qwijibo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: if this is the only move Bergevin makes by the TDL and he could have had Baer for free, yeah thats a mistake. All you have to do is look at the slide in Montreals record since Berevin took over to see the guy makes far more poor decisions that good ones. But When Montreal has a mostly healthy lineup Baertschi is exactly where he is now. In the minors. It’s wasted cap space no matter how you slice it. So no. Not picking him up was not a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, qwijibo said: But When Montreal has a mostly healthy lineup Baertschi is exactly where he is now. In the minors. It’s wasted cap space no matter how you slice it. So no. Not picking him up was not a mistake how is it wasted if Montreal has the space left over at the TDL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: how is it wasted if Montreal has the space left over at the TDL? Because it goes into next season. Who knows what happens over free agency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Because it goes into next season. Who knows what happens over free agency. its Montreal, we know what will happen in free agency. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: its Montreal, we know what will happen in free agency. That’s a crap arguement. The bottom line is NHL is a salary cap league. Decisions are made based on the cap. Baertschi is a borderline Nhl’er that eats up $3.6m cap space (or $2.3m cap in the minors). If he isn’t good enough to be in the top 6 when the team is mostly healthy, he’ll be in the minors. This season it doesn’t matter. But Kovalchuk isn’t signed for next season, Baertschi is. That $3.6m in cap space gives Bergevin more options to do things over the summer (free agency/trades) than if it’s sitting wasted on Baertschi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, qwijibo said: That’s a crap arguement. The bottom line is NHL is a salary cap league. Decisions are made based on the cap. Baertschi is a borderline Nhl’er that eats up $3.6m cap space (or $2.3m cap in the minors). If he isn’t good enough to be in the top 6 when the team is mostly healthy, he’ll be in the minors. This season it doesn’t matter. But Kovalchuk isn’t signed for next season, Baertschi is. That $3.6m in cap space gives Bergevin more options to do things over the summer (free agency/trades) than if it’s sitting wasted on Baertschi. you get what you pay for. Bergevin's history shows he won't do much with that space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: you get what you pay for. Bergevin's history shows he won't do much with that space. Take Bergevin out of the equation. Wasting cap space on a marginal player with term to cover a short term injury problem is bad management. It’s a simple concept. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Baertschi is one bad hit away from the end of his career. Not many teams want to take that type of player situation on. every player is one hit away... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Take Bergevin out of the equation. Wasting cap space on a marginal player with term to cover a short term injury problem is bad management. It’s a simple concept. I'm sure many fans in Montreal wish that were possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, gurn said: every player is one hit away... Agreed but a player with a history of concussion issues is more likely to be out of the league if he sustains another concussion as opposed to a player that hasn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, Losing With Pride said: Agreed but a player with a history of concussion issues is more likely to be out of the league if he sustains another concussion as opposed to a player that hasn't. Exactly. Just had a kid too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 15 hours ago, wai_lai416 said: Baertschi will rot in Utica before the canucks will trade him with cap retention. i don't think Aqualinni will be happy to pay more salary for players to sit in the pressbox or play for another team.. we have almost 10mil worth of cap space not including luongo's recapture that when the lineup is fully healthy is either playing in the minor.. bought out.. or sitting in a pressbox.. we are looking good now but imagine if we miss the playoff this year and next.. a big reason is going to be we have 10mil cap space + the 3mil luongo recapture doing absolutely nothing... or imagine how much better we could actually be if we had the extra 10-13mil to play with. Its not AquaMan's problem, its the GM he hired who has put us in this mess. The team as a whole should have raised hell about the Luongo cap penalty, but they are just a bunch of overly polite canadians I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Losing With Pride said: Agreed but a player with a history of concussion issues is more likely to be out of the league if he sustains another concussion as opposed to a player that hasn't. Maybe, maybe not depends on the severity of the hit. Every person deals with concussions differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Didnt he pass through waivers twice? They couldnt have been that interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I would do Baertchi for Noah Juulsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 7 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: I would do Baertchi for Noah Juulsen Clearly Montreal wouldn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) Considering Kovalchuk has not become their saviour, let’s hope the Habs are still interested in Baertchi Edited January 10, 2020 by grandmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 17 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: I would do Baertchi for Noah Juulsen It would be Baer for free. Probably a case where the Habs say to JB we will take him if you want, just put Sven on waivers agian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, grandmaster said: Considering Kovalchuk has not become their saviour, let’s hope the Habs are still interested in Baertchi He’s had 3 assists in 3 games. He’s looked solid. Baertschi isn’t the answer to what ails Montreal. Especially with another year left on his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Can't believe Benning turned down three 1st round picks for Baertschi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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