86Viking Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Since the rumours of us having some interest in Barrie at the TDL, and previously looking at acquiring him from Colorado I thought of a similar D with less offensive pt totals who is also a BC boy and a pending UFA july 1. Justin Schultz: - will be 30 in July -8pts in 39gp this year -over 50 games of NHL playoff experience - 0.44ppg average over his NHL career -Less $ and term possibly to sign vs Barrie Tyson Barrie: -will be 29 in July - 37pts in 65gp this year - 0.62ppg average over his NHL career -Much more offensive pt producing D -Will want more term and $ vs Schultz So, above is 2 pending UFA RHD who might be available. If our GM is inclined to add a offensive style RHD to our depth, Barrie is the younger more offensive D. But he will cost more, vs Schultz who is having a down year pts wise and might be had for less and be more affordable....we would still have to be creative with cap room but this is just a discussion. So CDC, discuss what sort of contract they may get offered from the Canucks. This would also mean we either walk away from Tanev or we move on from Stecher and have depth at the RHD position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ruilin96 Posted February 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2020 I still say we should look for a RHD who is more shut-down and physical defenseman next season. Someone like Joel Edmundson. 4 3 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: I still say we should look for a RHD who is more shut-down and physical defenseman next season. Someone like Joel Edmundson. Big Nikita will be back , but I still wouldn't say no to getting Edmundson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 DETAI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 38 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: I still say we should look for a RHD who is more shut-down and physical defenseman next season. Someone like Joel Edmundson. This please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coastal.view Posted February 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) you know this is the same justin schultz who was offered a contract previously by the nucks (he was also a bc boy at that time and we heard of that narrative then too) but chose the oilers cuz of guaranteed ice time and flopped had to resurrect his career with the penguins not sure why this organization would want him again now there are many other d men in the league without that history with this organization he would be very low down on the list of dmen i would explore adding to this team Edited February 29, 2020 by coastal.view 2 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted February 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) I'd rather just see what we have in Rafferty, Juolevi, or Rathbone tbh. Barrie can produce but is shaky in his own end, and I'm not sold on Schultz either. If it came down to either of them or Tanev I'd just keep Tanev and pair him with Hughes. Sooner or later we've gotta see what we have in our own prospects, we can't just accumulate them and leave them in lesser leagues forever. Edited February 29, 2020 by Coconuts 3 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, ruilin96 said: I still say we should look for a RHD who is more shut-down and physical defenseman next season. Someone like Joel Edmundson. He's a lefty... 2 hours ago, the grinder said: Big Nikita will be back , but I still wouldn't say no to getting Edmundson So... over load the D with lefties? Edler Hughes Benn Juolevi Tryamkin Edmundson? Myers and Rafferty as RHD signed for next year. If the Canucks are going for another big money D man via UFA, they should target Pietraneglo. Stl has no cap to sign him next year. Hughes Pietrangelo Edler Myers Juolevi Rafferty Tryamkin Benn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, GhostsOf1994 said: He's a lefty... So... over load the D with lefties? Edler Hughes Benn Juolevi Tryamkin Edmundson? Myers and Rafferty as RHD signed for next year. If the Canucks are going for another big money D man via UFA, they should target Pietraneglo. Stl has no cap to sign him next year. Hughes Pietrangelo Edler Myers Juolevi Rafferty Tryamkin Benn We don't have much cap either. Tryamkin can play right. So can Hughes. Woo is a right D and will be coming up in a couple years. I don't think Pietrangelo will accept a short (2-3 year) contract I think our 2011 D core only had 3 natural right D out of 8 or something like that. We were def playing left D on their off side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Neither both terrible without the puck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Where's Wellwood said: We don't have much cap either. Tryamkin can play right. So can Hughes. Woo is a right D and will be coming up in a couple years. I don't think Pietrangelo will accept a short (2-3 year) contract I think our 2011 D core only had 3 natural right D out of 8 or something like that. We were def playing left D on their off side. Ehrhoff had to play the right side. Bieksa and Salo were the others with Tanev appearing in the finals iirc. Same with the hall of famer frankie corrado 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) Well, this...…………….. We know both Tanev and Edler can and want to play for us We know that Myers is not going anywhere, because of his contract......except maybe Seattle, but I doubt that We know that Hughes can play both RHD or LHD, but only Hughes is a lock, and that is 4 players that are solid????? So, We have Benn, Fantenberg (if he resigns), Stetcher(if he is not traded), Joulevi, Rafferty, Brisebois, Rathbone(if signed), and Tryamkin(if signed) and that is 8 Dman to play the final 2 spots, 4 of which have NHL experience. I want to see what we have first...