BoeserThanYou Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) Long lurker, first time poster. Feel like this core just needs a bit of tweaking to go on a deeeeeep run! And as much as many here wish we could get something for nothing, sadly that's not the case.. So I propose three deal, that well sacrificing some of our prospect depth give us long term pieces to age with our core well shedding considerable salary going forward. Not a numbers wizard, but think the cap should be pretty good, with maybe a little bit of jimmying on any of the deals.. Also fully believe tree is signing at the end of February and can step in without hesitation. To Nashville Demko Tanev Lind Erikkson 2nd To Vancouver Filip Forsberg Dan Hamhuis Next To Detroit Podkolzin Woo Suter 1st next year, because we are making the playoffs! To Vancouver Tyler Bertuzzi And finally To Ottawa Stetcher 4th To Vancouver Christian Jaros Your 2019-2020 Stanley Cup Champion Canucks Forsberg Pettersson Boeser Pearson Horvat Miller Bertuzzi Gaudente Virtanen Roussel Beagle Motte Ferland/MacEwan/Schaller/Graovac/Baerschi/Goldobin/Leivo Edler Myers Hughes Hammer Benn Tree/Jaros Fantanberg/Juolevi/Rafferty Markstrom Mikey Sooooo Flame me alive Spoiler Go Canucks Go! Edited January 9, 2020 by BoeserThanYou Forgot half of one of my trades :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AriGold2.0 Posted January 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, BoeserThanYou said: Next To Detroit Podkolzin Woo Suter 1st next year, because we are making the playoffs! And finally Reveal hidden contents Go Canucks Go! We send an awful lot to Detroit to get absolutely nothing in return... 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 ext To Detroit Podkolzin Woo Suter 1st next year, because we are making the playoffs! all that for tyler bertuzzi ? I don't think so 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoeserThanYou Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 lololol OP is updated, package is for Tyler Bertuzzi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoeserThanYou Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 Why not? Agitating, speedy physical, scoring winger, will drop the gloves and he's got flow. On pace for 60 points, whats not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Dude Tyler Bertuzzi is probably my favourite player not on the Canucks or the Sens... but WOW that is a huge overpayment on him. These are pretty big deals... Love Hamhuis but don't really want him back either. I think he's better playing away from the Vancouver spotlight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Hate to break it to you OP but Bertuzzi is a glorified grinder. That's also quite a costly trade for Forsberg... does the cap even work? Even if it does I don't think I would do it since there would likely be future cap issues for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I’m not sure I would give that package for Todd Bertuzzi in his prime. Good lord that’s a massive overpayment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoeserThanYou Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 So the main issue seems to be with the second package, and the value of Bertuzzi. What do y'all think he's worth? Pods Floor is significantly lower then the player Tyler currently is, Woo from the majority of sources seems to have regressed this year, Sutter is a cap dump, and the first is going to be at least 24, but probably higher.. Would attaching conditions to the first make it more palatable ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoeserThanYou Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, coastal.view said: omg Thanks for the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 There's our future, dumped all in(to) the abyss. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post luckylager Posted January 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, BoeserThanYou said: To Nashville Demko Tanev Lind Erikkson 2nd To Vancouver Filip Forsberg Dan Hamhuis 1 hour ago, BoeserThanYou said: Next To Detroit Podkolzin Woo Suter 1st next year, because we are making the playoffs! To Vancouver Tyler Bertuzzi 1 hour ago, BoeserThanYou said: And finally To Ottawa Stetcher 4th To Vancouver Christian Jaros 1 hour ago, BoeserThanYou said: Sooooo Flame me alive Reveal hidden contents Go Canucks Go! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: There's our future, dumped all in(to) the abyss. Yup Where's @48MPHSlapShot? He's got a running theme about these kind of threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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'NucK™ Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, BoeserThanYou said: So the main issue seems to be with the second package, and the value of Bertuzzi. What do y'all think he's worth? Pods Floor is significantly lower then the player Tyler currently is, Woo from the majority of sources seems to have regressed this year, Sutter is a cap dump, and the first is going to be at least 24, but probably higher.. Would attaching conditions to the first make it more palatable ? It's 2 first round picks (and then some) for.... Tyler Bertuzzi I'm sure you remember the reactions when we recently traded just 1? And for a better player.