Chicken. Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I would, without even blinking. He's a tank. I do wonder though why GMJB didn't sign him for league minimum-ish then in the off season I thought for sure he would. Seems unlikely he will pick him up now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Chicken. said: I do wonder though why GMJB didn't sign him for league minimum-ish then in the off season I thought for sure he would. Seems unlikely he will pick him up now. Only thing I can think of is Benning thought he'd over achieved, and probably couldn't keep that kind of solid play for a whole season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mll Posted January 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicken. said: I do wonder though why GMJB didn't sign him for league minimum-ish then in the off season I thought for sure he would. Seems unlikely he will pick him up now. He tried but Schenn opted to sign in Tampa. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Only thing I can think of is Benning thought he'd over achieved, and probably couldn't keep that kind of solid play for a whole season? Schenn decided to go to Tampa. An offer was made to him by Benning. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nucker 67 Posted January 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2020 Trade Stecher to the Leafs (for ?) and then sign Schenn. He might be a little slower, but he brings size, smarts and truculence. He's cheap and it would make Hughes happy too. I think I'd rather have Schenn as an option going into the playoffs. Edler - Myers Hughes - Tanev Fantenberg - Benn Schenn Rafferty Brisebois Juolevi Tryamkin* 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Ignoring contracts. Schenn vs. Myers Speed: Myers Reach: Myers Physicality: Schenn Defensive ability: Schenn (Positionally at least) The advantage is Myers because if his size and speed doesn't get deked out. But he will sometimes be too aggressive against the forward and over commit and be put out of position. I haven't seen much of Schenn this season. So maybe he's slowed down more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted January 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2020 I really like Schenn - he was fun in his time here, and solid enough under the circumstances - but let's be real - he's a good #8 D / #4RHD - who would be buried hopelessly deeply beneath Tanev, Myers, Stecher = as long as they are healthy, he's a long-term scratch and waiver material. The idea that he belonged in the top 4 (as did Hutton apparetly) was a hopelessly bad idea - and moreover, the common idea on these boards that he should have played alongside Quinn Hughes this year would have been a commitment to another tank season. I personally am happy not to be watching Huttons, Schenns, et al in the top 4 - I think Benning made the right call pursuing Myers and adding depth like Benn, Fantenburg. Benn has been somwhat disappointing - but at the same time, the team wasn't really equipped to handle a loss like Edler - in his absence, with Benn stepping up to effectively the #1LHdefensive D, the team was in trouble - and Fantenburg effectively leap-frogged him through that opportunity. I'm not surprised Green continued to go with Fantenburg over Benn after Edler's return - he was better than Benn during that opportunity to get into the lineup. Schenn just doesn't have the feet/mobility to play that role on a competitive hockey team. He's a prototypical depth, exclusively role / shutdown D but doesn't have the necessary versatility imo to play the kind of role you need beside a player like Hughes. Tanev has been outstanding in that sense - in spite of his lack of physicality. That pairing's first pass, their puck retrieval, and their crafty defensive finesse have been excellent - particularly when the team has some heavier forwards and outstanding defensive forwards to support them (Miiller, Horvat, Pearson, Sutter, Beagle, Motte, Virtanen....Leivo, Ferland, Roussel....) Anyhow - I wish Schenn the best and wouldn't be surprised if an injured or shallower team took the opportunity to add him (depending on their needs) = he is a serviceable role/depth D. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Trade Stecher to the Leafs (for ?) and then sign Schenn. He might be a little slower, but he brings size, smarts and truculence. He's cheap and it would make Hughes happy too. I think I'd rather have Schenn as an option going into the playoffs. Edler - Myers Hughes - Tanev Fantenberg - Benn Schenn Rafferty Brisebois Juolevi Tryamkin* I'd trade Tanev instead of Stecher. He has more value to other teams, and I have a feeling that this is his last season as a Canuck. