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Long lurker, first time poster.

Feel like this core just needs a bit of tweaking to go on a deeeeeep run!

And as much as many here wish we could get something for nothing, sadly that's not the case..

So I propose three deal, that well sacrificing some of our prospect depth give us long term pieces to age with our core well shedding considerable salary going forward.

 

Not a numbers wizard, but think the cap should be pretty good, with maybe a little bit of jimmying on any of the deals..

Also fully believe tree is signing at the end of February and can step in without hesitation. 

 

 

To Nashville

Demko

Tanev

Lind

Erikkson 

2nd

 

To Vancouver

Filip Forsberg

Dan Hamhuis

 

Next

 

To Detroit

Podkolzin 

Woo

Suter 

1st next year, because we are making the playoffs!

 

To Vancouver

Tyler Bertuzzi

 

And finally

 

To Ottawa

Stetcher

4th

 

To Vancouver 

Christian Jaros

 

Your 2019-2020 Stanley Cup Champion Canucks

 

Forsberg Pettersson Boeser

Pearson Horvat Miller

Bertuzzi Gaudente Virtanen 

Roussel Beagle Motte

Ferland/MacEwan/Schaller/Graovac/Baerschi/Goldobin/Leivo

 

Edler Myers

Hughes Hammer

Benn Tree/Jaros

Fantanberg/Juolevi/Rafferty

 

Markstrom

Mikey

 

Sooooo Flame me alive :bigblush:

Spoiler

Go Canucks Go!

 

 

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Forgot half of one of my trades :)
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To Detroit

Podkolzin 

Woo

Suter 

1st next year, because we are making the playoffs!


all that for tyler bertuzzi  ?  I don't think so

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Why not? 

Agitating, speedy physical, scoring winger, will drop the gloves and he's got flow.

On pace for 60 points, whats not to like?

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Dude Tyler Bertuzzi is probably my favourite player not on the Canucks or the Sens... but WOW that is a huge overpayment on him.

 

These are pretty big deals... Love Hamhuis but don't really want him back either. I think he's better playing away from the Vancouver spotlight.

 

 

 

 

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Hate to break it to you OP but Bertuzzi is a glorified grinder.

 

That's also quite a costly trade for Forsberg... does the cap even work?  Even if it does I don't think I would do it since there would likely be future cap issues for us.

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I’m not sure I would give that package for Todd Bertuzzi in his prime. Good lord that’s a massive overpayment. 

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So the main issue seems to be with the second package, and the value of Bertuzzi.

What do y'all think he's worth?

Pods Floor is significantly lower then the player Tyler currently is, Woo from the majority of sources seems to have regressed this year, Sutter is a cap dump, and the first is going to be at least 24, but probably higher..

Would attaching conditions to the first make it more palatable ?

 

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2 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said:

There's our future, dumped all in(to) the abyss.

Yup

 

Where's @48MPHSlapShot? He's got a running theme about these kind of threads.

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44 minutes ago, BoeserThanYou said:

So the main issue seems to be with the second package, and the value of Bertuzzi.

What do y'all think he's worth?

Pods Floor is significantly lower then the player Tyler currently is, Woo from the majority of sources seems to have regressed this year, Sutter is a cap dump, and the first is going to be at least 24, but probably higher..

Would attaching conditions to the first make it more palatable ?

 

It's 2 first round picks (and then some) for.... Tyler Bertuzzi

I'm sure you remember the reactions when we recently traded just 1? And for a better player.. 

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33 minutes ago, luckylager said:

Yup

 

Where's @48MPHSlapShot? He's got a running theme about these kind of threads.

That 1st gif is Nashville. 

 

Forsberg is a 30 goal scorer and a core player for them.  He's their best forward and probably the only one that can really take over a game.  I don't even think they'd consider doing Boeser for Forsberg.  Forsberg scores in so many different ways and can play a power forward game.  

 

Eriksson is a cap dump.  Tanev an upcoming UFA - would be a 3rd pairing D in Nashville.  Canucks intend to sign Markstrom - losing Demko for someone as versatile as Forsberg is negligible.  Lind might never make the league and a 2nd round pick is a giant question mark.  

 

There's really nothing in it for Nashville other than Demko.  They have already ear-marked Saros as the heir to Rinne and they have AHL-all star goalie Connor Ingram waiting in the wings.  

