aGENT Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: @aGENT Yup, already covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 6 hours ago, aGENT said: Not sure he's considered 'young' or a 'prospect' anymore not to mention he ain't going to Utica.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, aGENT said: Yup, already covered. More asking about Karlsson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Can’t move young players who’ve “earned it” with out moving out some older veterans .benn Tanev sutter schaller LE. hope he sticks to this and sheds some of the old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Sign Markstrom and just expose him in a year. Losing him or Demko is not going to be the end of the world for the Canucks with DiPietro waiting in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 31 minutes ago, Glug Datt said: not to mention he ain't going to Utica.. Maybe that's why he's taking so long to get his butt over here... mentally preparing himself for Utica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 hours ago, aGENT said: Did I say it put an end to it? Like I said, it becomes a problem for another day. But there's no guarantee Demko wants to wait around for 3+ years while we decide either... I never said it's a sure thing we lose a goalie either. Though as of right now, that would probably our forecasted best player available. We could leave Myers unprotected though as well and look to clear his salary depending on what the prospects look like in a couple years. Sorry aGent. Had I known there was endless discussion on the matter, I wouldn't have chimed in. I just think that Marky's new contract has nothing to do with who they decide will be the starting goalie after expansion. The question is, who will they protect? That decision will tell us who is the long term starter and obviously one of them will be moving on. Nobody is waiting 3 years. Only 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said: Benning as I said in my last post has come along way at how he approaches this team and how he manages the players. Great job Benning not just in drafting these young players but by properly managing them as well. Biggest improvement Benning has made as a GM is learning from past mistakes, and changing his management style to reflect the times we are in. This old dog does learn knew tricks Who knew? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 People can debate the efficacy of his transactions until the cows come home but the contrast in class and tact between Jim and many of his critics is quite noticeable .. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Funny how all the panic and concern (eg cap, coaching issues, etc) are completely brushed off by Benning. He hears his critics and is being humble rather than telling them to eat crow. Continues to show respect despite being crapped on for years. Seems true to his word that respect is highly preached amongst the organization and is building a foundation on that. Hopefully the fanbase (the vocal ones) follow suit soon and we all band(wagon) together in support of the team. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Gotta re-sign Markstrom. No way about it, need a starter. 6mil would be my tops though, I don't care about term. Have to fit 10 guys in under 18 mil - a chunk of that going to Marky, cap is still going to be tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said: So you walk away if he demands 6 and let him try his luck in UFA Cause I'm sure there are at least 5-10 teams that would give him 6-7 with term Perhaps, but with so many teams against the cap and with his actual save % and gaa being what they are, I am not sure there will be as many takers as you think. His basic stats don't really back up such a contract, and I am hoping that fact allows us to use such comparables to talk down the price. Even if we did sign him for that range, and there really would be so many takers, if we don't offer him a no trade clause then he is still a tradable asset. I haven't heard too much about Marky's desire to stay in Vancouver, but I can only hope he recognizes that this team spent nearly 6 years developing him to this point and let's be honest - we have only seen this level of play for about a year total. We have placed our faith in him and provided him a stable place to play, and I am hoping his first desire is not to up and jump ship to get the highest dollar. But if that is his intent, not much we can do about it. We can only pay so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 While i agree that resigning Markstrom would be a good idea, i don’t get this whole “Demko not ready” argument. I bet all of you, who think Demko is not ready, were absolutely sure that Binnington wasn’t ready for St Louis last year. He was the same age Demko is now with only 1 game in NHL when he was called up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 hours ago, RowdyCanuck said: But if he waits teams will have the power not Jim in a deal.... Sort of. But we give ourselves the right to be screwed, if you will? We can sign Marky & lose either he, or Demko? Or not sign Markstrom, and lose a defenseman. We are still going to lose someone. We can also not sign Tanev, or Tryamkin so we do not lose a defenceman! I also have 8 forwards I would like to be in a position to protect (Bo, Elias, Boeser, Miller, Ferland, Roussel, Gaudette, Motte & Jake. I suppose we dont have to protect Motte, otherwise it would be 9. And I think Roussel's contract will be up? But we can also suck next year, so we dont have to lose anybody! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, RomanP said: While i agree that resigning Markstrom would be a good idea, i don’t get this whole “Demko not ready” argument. I bet all of you, who think Demko is not ready, were absolutely sure that Binnington wasn’t ready for St Louis last year. He was the same age Demko is now with only 1 game in NHL when he was called up. I'm just concerned that Demko will have injury issues. Look at the last 2 years of his career. That's all I'm worried about, he's looking to be a really solid goaltender (although not proven yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I'd only give Marky 3x5 mill or let him walk. What will be sign for? 4x5.85 mill per Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 The most interesting part for me was that Ferland’s injury was not a concussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 6 hours ago, luckylager said: Well thanks to Ian Clark, Demko is looking better than Marky did at the same age. Demko is far more controlled in his movements and has a wonderful calm/collected, mature type vibe to his game. Handles the puck really well too. That said, he lacks experience, but does he actually need 2-3 years of insulation before it's fair to start him? I dunno. It's an interesting storyline with expansion looming though. On the prospects front, Tryamkin needs to be signed. Or trade his rights to Winnipeg or Minnesota to teach him a lesson about kicking the gift horse. Some posts on Utunen... give him another year in Fin to get stronger before bringing him to the A. He's too little. 26 NHL games and his net presence looks like he has played for years. Benning will be sure to have him here for his best years! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcy2 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Without Markstrom we might as well just give up. You don’t develop a guy for 5 years, now that he is finally that solid number one you hoped for, and then not sign him to an extension. It doesn’t make any sense. Demko is a good young goalie but he is not Markstrom. Simple, sign Markstrom, keep Demko as long as you can or just straight up trade Demko for a younger goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 hours ago, wildcam said: I think they will sign Markstrom to a deal fair for both 4 yrs x 5.5 million with clause in contract for expansion draft in 2021.. Demko will be ready to be starter by 2021 for sure and 5 years younger then Markstrom.. Either way we should get a great return in a trade for Markstrom 30 or Demko 25 ..One of these guys will be traded before Seattle expansion draft. In trade return should be a 1st rounder and young prospect .. Seattle is our neighbour but the NHL landscape is vast when you have farm teams along with juniors and collegiates. Seattle's goalie options are gonna be plentiful, they are not only focused at looking two hours north of the border. I have money on Benning retaining both goalies going through expansion. Seattle like Vegas will profit from Bettman's welfare arrangements throughout the lineup. Seattle will land a quality netminder for sure! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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