Sbriggs Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, Alflives said: Just heard Elliot Friedman troll us. He said if the Canucks want Simmonds it’s going to cost Juiolevi. Not, never, no deal, not going to happen. Add a 2nd and retain 30% and then maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, rekker said: The whole thing is a farce. Simmonds of five years ago? Sure. For now though I will take Zack and the enthusiasm he brings. Sorry, I'm not singling you out because many others have stated the same thing... but why does everyone think that Big Mac is a gritty forward with toughness? I haven't seen that at all from him. I know he dropped the mitts 6 games back, but since then he hasn't laid any noticeable hits, or got involved in scrums. In fact I see him more as a gentle giant with a good shot. I know he is a cheap option for size, but I don't see him as a "tough guy" in todays NHL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 36 minutes ago, Alflives said: Stech is a rental, but is club controlled too. I think he’s worth a third. I’d rather package him with Gaud fir Risto. I like that deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, GhostsOf1994 said: I fink Buffalo should be the team to target for RHD they have Ristolainen, Montour, Miller and Jokiharju on the roster. Bogosian and a couple more rhd prospects. Not much outside Dahlin and McCabe as LHD. Baer+Goldy+Stecher for Ristolainen or Jokiharju preferring Ristolainen. With goldy/baer finishing the year with Utica on loan. He's Big Fast and plays offensively with a physical edge, yes please! You are aware that the other GM gets a say in the trade too right? Even a video game on cheat mode turns this trade down for Buffalo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Alflives said: Then I guess Jersey keeps Simmonds. Not a chance any team gives up a sure thing top four D man prospect for Simmonds. Friedman knows that too. He knows his printing this idea is trolling. Kind of shocked a Canuck’s fan would support it. Interesting. Hopefully they do or trade him elsewhere. I see no use to add Simmonds at all costs. They have MacEwen who riled up the Wild last game but Green sits him. Benning explained he brought in guys like Roussel to stand up for the skilled players. Edited February 20, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sbriggs said: Not, never, no deal, not going to happen. Add a 2nd and retain 30% and then maybe Taking Erikssons contract is the only way we pay that much for Simmonds. Hes worth a 3rd at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: Makes sense. Trade him to recoup some picks... hopefully a 2nd. Bring up Rafferty and then sign Tram when his team is done. ya i love it but trade sutter and goldobin and baertchi to sharks for jumbo joe and patty m and maybe leivo and 2021 3rd for simmonds yes please. get us that cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 35 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Is Simmonds really that tough? I'm sure he can hit, but even Petey hits. Is he snarly? Would he drop the gloves against Foligno and Kassian, etc? If not, then, no. If Stecher is truly going to be traded, maybe JB should be targeting a real heavyweight enforcer such as MacDermid as a bottom D pairing option. LAK are happily selling off all assets. With MacDermid in the lineup guys like MacEwen, Miller, Roussel, Virtanen and Horvat should feel like they can play bigger. Also I am just hoping that the shackles come off in the post season and the Canucks play a lot tougher with a group pushback mentality. Horvat, as our leader and captain, needs to show the way here IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Speculation. Jim benning is exploring options for a trade. More at 6. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, BigTramFan said: If Stecher is truly going to be traded, maybe JB should be targeting a real heavyweight enforcer such as MacDermid as a bottom D pairing option. LAK are happily selling off all assets. With MacDermid in the lineup guys like MacEwen, Miller, Roussel, Virtanen and Horvat should feel like they can play bigger. Also I am just hoping that the shackles come off in the post season and the Canucks play a lot tougher with a group pushback mentality. Horvat, as our leader and captain, needs to show the way here IMO. Those guys don’t get played in the playoffs. You need guys that can actually play. Do you actually see Green playing an enforcer when he sits MacEwan for Eriksson? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Speculation. Jim benning is exploring options for a trade. More at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, JayDangles said: Sorry, I'm not singling you out because many others have stated the same thing... but why does everyone think that Big Mac is a gritty forward with toughness? I haven't seen that at all from him. I know he dropped the mitts 6 games back, but since then he hasn't laid any noticeable hits, or got involved in scrums. In fact I see him more as a gentle giant with a good shot. I know he is a cheap option for size, but I don't see him as a "tough guy" in todays NHL Gotcha. Big Mac is by no means a clone of a young Simmons. He does however bring an edge and energy to the team that I doubt an old Simmons can. A fighter? Probably not, but the fact that he did shows me that he's hungry to do whatever it takes to earn a job. I did watch him in Penticton and he stood out. Almost like a taller Burrows. Running around being a thorn in the oppositions side. Guess I took a liking to him after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCE Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 After watching TSN I would enquire about Byfuglien depending what it would cost. but before that I was looking at Det To Det Stecher & 5th rd 2020 To Van Helm & Daley Both have won Stanley Cups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Those guys don’t get played in the playoffs. You need guys that can actually play. Do you actually see Green playing an enforcer when he sits MacEwan for Eriksson? We're not in the playoffs yet, so hard to say what Green will do in that situation. I bloody hope he would play an enforcer and MacEwen, over LE in the playoffs! Also I am not suggesting MacDermid plays every game, but someone like him could be useful playing specific games, providing toughness and energising this team. If you check his +/- MacDermid is not completely inept, he is a role player and he can actually score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: I don't think that's accurate at all. Stecher has skill and he's shown that he has heart. He's a very smooth skater, handles the puck well, has a reasonably good shot. The problem is, we have too many other guys in the system who are cheaper, who all play a similar game. If there's any truth to the idea that Tryamkin is serious about coming here, I think there's 2 guys that will likely be moved. I think Stecher gets moved for either prospect or pick, (there will be a LOT of interest if he's on the market), and I don't think Benn will be here next season either. Both of them will be part of the ongoing retooling of our defense. I think the biggest thing with Stecher is that we already have one smaller guy back there (Hughes), who is light years ahead of everyone else in talent. I think Benning wants our defense to be bigger and more punishing, and that equals Tryamkin. I believe signing him and bringing him back is a priority. Exactly, which is why his heart and his skill, while being quite good, doesn't outmatch his lack in stature and overall potential. Which is why we will be moving on You're saying what I'm saying, I was just to lazy to add all those words as people have been a bit testy lately so I kept it simple Edited February 20, 2020 by kylecanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, MoneypuckOverlord said: Speculation. Jim benning is exploring options for a trade. More at 6. If Juiolevi and Gaudette are part of his explorations then JB needs to be fired before he discovers the world isn’t flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, timberz21 said: Why would Benning get rid of him for a pick right now. My guess would be Stecher + for an upgrade on the backend. Because we are low on picks this year, and while having a decent talent pool, it's not bottomless. What we do have is a good number of prospects ready to push for spots on both D and Offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: This is absolute bull crap...he's all HEART all the time. If he's being shopped, it's more about the number crunching than anything. I go to a lot of games (and watch all of them)...he gives 110% every shift and plays much bigger than his size. I'm not saying he doesn't play with heart, it's just not enough to resign him on alone... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, lmm said: I'd be expecting a 4th maybe a 5th Think that's low, stecher is now a proven bottom six Defenseman which should be getting us a solid third. If he wasn't his size, he would be worth a second+, or we would be keeping him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 how about Stech for Montour? JB has shown interest in the past and he's like a +13 in a terrible Sabres team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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