……..especially for 2 bottom 6 spots Edited February 29, 2020 by janisahockeynut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 37 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Well, this...…………….. We know both Tanev and Edler can and want to play for us We know that Myers is not going anywhere, because of his contract......except maybe Seattle, but I doubt that We know that Hughes can play both RHD or LHD, but only Hughes is a lock, and that is 4 players that are solid????? So, We have Benn, Fantenberg (if he resigns), Stetcher(if he is not traded), Joulevi, Rafferty, Brisebois, Rathbone(if signed), and Tryamkin(if signed) and that is 8 Dman to play the final 2 spots, 4 of which have NHL experience. I want to see what we have first...……..especially for 2 bottom 6 spots The simpler solution.....I agree.....and it more likely I think Stecher walks. It's unfortunate but they can't afford to keep him and Tanev. I couldn't imagine not bringing Tanev back. Rafferty is ready. Hughes Tanev Edler Myers Fantenberg Rafferty Benn Tryamkin It's a lower cost D group. I expect Tanev to sign for $5M, Fantenberg around $1M, Tryamkin? who knows? no more than $2M It's a bigger D group and better offensively Next year is a bit of a transition year on the back end. Edlers and Benns final year so these questions have to be answered by year end. Edler as the #3 is great for his longevity. He may even slide to #5 if things go right. They're not going to like having only 3 natural right handers but by the 21-22 season I think we see longer term solutions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: The simpler solution.....I agree.....and it more likely I think Stecher walks. It's unfortunate but they can't afford to keep him and Tanev. I couldn't imagine not bringing Tanev back. Rafferty is ready. Hughes Tanev Edler Myers Fantenberg Rafferty Benn Tryamkin It's a lower cost D group. I expect Tanev to sign for $5M, Fantenberg around $1M, Tryamkin? who knows? no more than $2M It's a bigger D group and better offensively Next year is a bit of a transition year on the back end. Edlers and Benns final year so these questions have to be answered by year end. Edler as the #3 is great for his longevity. He may even slide to #5 if things go right. They're not going to like having only 3 natural right handers but by the 21-22 season I think we see longer term solutions Totally! CC What crosses my mind, is we have to have one or two of Tryamkin, Rafferty, Juolevi, Rathbone, Brisebois or Woo exceed or reach their ceiling...it is imperative! I also hope that JB, goes shopping hard in the NCAA UFA market this summer. We need another Top NCAA Dman, and I hope that he goes after a Dman at the draft. With few early picks, it has to be BPA of course, but I hope there is one available around us. We need to find that one more top end Dman, who hopefully comes from within, within the next couple of years. (He really needs to sign Rathbone this year. He was around Fox and his traitorous ways, way too much, last year.) Fingers crossed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 17 hours ago, ruilin96 said: I still say we should look for a RHD who is more shut-down and physical defenseman next season. Someone like Joel Edmundson. I like this idea a lot. He’s at a great age, and he’d be exactly what this team needs. Good thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 15 hours ago, GhostsOf1994 said: He's a lefty... So... over load the D with lefties? Edler Hughes Benn Juolevi Tryamkin Edmundson? Myers and Rafferty as RHD signed for next year. If the Canucks are going for another big money D man via UFA, they should target Pietraneglo. Stl has no cap to sign him next year. Hughes Pietrangelo Edler Myers Juolevi Rafferty Tryamkin Benn Pietrangelo isn’t at an ideal age, and he’d cost us way too much cap and term. The Edmundson idea is a phenomenal one. Great age, fits our team needs perfectly, and could realistically be signed to good money and term. Tryamkin can also play both sides, and so Tree could easily play with Hughes or Edler if need be. @ruilin96 wins this thread hands down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 So, Edler Hughes Benn Juolevi Tryamkin and Edmundson signed or acquired for next year. Do you not see a problem there? Hughes Myers Edler Tryamkin Edmundson Benn Juolevi Rafferty Or Hughes Pietrangelo Edler Myers Tryamkin Rafferty Juolevi Benn Pietrangelo is 4 years older, so 30/31 at age of signing for a maximum of 7 years. Pietrangelo over any ufa LHD this summer, k thx. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 I like Edmundson but he is a lefty, coach Green seems to play players on their shooting side no? Plus LHD currently signed: Edler Hughes Benn Juolevi Fanta- pending ufa In a perfect world Seattle would take Myers off our hands, we may need to add something to get it done. That or #21 I like the idea of having a 2nd play making point producing D man, a righty ideally. I wouldn't touch Schultz myself, Barrie would be ideal as long as he doesn't ask for the moon. GM JB needs to clear cap space this off season, to do that you likely have to add a nice prospect or pick to dump larger salary with term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Can’t afford either unless lose all of our current UFAs. Don’t really want either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 The Canucks biggest need on defense are larger, aggressive defensemen who are responsible in their own end, and who are capable of supporting more offensively minded players. The defense is still shockingly porous, and far too many times, defensemen are caught watching. Hughes, in fact, looks to be the best overall defenseman. I can't count the amount of times I've seen him pick the puck off of a forward's stick and send it the other way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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