higgyfan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Alflives said: 100% agree with you. Will Green change his systems, so our guys are in better position (and better to support one another) on the ice to play defensively sound? Can we continue to bleed high scoring chances and have poor possession? I think they proved that against Boston the other night. Not that they could play that way every game, but probably enough to get them into the playoffs. It will be interesting to see what they can do. It's a real test to see if they have the mettle to overcome this potential season ending situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 A few things: Quote Getting through these next few weeks are either going to make or break this team, and the catalyst might come in the form of a silver lining. Here's to hoping the team finds itself and finally reigns in some consistency so we can finally kill the bad habit of Jekyll and Hyde I think we have to get away from doing this by understanding this is a team with the training wheels still on that is learning rather than a "Jekyll and Hyde" label that suggests it's an issue. The team has had some GREAT showings (like the last one) and part of the issue is that people set the bar there and expect this is the standard...but it's fairly unrealistic to sustain that on an every game basis...for any team, let alone a fairly "new/young" team. So I think it's more about us, as fans, and being realistic when the team has peaks and valleys. Sure, they've been glaring at times but that happens on other teams too....not just this one. And, if anything, our team with rookies and players thrown together recently should get some consideration in that. Sure, they've really looked flat and struggled at times...name a team that doesn't/hasn't? I mean, look at the all mighty Bruins last game...yet, we accept "reasons" (when we use them they're called excuses) for a poor performance. We don't call their team J & H...but our team is constantly scrutinized in this way. We're up there, battling hard for a playoff spot. In the top of the pack. I think THAT tells us about the identity...that they're outperforming in a big picture way what most would have guessed at the beginning. It may not be picture perfect..but who cares? Look at St. Louis last year and how teams can be cold and then hot...matters little except where you land in the end of it all. Not many teams fly through unscathed. We talk about Marky like his outstanding play is almost a bad thing at times and that the sky falls without him. He's kept us in games that we've had no business being in...that's what a team is all about. Marky DOES win games for us but that's the beauty of it all...that goaltending is a huge factor and can steal games and we're benefiting from that. Some games he's off too....it all balances out in the end. The team hasn't played well in front of him at times, but that's part of it all. It isn't specific to our team...many teams rely on goaltending at times when they're struggling. Puck bounces the wrong way, guys start squeezing the stick too hard, etc. But it's the fact that they can regroup (and do). Inconsistency is honestly part of this game we call hockey because teams will fall victim to fatigue, injury, slumps, etc. I don't agree it's "make or break"...some waiting for the other shoe to drop need to relax and let it play out. Some teams will win, some will lose.....but holding our breath in case it goes south is kind of unnecessary and does a disservice to the process of it all. Tio the flashes of brilliance that we ARE seeing that give hope for the future. We want it all and we want it now. It may (go south). Or it may not. If they were going to "break" it would have already happened but they've shown resilience and patience. Marky pulled them through at times, sure.....but I don't feel the team is given enough credit for staying in it and bouncing back as they have. They feed off each other and Demko can very well use Marky's foundation to build one of his own. He's got a great mentor and I'm just in his/the team's corner cheering them on. Not assessing their identity because, for me, it's these guys are one helluva exciting team with huge potential. Beyond that, it's just how a season plays out....for all teams, not just this one. Unfortunate timing for sure but the litmus test should be a seasonal thing, not ongoing or based on when we're down a crucial player....that's hardly fair. Let's grade our team on the overall "year" they have. The team very well may struggle without Marky's presence...he's a huge personality in the room. So I'm going to cut them a bit of slack and hope they do manage to be ok....not grade them on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, higgyfan said: I think they proved that against Boston the other night. Not that they could play that way every game, but probably enough to get them into the playoffs. It will be interesting to see what they can do. It's a real test to see if they have the mettle to overcome this potential season ending situation. Can we rely on the other teams’ goalies to stink like the Bruin’s did? We are coming in to a wicked month of games. We need to play to keep shots down, so we don’t kill Demko, like we did Marky. Great teams limit scoring chances, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Can we rely on the other teams’ goalies to stink like the Bruin’s did? We are coming in to a wicked month of games. We need to play to keep shots down, so we don’t kill Demko, like we did Marky. Great teams limit scoring chances, right? I think Marky thrives on it all. We suggest we "killed him" but I feel we allowed him to really get in his groove. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, Alflives said: Don’t our players go south for their important medical diagnosis and care? I would lol most us hospital have state of art medical equipment , and more specialist and surgeons 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: A few things: I think we have to get away from doing this by understanding this is a team with the training wheels still on that is learning rather than a "Jekyll and Hyde" label that suggests it's an issue. The team has had some GREAT showings (like the last one) and part of the issue is that people set the bar there and expect this is the standard...but it's fairly unrealistic to sustain that on an every game basis...for any team, let alone a fairly "new/young" team. So I think it's more about us, as fans, and being realistic when the team has peaks and valleys. Sure, they've been glaring at times but that happens on other teams too....not just this one. And, if anything, our team with rookies and players thrown together recently should get some consideration in that. Sure, they've really looked flat and struggled at times...name a team that doesn't/hasn't? I mean, look at the all mighty Bruins last game...yet, we accept "reasons" (when we use them they're called excuses) for a poor performance. We don't call their team J & H...but our team is constantly scrutinized in this way. We're up there, battling hard for a playoff spot. In the top of the pack. I think THAT tells us about the identity...that they're outperforming in a big picture way what most would have guessed at the beginning. It may not be picture perfect..but who cares? Look at St. Louis last year and how teams can be cold and then hot...matters little except where you land in the end of it all. Not many teams fly through unscathed. We talk about Marky like this is a bad thing at times and that the sky falls without him. That shortchanges every other aspect of this team (including Demko). Marky DOES win games for us but that's the beauty of it all...that goaltending is a huge factor and can steal games and we're benefiting from that. Some games he's off too....it all balances out in the end. The team hasn't played well in front of him at times, but that's part of it all. It isn't specific to our team...many teams rely on goaltending at times when they're struggling. Puck bounces the wrong way, guys start squeezing the stick too hard, etc. But it's the fact that they can regroup (and do). Inconsistency is honestly part of this game we call hockey because teams will fall victim to fatigue, injury, slumps, etc. I don't agree it's "make or break"...some waiting for the other shoe to drop need to relax and let it play out. Some teams will win, some will lose.....but holding our breath in case it goes south is kind of unnecessary and does a disservice to the process of it all. It may (go south). Or it may not. If they were going to "break" it would have already happened but they've shown resilience and patience. Marky pulled them through at times, sure.....but I don't feel the team is given enough credit for staying in it and bouncing back as they have. They feed off each other and Demko can very well use Marky's foundation to build one of his own. He's got a great mentor and I'm just in his/the team's corner cheering them on. Not assessing their identity because, for me, it's these guys are one helluva exciting team with huge potential. Beyond that, it's just how a season plays out....for all teams, not just this one. Unfortunate timing for sure but the litmus test should be a seasonal thing, not ongoing or based on when we're down a crucial player....that's hardly fair. Let's grade our team on the overall "year" they have. The team very well may struggle without Marky's presence...he's a huge personality in the room. So I'm going to cut them a bit of slack and hope they do manage to be ok....not grade them on it. Good post. Considering, though, we are at the point of our rebuild where we are still just fighting to make the playoffs, was it too early in our rebuilding cycle to give up picks and prospects just so we can compete for a playoff spot? Maybe it would have been wiser to wait until Podkolzin is here? Then we would have Hollander, Juiolevi, and (IMO) Rathbone too as young guys on their ELCs filling our roster. I’m happy we are good and competitive now (Miller is fabulous) but concerned about us staying competitive for a series of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, the grinder said: I would lol most us hospital have state of art medical equipment , and more specialist and surgeons And patients with good insurance or big money don’t have to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: And patients with good insurance or big money don’t have to wait. yep im on the wait for surgery list now 3 months till im sliced and diced lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Can we rely on the other teams’ goalies to stink like the Bruin’s did? We are coming in to a wicked month of games. We need to play to keep shots down, so we don’t kill Demko, like we did Marky. Great teams limit scoring chances, right? They kept the shots down in the Boston game. The team defence was aggressive and tight. I give Demko a chance to win games; regardless of what's happening at the other end. Overall, there has been a lot of inconsistent goal tending throughout the entire league this year , so it's really up to the entire team to win games. No one gets a night off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, the grinder said: yep im on the wait for surgery list now 3 months till im sliced and diced lol And after paying taxes, working hard, and