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Trade Stecher to the Leafs (for ?) and then sign Schenn. He might be a little slower, but he brings size, smarts and truculence. He's cheap and it would make Hughes happy too. I think I'd rather have Schenn as an option going into the playoffs. Edler - Myers Hughes - Tanev Fantenberg - Benn Schenn Rafferty Brisebois Juolevi Tryamkin* Benning doesn't go after Schenn because of the names you have on your list. Schenn has got into 15 games with TBay this year. IMO the Canuck depth and the possible return of Tryamkin does not work for Schenn. If there was a deal for Stecher that might change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I'd trade Tanev instead of Stecher. He has more value to other teams, and I have a feeling that this is his last season as a Canuck. Does he have more value? When healthy yes. But that doesn't happen that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Does he have more value? When healthy yes. But that doesn't happen that often. I believe he does. His reputation around the league is still stellar. Considered one of the better defensive defensemen in the league. Stecher, while tenacious, doesn't have that same reputation. His size isn't helping him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I believe he does. His reputation around the league is still stellar. Considered one of the better defensive defensemen in the league. Stecher, while tenacious, doesn't have that same reputation. His size isn't helping him either. It's like a Miata that never breaks down, compared to a truck that breaks down constantly. I'm just thinking any GM that wants Tanev who takes 60 seconds to look into him, will see that he hasn't played over 60 games since 2015-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: It's like a Miata that never breaks down, compared to a truck that breaks down constantly. I'm just thinking any GM that wants Tanev who takes 60 seconds to look into him, will see that he hasn't played over 60 games since 2015-16. They also see that 90% of his injuries are freak accidents. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Yeah, Benn's really tearing it up, isn't he? Benn is far better than Schenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: They also see that 90% of his injuries are freak accidents. Canuck luck. Lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 What I see in Stecher is a player who seems to have to work twice as hard as anyone else, just to be effective. He isn't physical, but will take a beating and try to play physical. I think he's been lucky with the injury bug so far, but for how long? He's supposed to be an offensive Dman but he never seems to score. A lot of times he jumps in the play and gets caught up, then doesn't have the speed to get back, like Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Canuck luck. Lol. I still stand by if we trade Tanev and Sutter they both go on to play 75+ games per year 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, stawns said: Benn is far better than Schenn And Fantenburg is probably better than Benn. The team is progressing further into it's up-tempo, two-way blueprint - and Fantenburg's mobility (as well as probably a better first pass and quicker decision-making to go along with it) seems to have earned him a leap-frog over Benn in the depth chart. I'd qualify that, however, by saying that Benn was forced to step up - perhaps to an uncomfortable degree in Edler's absence - somewhat exposing him - and there is a possibility that this is not simply a 'merit' matter - there is a chance that Benn is not entirely healthy - but my take would be that Fantenburg is a better fit in that 3LHD spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Chicken. said: I do wonder though why GMJB didn't sign him for league minimum-ish then in the off season I thought for sure he would. Seems unlikely he will pick him up now. Schenn went for greener pastures in hopes for a chance to win a Cup. We "revived" his career and he moved on. I had wished him the best, but we made an offer (probably takes over Fantenberg's spot with more opportunity here) and he left, so we are moving on. He likely clears waivers anyway. I appreciate what he did for Hughes as he entered the league, but that time is done. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Trade Stecher to the Leafs (for ?) and then sign Schenn. He might be a little slower, but he brings size, smarts and truculence. He's cheap and it would make Hughes happy too. I think I'd rather have Schenn as an option going into the playoffs. Edler - Myers Hughes - Tanev Fantenberg - Benn Schenn Rafferty Brisebois Juolevi Tryamkin* Stecher played 18+ minutes last night. Why would we downgrade our roster at this point if we are thinking about the playoffs? If we get Tryamkin back this season, then someone like Schenn is moot anyway. This won't make Hughes any happier than he is already playing top 4 minutes and excelling in the league. I appreciate Schenn for helping Hughes ease into the league, but we don't have much further use for him since we have Fantenberg already who is younger and a better skater and currently making a mark on the team forcing Benn to sit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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