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, luckylager said: Yup Where's @48MPHSlapShot? He's got a running theme about these kind of threads. That 1st gif is Nashville. Forsberg is a 30 goal scorer and a core player for them. He's their best forward and probably the only one that can really take over a game. I don't even think they'd consider doing Boeser for Forsberg. Forsberg scores in so many different ways and can play a power forward game. Eriksson is a cap dump. Tanev an upcoming UFA - would be a 3rd pairing D in Nashville. Canucks intend to sign Markstrom - losing Demko for someone as versatile as Forsberg is negligible. Lind might never make the league and a 2nd round pick is a giant question mark. There's really nothing in it for Nashville other than Demko. They have already ear-marked Saros as the heir to Rinne and they have AHL-all star goalie Connor Ingram waiting in the wings. Edited January 9, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) Hey there. Good on ya for posting some ideas. Unlike some on here, I don't get upset that you like to think about how to make our team better and post your thoughts for discussion. So please don't be put off by the negativity. Of course these deals won't happen. We're all just spit balling. And in my personal opinion I think that the Canucks should not go all in this year, it is too early for their young core. But hey, in response to your OP, I think the roster you have proposed is not quite a Cup contender (and neither is mine below), but I would rather keep Tanev over Hamhuis, and I think Demko is essential as a decent backup for Marky. So here are some possible changes to your three deals to get a top 6 winger plus Tyler Bert without losing Tanev and Demko: Deal 1: To MIN - Lind, Leivo, 2021 2nd To VAN - Zucker Deal 2: To DET - Podkolzin, Sutter, Stecher To VAN - Bertuzzi Deal 3: Sign Tryamkin to $2.5m Waive Eriksson, MacEwen Total cap out = $10.1m Total cap in = $9.4m Miller Pettersson Boeser Pearson Horvat Zucker Bertuzzi Gaudette Virtanen Roussel Beagle Motte Schaller (LTIR = Ferland, Graovac; Utica depth = Eriksson, MacEwen, Baer, Goldobin) Edler Myers Hughes Tanev Benn Tryamkin Fantenberg (Utica depth = Rafferty, Teves, Brisebois, OJ) Markstrom Demko Edited January 9, 2020 by BigTramFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, mll said: That 1st gif is Nashville. Forsberg is a 30 goal scorer and a core player for them. He's their best forward and probably the only one that can really take over a game. I don't even think they'd consider doing Boeser for Forsberg. Forsberg scores in so many different ways and can play a power forward game. Eriksson is a cap dump. Tanev an upcoming UFA - would be a 3rd pairing D in Nashville. Canucks intend to sign Markstrom - losing Demko for someone as versatile as Forsberg is negligible. Lind might never make the league and a 2nd round pick is a giant question mark. There's really nothing in it for Nashville other than Demko. They have already ear-marked Saros as the heir to Rinne and they have AHL-all star goalie Connor Ingram waiting in the wings. The first gif was actually anyone of sane mind thinking about a hockey trade. It's bad for both sides. We're not having a problem scoring, which is awesome, but Hamhuis could only improve our D by putting Baumer into a submission hold and taking his job. And the D is by far our biggest problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) I am going to revamp this for you...……….. To Nashville...………….Pearson, Hoglander, 2021-1st, Juolevi, and Eriksson To Vancouver...………..Filip Forsberg (LW) ___________________ To Detroit...…………….Podkolzin, Sutter and Demko To Vancouver...………..Tyler Bertuzzi (LW/RW) ___________________ To Ottawa...…………….Woo, Lind and Stecher To Vancouver ......……...Christian Jaros ____________________ To Carolina...……………..Myers, Madden To Vancouver ……………Pesce ____________________ Cap out...………………...Eriksson (6,000,000), Sutter (4,375,000), Myers (6,000,000) and Stecher (RFA 3,500,000) = $17,875,000 Cap In......………………..Forsberg (6,000,000), Bertuzzi (RFA 5,000,000), Pesce (4,025,000), and Jaros (RFA 1,000,000) = $16,025,000 ____________________ 2021 Canuck Line-up...…...Top 10 Forsberg / Pettersson / Boeser Bertuzzi / Horvat / Miller Roussel / Gaudette / Virtanen Motte / Beagle / McEwen Hughes / Pesce Edler / Tanev Tryamkin / Jaros Rathbone / Rafferty Markstrom / DiPietro ______________________ OK...…….Here is the problems #1...……..Your Prospect cupboard is bare #2...……..No 1st for the next 2 years #3...……..Who are you going to protect in the Expansion draft? #4...……..Who are your injury replacements? #5...……..What are you going to pay your RFA's with? #6...……..You have UFA's coming the next year _______________________ Use the same questions for your proposal, which isn't that far off mine _______________________ I think we should just keep who we got and try to move some cap out if we can Edited January 9, 2020 by janisahockeynut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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