Alflives Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: Defensive liabilities get exposed more in the playoffs. See Gardiner, Jake. Hearing about the Canes, who are missing Hamilton right now, trying to dump Gardiner. How bad is Gardiner is the team he just signed with, who needs D because of injury, are trying to just get rid of him? We definitely don’t want D men who refuse to play D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Defensive liabilities get exposed more in the playoffs. See Gardiner and Shattenkirk for example. sure but was Barrie a problem in the playoffs? looking at his stats with Colorado I don't see an issue and can't recall a particularly egregious issue like with Gardiner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Gee I hope JB isn’t adding to Stecher to bring in Barrie. I think you'd have to, but holy crackers if we could just get him for Stecher thats a no-brainer imo. Nothing perfect, no player is perfect. We can shelter Barrie a little bit by putting him with Edler, and we gain the scoring. On balance we're better imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: sure but was Barrie a problem in the playoffs? looking at his stats with Colorado I don't see an issue and can't recall a particularly egregious issue like with Gardiner. Barrie and Gardiner are way too easy to play against. Troy plays a way more physical game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 12 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Irony is that Tanev has more points than Myers so far this season. No wonder - his partner is top-5 in scoring for NHL D-men. He's going to benefit from that. A lot of the data suggests Tanev is not doing very well when Hughes is not beside him. But he's a good fit now - I just hope Benning lets him walk July 1st, because he's not going to trend upwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I think you'd have to, but holy crackers if we could just get him for Stecher thats a no-brainer imo. Nothing perfect, no player is perfect. We can shelter Barrie a little bit by putting him with Edler, and we gain the scoring. On balance we're better imo. It does sound intriguing. I’m just thinking we are already too easy to play against, and Barrie makes that worse. I’d rather we were adding meanness. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, D-Money said: No wonder - his partner is top-5 in scoring for NHL D-men. He's going to benefit from that. A lot of the data suggests Tanev is not doing very well when Hughes is not beside him. But he's a good fit now - I just hope Benning lets him walk July 1st, because he's not going to trend upwards. From your post it sounds better if JB trades Tanev now for future assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: It does sound intriguing. I’m just thinking we are already too easy to play against, and Barrie makes that worse. I’d rather we were adding meanness. hey if we could get Mason by all means. But sometimes you have to do the trades in front of you. Troy is great, he plays with a ton of heart, but he's not a physical force. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: From your post it sounds better if JB trades Tanev now for future assets. Like the future assets he used to acquire Toffoli? Tanev is a good fit for Hughes this season. He should be kept for this playoff run. In no way should the team weaken themselves this season. But he can walk July 1st - I'd much rather wait to see who is left without a team in free agency, who might be willing to sign at a discount to play with Hughes for 1 year and boost their stats for a better deal the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: hey if we could get Mason by all means. But sometimes you have to do the trades in front of you. Troy is great, he plays with a ton of heart, but he's not a physical force. According to Friedman on his latest podcast Manson, Fowler, Lindholm, Rakell, Silfverberg are not going anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: its too easily shut down, and in long streaks. And we won't get nearly as many in the post-season. Barrie is a quick fix for more even strength scoring. I don't think our problem this year is putting the puck in the net, we are one of the top scoring teams at even strength and on the PP. Our problem is keeping the puck out of our net which I don't think Barrie will really help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, kylecanuck said: I don't think our problem this year is putting the puck in the net, we are one of the top scoring teams at even strength and on the PP. Our problem is keeping the puck out of our net which I don't think Barrie will really help... Middle of the pack at EV. Top-3 on the PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, kylecanuck said: I don't think our problem this year is putting the puck in the net, we are one of the top scoring teams at even strength and on the PP. Our problem is keeping the puck out of our net which I don't think Barrie will really help... actually GF 5 on 5 we're 18th in the league. I think thats where we're going to get killed down the stretch. We need to crush teams like MIN not just squeak out a win, or in that case a single point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, mll said: According to Friedman on his latest podcast Manson, Fowler, Lindholm, Rakell, Silfverberg are not going anywhere. well this is it. My feeling is if you can make your team better you do it, sometimes you can't land the perfect player but you can get a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, D-Money said: No wonder - his partner is top-5 in scoring for NHL D-men. He's going to benefit from that. True but that is mitigated by Hughes getting over 40% of his points from the power play (which Tanev does not get any ice time). Though I suppose having Tanev as a D partner on 5 on 5 situationss is a hinderence to Hughes offensively. Nevertheless Imho, Myers has to produce more. That’s why he was given that big contract. Hughes fantastic performance has deflected that for the time being. As for letting Tanev walk, somebody has to replace those top 4 minutes. This isn’t like 2011 where we had a guy like Salo as our #5. You aren’t going to get such a player via free agency without paying a lot. ( another reason Myers got such a big contract). Only depth in our blueline is on the 3rd pairing. Scary to imagine a guy like a Benn getting top 4 minutes. Edited February 21, 2020 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, mll said: Middle of the pack at EV. Top-3 on the PP. Really, crazy! we must be dropping pretty quick as I know we where among tops not too long ago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: actually GF 5 on 5 we're 18th in the league. I think thats where we're going to get killed down the stretch. We need to crush teams like MIN not just squeak out a win, or in that case a single point. Fair enough, but still, keeping the puck out of the net is a big problem that barrie will make worst, won't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, kylecanuck said: Fair enough, but still, keeping the puck out of the net is a big problem that barrie will make worst, won't he? maybe? when I look at his actual stats his possession numbers are really good. I think with Edler he could possible be sheltered enough. Its a risk for sure tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: maybe? when I look at his actual stats his possession numbers are really good. I think with Edler he could possible be sheltered enough. Its a risk for sure tho. So what do you think it would cost to get him? And would it be worth the price if we aren't going to be able to resign him? Could Rafferty, or joulevi maybe have the same impact as Barrie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Barrie will be very expensive, especially considering it being a seller's market and prices are already high. Also not many Dmen left on market. Barrie for Tanev could be something but I'd rather keep Tanev. He and Quinn are very good together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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