 

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Posted (edited)

Hey there. Good on ya for posting some ideas. Unlike some on here, I don't get upset that you like to think about how to make our team better and post your thoughts for discussion. So please don't be put off by the negativity.

 

Of course these deals won't happen. We're all just spit balling. And in my personal opinion I think that the Canucks should not go all in this year, it is too early for their young core.

 

But hey, in response to your OP, I think the roster you have proposed is not quite a Cup contender (and neither is mine below), but I would rather keep Tanev over Hamhuis, and I think Demko is essential as a decent backup for Marky. So here are some possible changes to your three deals to get a top 6 winger plus Tyler Bert without losing Tanev and Demko:

 

Deal 1:

To MIN - Lind, Leivo, 2021 2nd

To VAN - Zucker

 

Deal 2:

To DET - Podkolzin, Sutter, Stecher

To VAN - Bertuzzi

 

Deal 3:

Sign Tryamkin to $2.5m

Waive Eriksson, MacEwen

 

Total cap out = $10.1m

Total cap in = $9.4m

 

Miller Pettersson Boeser

Pearson Horvat Zucker

Bertuzzi Gaudette Virtanen

Roussel Beagle Motte

Schaller

(LTIR = Ferland, Graovac; Utica depth = Eriksson, MacEwen, Baer, Goldobin)

 

Edler Myers

Hughes Tanev

Benn Tryamkin

Fantenberg

(Utica depth = Rafferty, Teves, Brisebois, OJ)

 

Markstrom Demko

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1 hour ago, mll said:

That 1st gif is Nashville. 

 

Forsberg is a 30 goal scorer and a core player for them.  He's their best forward and probably the only one that can really take over a game.  I don't even think they'd consider doing Boeser for Forsberg.  Forsberg scores in so many different ways and can play a power forward game.  

 

Eriksson is a cap dump.  Tanev an upcoming UFA - would be a 3rd pairing D in Nashville.  Canucks intend to sign Markstrom - losing Demko for someone as versatile as Forsberg is negligible.  Lind might never make the league and a 2nd round pick is a giant question mark.  

 

There's really nothing in it for Nashville other than Demko.  They have already ear-marked Saros as the heir to Rinne and they have AHL-all star goalie Connor Ingram waiting in the wings.  

 

The first gif was actually anyone of sane mind thinking about a hockey trade.

It's bad for both sides.

We're not having a problem scoring, which is awesome, but Hamhuis could only improve our D by putting Baumer into a submission hold and taking his job.

And the D is by far our biggest problem. 

 

 

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I am going to revamp this for you...………..

 

To Nashville...………….Pearson, Hoglander, 2021-1st, Juolevi, and Eriksson

 

To Vancouver...………..Filip Forsberg (LW)

 

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To Detroit...…………….Podkolzin, Sutter and Demko

 

To Vancouver...………..Tyler Bertuzzi  (LW/RW)

 

___________________

 

To Ottawa...…………….Woo, Lind and Stecher

 

To Vancouver ......……...Christian Jaros

 

____________________

 

To Carolina...……………..Myers, Madden

 

To Vancouver ……………Pesce

 

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Cap out...………………...Eriksson (6,000,000), Sutter (4,375,000), Myers (6,000,000) and Stecher (RFA 3,500,000) = $17,875,000

 

Cap In......………………..Forsberg (6,000,000), Bertuzzi (RFA 5,000,000), Pesce (4,025,000), and Jaros (RFA 1,000,000) = $16,025,000

 

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2021 Canuck Line-up...…...Top 10

 

Forsberg / Pettersson / Boeser

Bertuzzi / Horvat / Miller

Roussel / Gaudette / Virtanen

Motte / Beagle / McEwen

 

Hughes / Pesce

Edler / Tanev

Tryamkin / Jaros

Rathbone / Rafferty

 

Markstrom / DiPietro

 

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OK...…….Here is the problems

 

#1...……..Your Prospect cupboard is bare

#2...……..No 1st for the next 2 years

#3...……..Who are you going to protect in the Expansion draft?

#4...……..Who are your injury replacements?

#5...……..What are you going to pay your RFA's with?

#6...……..You have UFA's coming the next year

 

 

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Use the same questions for your proposal, which isn't that far off mine

 

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I think we should just keep who we got and try to move some cap out if we can

 

 

 

 

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