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18 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

We had one tell my mother in law that she definitely had "early Alzheimers" but he had supplements that would reverse it :blink: criminal malpractice if you ask me on that one.

 

But if you can find one that helps you be proactive thats great. My issue isn't with any particular individual, more that theres no oversight when you get a quack. 

Agreed. And unfortunately, the quacks give the good ones a bad name.

 

There's nothing wrong with appropriately administered 'traditional' medicine and it can indeed be less invasive and more proactive for some things. Particularly chronic conditions in my experience.

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1 hour ago, Wilbur said:

This.  Capitalism is a very good system in many ways, but when food companies can externalize costs such as negative health impacts to its customers and environmental damage, it will never be an even playing field.  Don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but something has to be figured out.

I love this post so much I quoted it just so more people will hopefully read it :wub:

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4 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Agreed. And unfortunately, the quacks give the good ones a bad name.

 

There's nothing wrong with appropriately administered 'traditional' medicine and it can indeed be less invasive and more proactive for some things. Particularly chronic conditions in my experience.

thats true, some people do get relief for arthritis from certain plants, things like that for sure. I think any good GP would have you look at anything reasonable that brings you benefit with no harm. 

 

I really like the one we have, he's pretty pro-plant based diet but isn't pushy about it. 

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On 5/8/2020 at 8:07 AM, High and Inside said:

What about all the other negative consequences of this virus due to lockdowns? Economic damage. Domestic abuse, mental health, starvation, child abuse, depression, suicide just to name a few. Yes I realize if you allow things to open freely you will have problems too as you mentioned there will be very small percentages of the younger population that is affected. No matter what route you take it’s a sad situation and we can’t just make this perfect for everyone. 
 

your right Sweden is around 30 percent right now versus neighbouring countries that are at like 2 percent. If there is a second wave it likely won’t affect Sweden as they have more built in immunity then a country like Norway. We won’t know until this is over what was truly the right strategy. One area in Sweden where they screwed up was in the care homes and you’ll notice I’ve never suggested that we expose anybody that’s vulnerable and asa society we should even more to help those people in this crisis. 
 

whatever route is taken it has to be sustainable. Already a lockdown is proving to be something that can’t be prolonged. Nothing has really changed since we closed down the country and now we’re reopening society because of outside pressure. Eventually we will be in  exactly the same spot we were in March but severely damaged from the lockdown consequences.

 

I respect your opinion and when it’s all

said and done will know what was right and what was wrong . have a good day. 

not sure there is a right way

the current approach is clearly impacted by the assumption that treatments and vaccines are coming soon

i do acknowledge that the outlook on these developments has been overly optimistic so far

there is one promising treatment/medication currently... others appear to be viable soon

 

but this approach could take the same course (and time) as successful treatment has taken for hiv

and a virus for which there is still not a vaccine (and it has been around for decades now)

it does seem more likely that some sort of compound medication regime will achieve success

but that clearly would take more time

no vaccine has been successfully developed for sars which hit in 2003

and this is a sars type virus

 

so right now the hope/faith of most seems to be that medicine and science is the answer

it may end up providing the strongest solutions

but the problem really is time

 

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Coronavirus - Wuhan reports 5 five new COVID-19 cases, the highest since March 11

Mon 11 May 2020 01:36:13 GMT

 

 Wuhan was the epicentre of the outbreak in China, but has dropped out of the news as the situation improved.

  • Today though, an uptick, five new locally transmitted COVID-19 cases, all in the same residential compound in the city.
In total China reported 17 new cases today (for May 10) - the highest since April 28.
In a bigger picture sense this indicates there is no room for complacency even in places where iot appears the outbreak is under control. 
 
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As expected some places where restrictions have been eased have seen a swift rise in infection.
 
South Korea  re-opened Night clubs and saw 50 new infections. Same type of stories out of Germany.
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Hong Kong man infected with a rat strain of hepatitis E in April

Mon 11 May 2020 00:44:12 GMT

 

The coronavirus health pandemic was, apparently,. first transmitted from a bat to a human.

Now it looks like there is a rat to human transmission of another disease. CNN report on a rat strain of the hepatitis E virus (HEV) being found in humans:
  • 10 Hong Kong residents have tested positive with rat HEV
  • most recent case a 61-year-old man tested positive on April 30
  • "Based on the available epidemiological information, the source and the route of infection could not be determined," said Hong Kong's Centre for Health Protection (CHP) in a statement on April 30. The man is still in the hospital, and the CHP's investigation is ongoing.
  • there might be hundreds more infected undiagnosed people out there
Oh dear …. that " source and the route of infection could not be determined" is a worry.
 
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Piss Off 2020.
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1 minute ago, nuckin_futz said:

Calls mount for DeWine to restart jobs - The Lima News

Those 5g towers better have some protection!

