BigTramFan Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Trade 1...in the off season as long as JB can sign Toffoli to a reasonable contract... To BUF: Virtanen + Eriksson (after signing bonus paid) To VAN: Future considerations BUF need forwards and currently only have 4 forwards signed for next season. Virtanen could be a fantastic young piece in their rebuild around Eichel and Dahlin. Eriksson is the price that BUF pays to be able to sign Virtanen long term. Eriksson has shown that he can still produce at NHL level and his cap hit is easily affordable for BUF (plus LE's salary cost is only $5m for the remainder of his contract). VAN needs to shed cap space for next season (i.e. Eriksson) and if they resign Toffoli they likely cannot afford to keep both TT and Virtanen in 2021/22 with the projected raises for EP and QH. Trade 2...also in the off season... To DET: Stecher + Benn + Baer To VAN: Future considerations DET need help on D for next season. They only have Nemeth, Cholowski on LD and Hronek on RD. Stecher could fill a major gap in the 1st or 2nd pairing as Seider continues developing. One year of Baer is the cost of acquiring two NHL Dmen. DET have a stack of young RFAs that require resigning, but they also have $35m in cap space. Baer could remain on the roster as 14th forward (replacing Gagner) or they could play him in the AHL. Either way DET can afford the small price of cap hit in order to recruit two NHL Dmen for their roster. Again VAN needs to shed cap. Tanev needs to be resigned which means we cannot afford to keep Stecher (likely replaced by Rafferty). Benn has been displaced by Fantenberg this season. Possibly we resign Fanta or Tryamkin returns to VAN. There is also Juolevi pushing for a place in the lineup. Canucks Lineup for Next Season: Miller Pettersson Boeser Pearson Horvat Toffoli Roussel Gaudette MacEwen Motte Beagle Sutter (plus Hoglander or Lind, if Ferland is on LTIR) Edler Myers Hughes Tanev Tryamkin Rafferty Juolevi Markstrom Demko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pears Posted March 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2020 I think I’ll put this as nicely as I can. No. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Pears said: I think I’ll put this as nicely as I can. No. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinery33 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I don't even have words for this, @Pearsput it best. NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 4 hours ago, BigTramFan said: Trade 2...also in the off season... To DET: Stecher + Benn + Baer To VAN: Future considerations FYI - Detroit already has 48 contracts. You're only allowed 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRedYellow Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) Really, as in really... do not want to trade our shotgun!! He's shown progress every year and may still be even better in the future. Also hometown player. So, nope! Edited March 3, 2020 by BlackRedYellow 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 no way we give virtanen away for nothing hell no you know they can just send eriksson to ahl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Pears said: I think I’ll put this as nicely as I can. No. Thoughtful reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, goalie13 said: FYI - Detroit already has 48 contracts. You're only allowed 50. This trade is proposed for the off season. DET only have 26 contracts for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, canuktravella said: no way we give virtanen away for nothing hell no you know they can just send eriksson to ahl If you think jettisoning Eriksson's contract is "nothing" then I have no words for you... Realistically, unless there is some kind of "gentlemen's agreement" for LE to retire at the end of this season, then Virtanen is the kind of asset(s) we will have to give up to clear the LE contract. I don't believe there is any such retirement agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 50 minutes ago, canuktravella said: no way we give virtanen away for nothing hell no you know they can just send eriksson to ahl ...and save about $1m...which are inconsequential savings at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, BigTramFan said: If you think jettisoning Eriksson's contract is "nothing" then I have no words for you... Realistically, unless there is some kind of "gentlemen's agreement" for LE to retire at the end of this season, then Virtanen is the kind of asset(s) we will have to give up to clear the LE contract. I don't believe there is any such retirement agreement. I believe there is an 'agreement' just because of the fact loui 'made' the team out of camp , instead of baer , To me this means