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Trade Proposal:

To NYR: 

J.Leivo  (LW) 26y

 R.Boucher (LW) 26y

G.Brisbois (D) 22y

 

 

To Van: 

K.Kreider (LW) 28 

4th in 2020 (3rd  if Ranger make playoffs)

 

Miller.     Petterson.   Boeser 

Kreider.     Horvat.       Motte 

Pearson   Gaudette  Virtanen 

Ferland     Beagle.     Eriksson 

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Just now, -AJ- said:

Rangers laugh and hang up the phone.

Even if you remove Kreider from the package, I don’t think they take that offer.

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20 minutes ago, Kulashaker said:

Trade Proposal:

To NYR: 

J.Leivo  (LW) 26y

 R.Boucher (LW) 26y

G.Brisbois (D) 22y

 

 

To Van: 

K.Kreider (LW) 28 

4th in 2020 (3rd  if Ranger make playoffs)

 

Miller.     Petterson.   Boeser 

Kreider.     Horvat.       Motte 

Pearson   Gaudette  Virtanen 

Ferland     Beagle.     Eriksson 

Would you move Bo for Leivo, Boucher, and Brisbois? Think about what it took to get Miller from Tampa. Starts with a 1st++

 

UFA at the end of the year, could go after him then, IF the Rangers don't sign him to an extension. (which they probably will)

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Wow you majorly overvalue Kreider , Reid Boucher alone is the leading pts getter in the Ahl this year and Brisbois will be a top 4 d man . Leivo can make any top nine better .  3 positions filled with 2 top prospects  for a 28 year old top 6 LW'er  .  I would how ever throw Beartchi in to balance the salary so then you have 2 nhl ready top 6 players , and 2 nhl  ready prospects that are tops in AHL.  Youd be crazy not to take that.

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2 minutes ago, Kulashaker said:

Wow you majorly overvalue Kreider , Reid Boucher alone is the leading pts getter in the Ahl this year and Brisbois will be a top 4 d man . Leivo can make any top nine better .  3 positions filled with 2 top prospects  for a 28 year old top 6 LW'er  .  I would how ever throw Beartchi in to balance the salary so then you have 2 nhl ready top 6 players , and 2 nhl  ready prospects that are tops in AHL.  Youd be crazy not to take that.

I do agree, that Bo is the superior player this year, and Miller has exceeded expectations. But Bo and Kreider have almost the same track record stat wise over the last 5 years (so does Miller), and both key pieces of the leadership group on their respective teams, that's why the comparison. Boucher's AHL game doesn't transfer well to the NHL as we've seen, Breezer, need a bigger NHL sample size to get a better idea of where he's at before we go proclaiming top 4. I'd definitely like to keep Leivo if possible, because yes, he has been great for us this year. Just not sure we have what the rangers would want for him.

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Dude has essentially scored or at a 20 goal pace for the past 7 NHL seasons and is under 30 years old isn't going to be had for a bunch of spare parts.  Who cares what they did in the AHL.  Former Canucks prospect Subban was an allstar in the AHL.  Kreider scored 25 or more TWICE so far in the NHL.  Think he's on pace for another 25 goal season.

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Krieder has been mentioned to not be interested in playing for a Canadian team. So this trade proposal is moot. I don't care how Todd feels about it either.

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JT Miller is #7 scoring LW and Pearson is #22 in the entire NHL.  Kreider is #26.  Why do we need him.  We also have Ferland and Leivo.  4 players that don't cost us anything in trade value and give us a very good LW. 

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4 hours ago, Kulashaker said:

Wow you majorly overvalue Kreider , Reid Boucher alone is the leading pts getter in the Ahl this year and Brisbois will be a top 4 d man . Leivo can make any top nine better .  3 positions filled with 2 top prospects  for a 28 year old top 6 LW'er  .  I would how ever throw Beartchi in to balance the salary so then you have 2 nhl ready top 6 players , and 2 nhl  ready prospects that are tops in AHL.  Youd be crazy not to take that.

