JB pulled one out of his *** on that and everyone thought we over paid.. that was hilarious.. larceny to the 10th degree... and it was a mute pick anyway since JB did it again on Podz, who is worth the wait and will be a big part of this team in 2 years when we need ELC's to help with salary cap juggling which teams have to do anyway but add even Hogs on top of that.. 

 Going to have a pretty kick ass team if JB keeps it up.. thankfully in the last few years he's learned what we're going to need more than ever as we hone it a fast skilled tough team that's the only recipe for winning a cup.. 

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47 minutes ago, iceman64 said:

No, close but no, JT Miller.. for an average goalie and a conditional pick, that may or not ever make the nhl. not only can JT score highlight reel goals, the timing of some of them has won us games and he's capable of playing on any line, not just top line and one dimensional.. JB pulled one out of his *** on that and everyone thought we over paid.. that was hilarious.. larceny to the 10th degree... and it was a mute pick anyway since JB did it again on Podz, who is worth the wait and will be a big part of this team in 2 years when we need ELC's to help with salary cap juggling which teams have to do anyway but add even Hogs on top of that.. 

 Going to have a pretty kick ass team if JB keeps it up.. thankfully in the last few years he's learned what we're going to need more than ever as we hone it a fast skilled tough team that's the only recipe for winning a cup.. 

JT Miller trade to me is still a win-win situation. Tampa Bay got to free up the cap space to resign Point and got 2 draft picks (1st round and 3rd round). Canucks got a very good top 6 scorer who is arguably the MVP of this team. This trade isn’t completed because we don’t know who that 1st round pick will be. Tampa with an extra 1st round pick in the draft could mean they can move a first for assets to add to their playoff run. Overall, I think it’s a good trade for both teams.

 

The Gudbranson for Pearson trade is wizardry. We moved out a player with a big cap bit who is struggling; in most cases, moving a player with a high cap hit (with terms left as well) and poor performance often results in giving up assets or retaining salary. Bending didnt had to retain any salary or give up any asset. Not only that, but the player we got in return is scoring at 60 point rate and is a top 6 scoring winger. That’s turning a piece of rock into a piece of gold.

 

Penguins ended up moving Gudbranson and got back virtually nothing in return. 

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3 hours ago, spur1 said:

I disagree on Tkachuk. That piece of work would be like having another Kesler or Messier POS on the team again. 

Tkachuk roussel virtanen 

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1 hour ago, riffraff said:

Tkachuk roussel virtanen 

We probably miss out on Petey and Hughes though if we had Tkachuk in 2016.

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