loui got 2 choices either loui was going to go to Utica and get buried in the ahl or play nice this year and play out the year and you can gracefully retire after you get your bonus july 1 , you think Loui wants to get the baer treatment at his age , he is taking the bonus and running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, BigTramFan said: If you think jettisoning Eriksson's contract is "nothing" then I have no words for you... Realistically, unless there is some kind of "gentlemen's agreement" for LE to retire at the end of this season, then Virtanen is the kind of asset(s) we will have to give up to clear the LE contract. I don't believe there is any such retirement agreement. If you think anyone would use Virtanen as a sweetener to get rid of Eriksson then I have no words for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, BigTramFan said: ...and save about $1m...which are inconsequential savings at this point... ya u dont give 20 goal scorers that are rfa away to get rid of a contract u bury eriksson a million in saving is better than nothing. plus they can trade stecher and tanevs and benns rights go frees another 9 mill up. call up juolevi rafferty and sign tryamkin 3 mill or they ckukd trade markstrom another 3.5 mill gine if they go with demko plus they could trade one or 2 of sutter beagle roussel free even more up worst case scenario toffoli and pearson can be traded if need be benning coukd purge 25-30 mill if he really needed to we need to sign gaudette and virtanen and hughes and petey the next yr not to worried bennjng will figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, BigTramFan said: Trade 1...in the off season as long as JB can sign Toffoli to a reasonable contract... To BUF: Virtanen + Eriksson (after signing bonus paid) To VAN: Future considerations BUF need forwards and currently only have 4 forwards signed for next season. Virtanen could be a fantastic young piece in their rebuild around Eichel and Dahlin. Eriksson is the price that BUF pays to be able to sign Virtanen long term. Eriksson has shown that he can still produce at NHL level and his cap hit is easily affordable for BUF (plus LE's salary cost is only $5m for the remainder of his contract). VAN needs to shed cap space for next season (i.e. Eriksson) and if they resign Toffoli they likely cannot afford to keep both TT and Virtanen in 2021/22 with the projected raises for EP and QH. Trade 2...also in the off season... To DET: Stecher + Benn + Baer To VAN: Future considerations DET need help on D for next season. They only have Nemeth, Cholowski on LD and Hronek on RD. Stecher could fill a major gap in the 1st or 2nd pairing as Seider continues developing. One year of Baer is the cost of acquiring two NHL Dmen. DET have a stack of young RFAs that require resigning, but they also have $35m in cap space. Baer could remain on the roster as 14th forward (replacing Gagner) or they could play him in the AHL. Either way DET can afford the small price of cap hit in order to recruit two NHL Dmen for their roster. Again VAN needs to shed cap. Tanev needs to be resigned which means we cannot afford to keep Stecher (likely replaced by Rafferty). Benn has been displaced by Fantenberg this season. Possibly we resign Fanta or Tryamkin returns to VAN. There is also Juolevi pushing for a place in the lineup. Canucks Lineup for Next Season: Miller Pettersson Boeser Pearson Horvat Toffoli Roussel Gaudette MacEwen Motte Beagle Sutter (plus Hoglander or Lind, if Ferland is on LTIR) Edler Myers Hughes Tanev Tryamkin Rafferty Juolevi Markstrom Demko you are giving all that talent and those assets away for nothing i'll put this as nicely as i can are you insane? Edited March 3, 2020 by coastal.view 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, canuktravella said: ya u dont give 20 goal scorers that are rfa away to get rid of a contract u bury eriksson a million in saving is better than nothing. plus they can trade stecher and tanevs and benns rights go frees another 9 mill up. call up juolevi rafferty and sign tryamkin 3 mill or they ckukd trade markstrom another 3.5 mill gine if they go with demko plus they could trade one or 2 of sutter beagle roussel free even more up worst case scenario toffoli and pearson can be traded if need be benning coukd purge 25-30 mill if he really needed to we need to sign gaudette and virtanen and hughes and petey the next yr not to worried bennjng will figure it out I'm not worried about it either, and JB will figure it out for sure. I just like to post ideas on a discussion forum in order to discuss them, so thanks for your reply and thoughts. Yep you are 100% right. JB could make those moves too. It's all down to who you wanna keep on the team. Obviously I would LIKE