Devron Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Smashian Kassian said: So Benning said repeatedly, they have 7 guys who he envisions being Vancouver Canucks 'in the next 2-3 years'. Wonder who that group is. -----Obvious ones; Podkolzin Juolevi Rafferty Hoglander ----- then; Lind Rathbone Wonder about the last one, Woo? DiPietro? Or is he putting MacEwen in that group? I’m going with Mac, JB said he’ll be on opening day roster next year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: Boeser for Dumba Guerin is looking for a C1 in return for Dumba. The Wild desperately needs playmaking Cs. They have wingers and defence. Boeser would probably have trouble succeeding in Minnesota. They have nowhere close to the equivalent of Pettersson to set him up. They are also a rather slow team - he doesn't have the skating speed to carry Parise-Staal. Rask and Donato are even slower skaters than Staal. This was Friedman in his 31 thoughts - Dreger also says that Guerin wants a C1 in return for Dumba: Guerin wouldn’t discuss specifics, but, according to industry buzz, the most asked-about player on his roster is Jonas Brodin, followed by Mathew Dumba. (I’d bet there’s a bit for Marcus Foligno, too.) I don’t get the sense he’s inclined to do anything with either, unless it involves an elite centre, or maybe a No. 2 centre, providing that includes something extra — like a couple of first-rounders or something along those lines. Edited February 18, 2020 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Devron44 said: You keep saying he’s rental. Just wait it out a bit you can call him a rental in the summer if he doesn’t resign lol. But yes Boes will be back. But we get to go through another summer of awesome ideas about how the fans can trade him lol I’m hoping Tofu is only a rental. I don’t think paying him 5 mil plus over a 4 or 5 year term at his age, is wise for us going forward. I like the trade though, just don’t want to keep him long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, mll said: Guerin is looking for a C1 in return for Dumba. The Wild desperately needs playmaking Cs. They have wingers and defence. Boeser would probably have trouble succeeding in Minnesota. They have nowhere close to the equivalent of Pettersson to set him up. They are also a rather slow team - he doesn't have the skating speed to carry Parise-Staal. Rask and Donato are even slower skaters than him. This was Friedman but Dreger also said that Guerin wants a C1 in return for Dumba: Guerin wouldn’t discuss specifics, but, according to industry buzz, the most asked-about player on his roster is Jonas Brodin, followed by Mathew Dumba. (I’d bet there’s a bit for Marcus Foligno, too.) I don’t get the sense he’s inclined to do anything with either, unless it involves an elite centre, or maybe a No. 2 centre, providing that includes something extra — like a couple of first-rounders or something along those lines. Again, Dumba is not worth that return. Especially with the down year he’s having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edler rocks Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Who did toffoli play with in LA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: I’m hoping Tofu is only a rental. I don’t think paying him 5 mil plus over a 4 or 5 year term at his age, is wise for us going forward. I like the trade though, just don’t want to keep him long term. If Toffoli re-signs then Sutter will be moved. I'd rather have Toffoli, an actual winger, playing on the wing than Sutter who is a centremen. Edited February 18, 2020 by peaches5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, edler rocks said: Who did toffoli play with in LA? This season? If memory serves, then he usually rolled out with Kempe and/or Carter. I don't recall Toffoli spending much time with Kopitar but I am probably wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Again, Dumba is not worth that return. Especially with the down year he’s having. I think so too but Guerin is under no obligation to trade him. He can wait - Dumba is starting to look better. Fenton failed a couple of trades and didn't maximise the return on Niederreiter and Coyle. Guerin can't do the same. He did well in the Zucker trade by being patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, peaches5 said: If Toffoli re-signs then Sutter will be moved. I'd rather have Toffoli, an actual winger, playing on the wing than Sutter who is a centremen. Looking at it as Tofu in and Sutter out I’m okay with that. The issue is I’d like his to have cap room to keep Marky and Tanev first. Sutter might have to get dumped (which will cost us sweetener to do so) in order to clear room for Marky and Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Sucks that Boeser is out for the rest of the season but this trade makes a whole lot of sense now. Hopefully we go on a long playoff run and Boeser is able to come back and provide more depth scoring. This trade was reminding me of when the Kings traded Brayden Schen for Mike Richards. Schen was a top prospect at that time, drafted top 5 and traded to reunite Carter and Richards. We know very well how that turned out. We now have a legit top 6. I think we have the right pieces to go on a deep run this year with the key factor being Markstrom (and the Pacific being weak this year). We'll go as far as Marky can take us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, edler rocks said: Who did toffoli play with in LA? listen to Jack Harris interview on TSN 1040. Will give you a good idea as to how his season has gone, and what his upside with the canucks can be. Sounds positive 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, mll said: I think so too but Guerin is under no obligation to trade him. He can wait - Dumba is starting to look better. Fenton failed a couple of trades and didn't maximise the return on Niederreiter and Coyle. Guerin can't do the same. He did well in the Zucker trade by being patient. Geurin should keep Dumba, and draft a centre. Number one ceiling young centres are rare, and expensive. RJ cost Seth Jones, and RJ isn’t even that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Benning: "up to Travis to determine fit for TT". Played with Pearson. Are they done? Always looking to improve...especially with players out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 100 pages and not even 24 hours since the trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian42 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Virtanen has looked good with Petey and Miller. Toffoli should be playing with Horvat, I’m actually pretty pissed if Eriksson is staying on the second line I thought replacing Eriksson on that line was the main motivation behind the trade as it should have been. Toffoli can still play PP1. I might have to take Eriksson out myself for the benefit of the team and fans. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, Darius said: so @stawns regarding our discussion Brock vs Jake. Turns out that this move was meant to replace BB. With toffoli practicing on the first line instead of Jake, will that be enough info for us to think that management doesnt trust Jake enough in the top 6 yet? Nope, if anything it tells me they see Jake as a guy who can drive a line, as opposed to being the third to a pair. That move had already been made when BB was healthy because BB on Gauds line wasn't working, as there was no driver on that line. Personally, I think they see Jake as one of their top 4-5 fwds. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 hours ago, JayDangles said: One thing that was mentioned about 50 pages ago, and is worth repeating. Toffoli was being targeted by Calgary and Edmonton at the deadline. This made it more important that we got him, which ups his value slightly more. I'm very happy we picked up Toffoli, given BB's injury, a need for more top 6 scoring, and a risk of our division rivals getting better instead of us... this is a strong move. Also, as a foot note, because TT is now unavailable, it means Calgary and Edmonton will become more desperate, possibly have to overpay and make a bad trade out of desperation. This trade has the potential to work on many levels. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Maybe. But after the July bonus Loui is only owed 4 million in total salary, but counts for 6 (for two years) against the cap. That’s attractive to bottom feeder, rebuilding teams when a top prospect and high pick is attached. , all that can be figured out in the off season loui may just retire after july , then it doesn't cost us assests, , Rather not use a first round pick(podi/ hoglander) plus to just gain space , there are other ways to get cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) I wonder if JB trades tanev for a pick after the season finishes. Clear up salary. Recoup a top round pick. Or Package tanev with loui as a salary dump to resign toffgoali Edited February 18, 2020 by 73 Percent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: Benning: "up to Travis to determine fit for TT". Played with Pearson. Are they done? Always looking to improve...especially with players out. I was happy with this trade and I am really happy we have Jim Benning as our GM. I feel so bad for Ferland and Boeser, hope Bess is able to come back for the playoffs. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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