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[Trade] Kings trade Tyler Toffoli to Canucks for Tim Schaller, Tyler Madden, 2020 2nd-round pick, conditional 2022 4th-round pick

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5 minutes ago, HockeyHarry said:

Madden had future value to acquire younger assets and to keep the prospects pool stocked...or to be traded for a player who’s on a decent multi year contract.

 

In stead Jimbo was insecure about this team and made a desperate GM trade...Jimbo just doubled down on this 1 season of playoffs with draft picks. 

This trade is like trading Gaudette and a 2nd(hoglander or Woo) for a Rental hoping it guaranteess a few playoffs games....all because Jimbo and management are insecure with the team.

You should get a job as a scout. Seems you already know how future picks and players will develop. I could just as easily point to complete misses at the draft spots you have mentioned. Relax, enjoy the ride.

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5 minutes ago, Gollumpus said:

Hey, curling is on!

 

                        regards,  G.

TOR vs PIT hockey game is on. 

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57 minutes ago, Disgruntler said:

He asked which 7. Geez.

You included people already on the team. JB said seven to make the team in the next 2-3 years.

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5 hours ago, Disgruntler said:

Petey

Hughes

MacEwen

Bo

Gaudette

Virtanen

Motte

Wtf? Lol

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The more I think about it, Im really really liking the trade for Toffoli. I know Madden is going to be a good player, I get that, but as stated by many people, he isn't going to be overtaking taking any of the 1st to 3rd line centre spots, and probably has 2-3 years before you can say Madden is a full timer in this league. I know we didn't expect it but the window for us to win has opened half way and you have to take chance to make some noise with a weak western division. Also, look at the team we have right now, we have 3 top-4 calibre Dmen ( I know theyve been suspect as of late) and 1 superstar on the blueline, one of the best goalies this year so far. There is absolutely NO guarantee in 2-3 years that will have that depth in the blueline and in goal as I don't think Woo, Juolevi etc. are going to contributors to the extent of Tanev and Edler are right now. This team is good enough to make noise, especially if Brock comes back hopefully in mid-April.

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5 hours ago, Devron44 said:

Who do you guys think are the 7 young NHLers JB was taking about. Take a stab y’all

Well hes pbbly got 4 or 5 sure fired..

 

McEwen 

Podz 

Hogz 

Rafferty

OJ

 

Then he thinks 2 or 3 out of next 5 or 6 make it. 

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1 minute ago, debluvscanucks said:

Your spin on it seems SOOOO far off base.

 

It's more about being secure in the team.

 

Also...you put a whole lot out there that's speculation.  "Future value TO acquire....or to be traded for".  I'd like your crystal ball for the lottery numbers.

My Madden point was he was thrown away for kinda nothing....there’s better ways he could of been Handled.

 

kids (the CDC posters) just want candy here....and not wanting to brush with common sense....it’s all about the now with no care for a Better tomorrow and the next day after.....then they wonder why Canucks haven’t won a cup yet....cuz you need patience to do it right.

people here are looking for short cuts.

 

This Canucks seasons success will not be from this trade. It’s from the Players Canucks already had....this trade was just a GM fart.

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Wow... JB in close talks with NJD..

 

Simmonds, Vantanen, Palmieri ??

 

Benning is all in. I see another prospect going out. Can't give up more picks this years draft.

 

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Just now, WHL rocks said:

Wow... JB in close talks with NJD..

 

Simmonds, Vantanen, Palmieri ??

 

Benning is all in. I see another prospect going out. Can't give up more picks this years draft.

 

Any reports on that still?

 

Heard he didn't want to give up picks but I can see lesser prospects for Simmonds. I heard Vatanen is sideline and Palmeri would cost a bit

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1 minute ago, WHL rocks said:

Wow... JB in close talks with NJD..

 

Simmonds, Vantanen, Palmieri ??

 

Benning is all in. I see another prospect going out. Can't give up more picks this years draft.

 

Who are our untouchable prospects: Podkolzin, OJ, and DiPietro?  To rent Tofu cost Madden and a second.  If there are no picks included the Devils (who are clearly rebuilding) will expect a sure thing prospect.  I’m worried.  

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11 minutes ago, HockeyHarry said:

My Madden point was he was thrown away for kinda nothing....there’s better ways he could of been Handled.

 

kids (the CDC posters) just want candy here....and not wanting to brush with common sense....it’s all about the now with no care for a Better tomorrow and the next day after.....then they wonder why Canucks haven’t won a cup yet....cuz you need patience to do it right.

people here are looking for short cuts.

 

This Canucks seasons success will not be from this trade. It’s from the Players Canucks already had....this trade was just a GM fart.

There is no perfect recipe and you have to get there to win.  

 

Every team that gets in has a chance....if they get goaltending, good officiating, some luck, health.

 

It's like you're trying to come up with the perfect formula...you don't think everyone's tried theirs?  

 

It's not about "on paper" and if anything helps us, it's a guy who's been there.  You don't think he'll have something to share with the guys he sits beside on the bench?  That will help them/us down the road?

 

A better tomorrow is...today.   We've got Petey, Quinn, goaltending, a captain who's taken this team on as his own and it's time to start letting the horses run.  Time is now (to at least start the process...it might not be a one and done as you're banking on....that's not patient in my view - it's unrealistic)).

 

You start to give it a go and let the guys get a feel for it.  You don't wait for the "perfect opportunity" ... I'm not sure Petey will have much more patience if we don't get in this year.  I think he's chomping at the bit.  I think Marky's in perfect form.  I think you strike while the iron's hot and see how far it takes you.   Then you use that experience to progress even further.  You let the guys gain some confidence in the process...not wait until, on paper, the time is right.  A patient approach isn't "waiting" but "trying" and learning.  Building from something rather than dreaming about something. 

 

There's value in that.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, HomeBrew said:

The kid was on pace for 38 goals in his rookie season and you say it's a "looooooong stretch" that he hits 40 in his career? Get real man. 

 

 

well, he hasn't hit 30 yet sooooooo.................

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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Who are our untouchable prospects: Podkolzin, OJ, and DiPietro?  To rent Tofu cost Madden and a second.  If there are no picks included the Devils (who are clearly rebuilding) will expect a sure thing prospect.  I’m worried.  

I'd add Woo and Hoglander

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1 minute ago, Junkyard Dog said:

Any reports on that still?

 

Heard he didn't want to give up picks but I can see lesser prospects for Simmonds. I heard Vatanen is sideline and Palmeri would cost a bit

TSN1040 just said they are talking according to Jeff Patterson. 

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8 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Wow... JB in close talks with NJD..

 

Simmonds, Vantanen, Palmieri ??

 

Benning is all in. I see another prospect going out. Can't give up more picks this years draft.

 

Only guy I’d really want that may be available would be Severson

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Just now, WHL rocks said:

TSN1040 just said they are talking according to Jeff Patterson. 

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I hope we get another D-man like a Luke Schenn type, low salary, competent. Our forwards depth in the farm is fairly decent (for now) with McEwen, Bailey, Baertchi, to a lesser extent Goldy and Boucher. One injury in the top 4 and we're hooped, I'd like to see that depth shored up. You can hide forwards depending on the matchup but its extremely tough to hide D-men

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1 minute ago, WHL rocks said:

TSN1040 just said they are talking according to Jeff Patterson. 

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JB has said repeatedly in the past that he's always talking to other GM'S, always. 

Anything coming out of media in the next week before tdl has to be taken with an even bigger grain of salt imo as they get even more nuts than average fans.....it's all about the ratings to them.

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