to keep Virtanen. However, I would rather resign Marky, Tanev, Toffoli, Gaudette; and to do that we really need to move all of Eriksson and Baer's cap hit out (not just save a million by waiving him to the minors). Virtanen is a valuable piece that could be used in a trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, coastal.view said: you are giving all that talent and those assets away for nothing i'll put this as nicely as i can are you insane? What value do you think you could get for Eriksson, Benn and Baer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 minute ago, BigTramFan said: I'm not worried about it either, and JB will figure it out for sure. I just like to post ideas on a discussion forum in order to discuss them, so thanks for your reply and thoughts. Yep you are 100% right. JB could make those moves too. It's all down to who you wanna keep on the team. Obviously I would LIKE to keep Virtanen. However, I would rather resign Marky, Tanev, Toffoli, Gaudette; and to do that we really need to move all of Eriksson and Baer's cap hit out (not just save a million by waiving him to the minors). Virtanen is a valuable piece that could be used in a trade. Totally agree. If using Jake as the sweetener to dump Loui and that allows us to sign Tofu the 100% JB better do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 12 hours ago, BigTramFan said: Trade 1...in the off season as long as JB can sign Toffoli to a reasonable contract... To BUF: Virtanen + Eriksson (after signing bonus paid) To VAN: Future considerations BUF need forwards and currently only have 4 forwards signed for next season. Virtanen could be a fantastic young piece in their rebuild around Eichel and Dahlin. Eriksson is the price that BUF pays to be able to sign Virtanen long term. Eriksson has shown that he can still produce at NHL level and his cap hit is easily affordable for BUF (plus LE's salary cost is only $5m for the remainder of his contract). VAN needs to shed cap space for next season (i.e. Eriksson) and if they resign Toffoli they likely cannot afford to keep both TT and Virtanen in 2021/22 with the projected raises for EP and QH. Trade 2...also in the off season... To DET: Stecher + Benn + Baer To VAN: Future considerations DET need help on D for next season. They only have Nemeth, Cholowski on LD and Hronek on RD. Stecher could fill a major gap in the 1st or 2nd pairing as Seider continues developing. One year of Baer is the cost of acquiring two NHL Dmen. DET have a stack of young RFAs that require resigning, but they also have $35m in cap space. Baer could remain on the roster as 14th forward (replacing Gagner) or they could play him in the AHL. Either way DET can afford the small price of cap hit in order to recruit two NHL Dmen for their roster. Again VAN needs to shed cap. Tanev needs to be resigned which means we cannot afford to keep Stecher (likely replaced by Rafferty). Benn has been displaced by Fantenberg this season. Possibly we resign Fanta or Tryamkin returns to VAN. There is also Juolevi pushing for a place in the lineup. Canucks Lineup for Next Season: Miller Pettersson Boeser Pearson Horvat Toffoli Roussel Gaudette MacEwen Motte Beagle Sutter (plus Hoglander or Lind, if Ferland is on LTIR) Edler Myers Hughes Tanev Tryamkin Rafferty Juolevi Markstrom Demko Virtanens skillset is so unique and he has a big ceiling. I don't know why people always want to trade a hometown kid who's also the type of forward Vancouver has looked for since Bertuzzi left. I agree with the idea but Benning wants to look at using one or two of the young pieces in the system as a trade chip going forward. Not draft picks he said and I'm sure he doesn't want to do roster pieces like Virtanen or Gaudette either. We also want draft picks back not just future considerations. How about we give Buffalo a younger power forward.. A prospect from Utica.. Jonah Gadjovich and Loui Eriksson for a 2020 4th. As for the trade with Detroit that's a good idea to package a younger right handed D man like Stecher with a bad contract to clear some cap. They won't want Baertschi and Benns contract though and Benn is actually a good depth D man and a hometown guy. Stecher and Baertschi to the Wings for a 2020 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 52 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: What value do you think you could get for Eriksson, Benn and Baer? benn is an asset - depth dman for many teams, we really liked him before fatenberg stepped up his game virt is an asset - he can net a solid return, has potential upside still the other 2 have no value, they can just waste and have their contracts expire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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