being a contributing citizen you shouldn’t have to wait. IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: They kept the shots down in the Boston game. The team defence was aggressive and tight. I give Demko a chance to win games; regardless of what's happening at the other end. Overall, there has been a lot of inconsistent goal tending throughout the entire league this year , so it's really up to the entire team to win games. No one gets a night off. Bruins scored three on 37 shots! That’s a much closer game if their goalies don’t stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: And after paying taxes, working hard, and being a contributing citizen you shouldn’t have to wait. IMO. its worksafe , so that should explain the waiting lol my arm is crooked like a dog leg after breaking it , but it taken over a year to decide surgery may fix it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Bruins scored three on 37 shots! That’s a much closer game if their goalies don’t stink. LOL Well you got me there as I thought it was closer to 32. I didn't really think Marky was playing all that well and I believe the s@%t Bear were not getting very good chances to score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, the grinder said: its worksafe , so that should explain the waiting lol my arm is crooked like a dog leg after breaking it , but it taken over a year to decide surgery may fix it Oh man I feel bad for you. I’m not a fan of socialism. It’s the good, hard working tax payers (who when they really need support from their government) that get the shaft. Monies wasted on bureaucracy should be spent on your (and all other injured workers) medical care. Its kind of obvious why our professional athletes and the wealthy who can afford it head south for medical care. You 110% deserve better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: LOL Well you got me there as I thought it was closer to 32. I didn't really think Marky was playing all that well and I believe the s@%t Bear were not getting very good chances to score. Love Marky and our team. I just really believe we are not playing the right systems to get the best out of our players. Would Trots or Tippet play these systems that allow so many shots and other teams to dominate possession in their own zone? Green can clearly run any systems. Maybe this is a directive from ownership? Goals for fill seats. We are filling seats again. Losing however will empty those seats pretty fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, IBatch said: Alf you crack me up - because of your recent posts I really can't tell if your serious. Noticed you didn't have it in you last PGT to comment on how well TG prepared the troops to play the best team in the league. Not even a "well it was the last of 25 games in the last 10 days" or anything. Keep up the good fight and try not to day drink today before the game starts ha ha Alf being true to A.L.F. , The facts are usually hidden from a specific target audience and he has trouble letting the Cat Out Of The Bag, (as we all know where he wants the cat) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said: Alf being true to A.L.F. , The facts are usually hidden from a specific target audience and he has trouble letting the Cat Out Of The Bag, (as we all know where he wants the cat) Ironically ALF is a fraidy cat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Alflives said: Love Marky and our team. I just really believe we are not playing the right systems to get the best out of our players. Would Trots or Tippet play these systems that allow so many shots and other teams to dominate possession in their own zone? Green can clearly run any systems. Maybe this is a directive from ownership? Goals for fill seats. We are filling seats again. Losing however will empty those seats pretty fast. I don't care if the opposition is dominating in our zone, as long as they are being kept away from the dangerous scoring areas. That's where I think Green did change his system against Boston. The team was far more physical in moving the opposition away from the danger zones. They didn't do that dreaded collapse, which ultimately made the team more effective at preventing high yield shots. Green prepared the players to play team defence. Nobody took the night off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 17 hours ago, smokes said: What if Demko falls flat on his face? then at least we know where he's at.. don't see it happening though, kid's a star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, ba;;isticsports said: Markstrom is 30, It was only a few years ago where he was constantly letting in weak early goals, people were wanting to run Markstrom out and were divided on keeping Nillson or him Demko is only 24 and still nowhere near the age, when Markstrom was doing that Markstrom has been stealing games for the team and playing much better Maybe it is better goaltending coaching, and Demko benefits from it? (he is not an old dog learning new tricks, and can soak it up) Hopefully Demko is able to grow and gain confidence quickly I am just glad Benning did not have enough time to trade one of our top picks or prospects to save this season in getting a Carey Price or? Time for Demko and the team to grow more as a team , and not be reliant on certain players (because these players get hurt too) I've seen a lot of comments about Marky letting in easy goals when the pucks are deflected or sight blocked by players. Marky might have played as good as now only that he had a much worse defence in front of him before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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