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On 5/7/2020 at 7:12 PM, The 5th Line said:

@Cerridwen @RUPERTKBD @Me_ @canuck73_3

 

You all supported this fellows post ^ 

 

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=229772

 

Do you think when I recommend vitamins, I'm telling everyone that they don't need to live a healthy lifestyle as long as they have a bottle of pills beside them? There is plenty of evidence that supplements along with a healthy lifestyle can help fight off infectious diseases.  

 

https://www.nutraingredients.com/Article/2020/04/23/Public-Health-England-extends-Vitamin-D-supplement-advice-during-lockdown

 

But people already know enough about health and vitamin D.  Right?   Well, less than 31% of Brits are aware that Vitamin D supplementation is recommended in the wintertime.  

 

https://www.dairynutrition.ca/nutrients-in-milk-products/vitamin-d/vitamin-d-status-of-canadians-results-from-the-canadian-health-measures-survey

 

These dairynutrition surveys are from 2013

 

31% of Canadians are insufficient in vitamin D/  10% of those 31% are deficient.  So approximately 15 million people in Canada are not getting enough Vitamin D and 5 of those 15 million are deficient

 

Now I'll tell you what Vitamin D doesn't do... It doesn't create large profit for big pharma.

Living a healthy lifestyle is good for you. Shocking. 
 

I take Vitamin D supplements in the long winter months. Among other healthy lifestyle choices.

 

Literally no one is saying don't just hide inside and not boost your immunity. We’re simply stating to be cautious about how you interact with the public until this passes or a vaccine is created. 
 

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26 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Living a healthy lifestyle is good for you. Shocking. 
 

I take Vitamin D supplements in the long winter months. Among other healthy lifestyle choices.

 

Literally no one is saying don't just hide inside and not boost your immunity. We’re simply stating to be cautious about how you interact with the public until this passes or a vaccine is created. 
 

Okkaayyy?  Why is this relevant?  Who said not to be cautious in public if you have vit D?    And you said "we're" as if cerridwen and Me_ were actually making some sort of contribution lol

 

And what's with the Healthy Lifestyle comment?   I didn't make a blanket statement about  a "healthy lifestyle" being good for you  I'm talking about Vit D supplements along with a healthy lifestyle may help fight off covid...?   Cause that's what the data is showing... You know, science.  

 

You take Vit D supps?  Good for you, your levels are probably fine but you should get them checked anyways if you can 

 

 

Alright I definitely want an answer to this question:

 

There's approximately 12 million people in Canada who are insufficient in Vit D.  What would you say to them all right now if you could?  

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25 minutes ago, Me_ said:

Did you hoard up a massive load of Vitamin D like toilet paper and now you’re trying to get rid of your stash?

 

Here are other subjects of interest besides vitamin D.

 

Vitamin A

Vitamin B1

Vitamin B2

Vitamin B3

Vitamin B5

Vitamin B6

Vitamin B7

Vitamin B9

Vitamin B12

Vitamin C

Vitamin E

Vitamin K

 

Major Minerals

Calcium

Chloride

Magnesium

Phosphorus

Potassium

Sodium

Sulphur

 

Trace minerals

Chromium

Copper

Fluoride

Iodine

Iron

Manganese

Molybdenum 

Selenium

Zinc


All you have to do is chose one and talk about it.

 

Really?  Do they all have studies conducted on them showing overwhelming correlation in regards to covid-19 survival/death rates?  No, they don't.  

 

Hey, at least you tried.  

 

Epic fail 

 

 

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1 minute ago, The 5th Line said:

Really?  Do they all have studies conducted on them showing overwhelming correlation in regards to covid-19 survival/death rates?  No, they don't.  

 

Hey, at least you tried.  

 

 

No they are all essential to a balanced life.

 

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1 minute ago, Me_ said:

No they are all essential to a balanced life.

 

Sorry I thought I was in the Covid-19 thread not the balanced life thread 

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Just now, The 5th Line said:

Sorry I thought I was in the Covid-19 thread not the balanced life thread 

Yeah we got what your saying last week. 
 

Verrrrrrry redundant. That’s the part you’re not getting.

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7 minutes ago, Me_ said:

Yeah we got what your saying last week. 
 

Verrrrrrry redundant. That’s the part you’re not getting.

New evidence and studies done everyday so I won't be considering it redundant anytime soon bud.  Lifesaving stuff we're talking about here.  

 

And actually, if there wasn't so many people trying to shut my idea of Vit D being a good idea down, I wouldn't still be responding to people.  

 

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8 minutes ago, The 5th Line said:

New evidence and studies done everyday so I won't be considering it redundant anytime soon bud.  Lifesaving stuff we're talking about here.  

 

Nope.

 

It’s Vitamin D; just part of good healthy living.

 

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