tan Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) To: Chi LE + Juolevi + 2020 2nd + 2021 first + Goldobin (or some other grade B prospects) To: Van Patrick Kane (retain this year's half salary) Why Van do this: Kane is a playoff monster. And producing like 100 points a season with 3 more seasons left in his contract. He will instantly strength our top line and make us contender in the next 3 years. Why Chi do this: Chi is rebuilding. They will go nowhere with current aging roster. sell high, dump salary, collect prospects and draft picks is the way to go. The roster of next 3 years: (It is almost the best top 9 of the league). Kane Petterson Miller Boeser Horvat Pearson Virtanen Gaudette Roussel(Leivo) MacEwen Beagle Filler Edited January 21, 2020 by tan 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 In the highly unlikely event of this even being remotely considered by the two GM's - Kane waives his NMC exactly why? It's not like playoffs are a guarantee for us by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKSR Posted January 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2020 Did you seriously put Patrick Kane in a trade that involves Loui Eriksson? 1 1 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 If Kane ever gets traded, its to a team of his choice and for a monster return. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikal Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I want to live in this fantasy world. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Would you trade Pettersson for Smith, Mitchell, a 2nd, 1st, and Sikura? Didn’t think so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xereau Posted January 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2020 Patrick Kane is already on our team, and he wears #43. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, tan said: To: Chi LE + Juolevi + 2019 2nd + 2020 first + Goldobin (or some other grade B prospects) To: Van Patrick Kane (retain this year's half salary) Why Van do this: Kane is a playoff monster. And producing like 100 points a season with 3 more seasons left in his contract. He will instantly strength our top line and make us contender in the next 3 years. Why Chi do this: Chi is rebuilding. They will go nowhere with current roster. sell high, dump salary collect prospects and draft picks is the way to go. The roster of next 3 years: (It is almost the best top 9 of the league). Kane Petterson Miller Boeser Horvat Pearson Virtanen Gaudette Roussel(Leivo) MacEwen Beagle Filler Among the many things wrong here, Chicago cant retain salary on only 1 year of Kane’s contract (like they’d be willing to to begin with). It’s retain fir the entire term of the contract or not at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pears said: Would you trade Pettersson for Smith, Mitchell, a 2nd, 1st, and Sikura? Didn’t think so. Kane is at the end-ish of his career. you are comparing orange and apple. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Among the many things wrong here, Chicago cant retain salary on only 1 year of Kane’s contract (like they’d be willing to to begin with). It’s retain fir the entire term of the contract or not at all if GMs wants to make deal done. I am sure they can find out a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tan Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, xereau said: Patrick Kane is already on our team, and he wears #43. we want one more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, tan said: To: Chi LE + Juolevi + 2019 2nd + 2020 first + Goldobin (or some other grade B prospects) To: Van Patrick Kane (retain this year's half salary) Why Van do this: Kane is a playoff monster. And producing like 100 points a season with 3 more seasons left in his contract. He will instantly strength our top line and make us contender in the next 3 years. Why Chi do this: Chi is rebuilding. They will go nowhere with current roster. sell high, dump salary collect prospects and draft picks is the way to go. The roster of next 3 years: (It is almost the best top 9 of the league). Kane Petterson Miller Boeser Horvat Pearson Virtanen Gaudette Roussel(Leivo) MacEwen Beagle Filler Okay, where to start...... Yes, Patrick Kane is a great player and still performing incredibly well. However, he is now 31 years old and will be starting to decline in a year or two. I would like to move LE, but not at the expense of adding another high dollar contract (even with 50% retained, its still 5.25 million), and longer term. Take a look at who we have to sign 2 - 4 years out and ask if you would rather sign them, or have an aging Patrick Kane around tying up the space we need for them. This scenario gives up WAY too much, even if it is Patrick Kane. If he was still in his mid...ish 20's, then great, but players don't play forever and he is well past the midway point of his career. Considering Benning's ability to find guys in the draft, I'd much rather keep Eriksson and if necessary buy him out this summer and keep the draft picks and prospects. IMO, we're much further ahead in that scenario. Remember, these trades don't always work out the way that you hope when adding older players. Look at San Jose with Karlsson, He's still putting up points, but they have not performed well as a team since making that trade. It could be argued that they gave away FAR too much in younger depth to go all in. That approach doesn't work as often as it used to in the NHL. The cap creates whole new dynamics. You're better to build from within and add selectively for depth. 11.5 million per year at that term for someone who's turning 30 before the end of the season and is committed for another 7 years after this, that's a hard number to move. IMO, trust Benning, stay the course and unless another deal like snagging Miller, comes along, keep developing our draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, tan said: if GMs wants to make deal done. I am sure they can find out a way. No. There’s no way around it. It’s a concrete rule. oh. And did I mention Vancouver can’t actually trade their 1st this year because if they make the playoffs it’s already going to Tampa? Edited January 17, 2020 by qwijibo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, tan said: Kane is at the end-ish of his career. you are comparing orange and apple. He’s 32 and still one of the best players in the league...I think you need to take a step back and realize Chicago isn’t gonna take scraps for an all time talent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) Kane is a fantastic player but 10 million and he is 30 yrs old.. We need to keep on path we are on and can't give up another 1st round pick as Tampa have Canucks 1st rounder in either 2020 or 2021 draft. This Canuck team is going to be power house lets be patient and not trade away high picks and prospect. We are not a cup contented just yet but we are getting closer.. Future is very bright and exciting.. Edited January 18, 2020 by wildcam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, tan said: To: Chi LE + Juolevi + 2019 2nd + 2020 first + Goldobin (or some other grade B prospects) To: Van Patrick Kane (retain this year's half salary) Why Van do this: Kane is a playoff monster. And producing like 100 points a season with 3 more seasons left in his contract. He will instantly strength our top line and make us contender in the next 3 years. Why Chi do this: Chi is rebuilding. They will go nowhere with current roster. sell high, dump salary collect prospects and draft picks is the way to go. The roster of next 3 years: (It is almost the best top 9 of the league). Kane Petterson Miller Boeser Horvat Pearson Virtanen Gaudette Roussel(Leivo) MacEwen Beagle Filler trading a prime player Kane ( with salary retained )for LE (lol). joulevi ( still could be a asset to the canucks ). 2019 2nd ( how is that possible when we are in 2020). 2020 first ( ummm cant trade what we already traded to TB for miller) definitely wont happen P.S who in the hell is Filler did he get traded for Motte ? Edited January 17, 2020 by the grinder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 damn yet another deal where canucks get the top end player by miles for scraps silly kane was the top productive player of the 2000's he is still on the top of his game he is still elite and will cost a bundle you will feel hurt by what it will cost to acquire him the proposal set out above does not hurt much at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, coastal.view said: damn yet another deal where canucks get the top end player by miles for scraps silly kane was the top productive player of the 2000's he is still on the top of his game he is still elite and will cost a bundle you will feel hurt by what it will cost to acquire him the proposal set out above does not hurt much at all Yep. If a Kane trade was even a remote possibility you’re probably looking at Boeser, Höglander, Demko, Juolevi, and 2 1st round picks at least and even then I think they still hang up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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