.... Reid Boucher and NHL prospect?  The guy is 26!!  Every team has fringe guys like Brisebois.

 

Leivo is a pending UFA so of absolutely no use to a team that except trading one really good rental for a “meh” rental that objectively makes them worse, but not bad enough to ensure a really high pick.

 

Remember when Jason King was traded for a top line forward?  Neither do I.

 

Kreider will likely return them a late 1st rounder or a really good prospect.

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and how is Kreider gonna fit under the canucks cap anyways  Rangers  retaining all the salary as well? would be nice  but cant see it happening 

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7 hours ago, Kulashaker said:

Trade Proposal:

To NYR: 

J.Leivo  (LW) 26y

 R.Boucher (LW) 26y

G.Brisbois (D) 22y

 

 

To Van: 

K.Kreider (LW) 28 

4th in 2020 (3rd  if Ranger make playoffs)

 

Miller.     Petterson.   Boeser 

Kreider.     Horvat.       Motte 

Pearson   Gaudette  Virtanen 

Ferland     Beagle.     Eriksson 

Haha...ok.  A few problems with this:

 

1. We trade almost no cap out and would need to be able to fit Kreider in?  How is that done exactly?

2. We ship out a 3rd liner, a prolific AHL scorer who won't make the NHL, and an ok D prospect for a 1st liner?  NY does not do this.

3. And NY is the one to throw in a pick?

 

Awful proposal....no offence lol.

 

 

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Taylor Hall traded in exchange for a 2020 conditional first-round draft pick, a conditional 2021 third-rounder, along with forward prospects Nate Schnarr, Nick Merkley and defenceman Kevin Bahl ......hummmmmm  so what yall saying is kreider is more valuable then Hall ? Is he 1/2 as good??  Is he worth a 1st round and 3 prospects ?  Look at the last 10 major trades.. .Nyr needs roster players bottom 6 ....they have a pretty good prospect pool.  They need a Ferland/ Levio / goldobin or Baertchi etc .  Plus a prospect or 2    ...

 

how bout 

Ferland 

Stecher 

Baertchi 

and a 3rd in 21

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On 1/19/2020 at 12:55 AM, Kulashaker said:

Taylor Hall traded in exchange for a 2020 conditional first-round draft pick, a conditional 2021 third-rounder, along with forward prospects Nate Schnarr, Nick Merkley and defenceman Kevin Bahl ......hummmmmm  so what yall saying is kreider is more valuable then Hall ? Is he 1/2 as good??  Is he worth a 1st round and 3 prospects ?  Look at the last 10 major trades.. .Nyr needs roster players bottom 6 ....they have a pretty good prospect pool.  They need a Ferland/ Levio / goldobin or Baertchi etc .  Plus a prospect or 2    ...

 

how bout 

Ferland 

Stecher 

Baertchi 

and a 3rd in 21

Either bad troll or....

 

1st

3rd 

Merkley(1st rounder)

Kevin bahl a big huge stud d man, likely a top 4 once developed, a 2nd rounder that should have gone in the 1st.

 

For  

 

A few months of taylor hall. Terrible trade for arizona.

 

In any of your proposals the value is ridiculously low in favour of the canucks.

 

Krieder has never won league MVP.

 

Krieder will never be a canuck after breaking Petey's nose.

 

Krieder is redundant and not needed. 

Virtanen is looking to be that player, pushing Ferland, Roussel, Leivo down the line up.

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On 1/16/2020 at 9:20 AM, Kulashaker said:

Trade Proposal:

To NYR: 

J.Leivo  (LW) 26y

 R.Boucher (LW) 26y

G.Brisbois (D) 22y

 

 

To Van: 

K.Kreider (LW) 28 

4th in 2020 (3rd  if Ranger make playoffs)

 

Miller.     Petterson.   Boeser 

Kreider.     Horvat.       Motte 

Pearson   Gaudette  Virtanen 

Ferland     Beagle.     Eriksson 

Who gets Todd though, which way is he going

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