PhillipBlunt Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 50 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Sutter needs his sleep man. Those dark racoon eyes dont scream healthy human being. That’s the result of having balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: That’s the result of having balls. Ya for women it’s even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 hours ago, VforVirtanen said: Jesus did you stay up all night with the sheer glee of declaring yourself right? I can picture your eyes flying open and declaring “to the laptop! CDC must know my feelings on Green!” Pretty much 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Silent Man said: I've just heard on radio that coach Green gave the team a day off today. Coach Green also said something like "guys will be ready to play tomorrow" It was my WTF moment of the day. Really? I understand that he does not want players to put skates on for a day to save some energy. But there are lots of other tools that coach/manager can and should use in a situation like that, in the middle of heated playoff race. How about some video sessions? Why don't get guys in the room and show them details of Colorado games and explain how the team will play agains Colorado tomorrow? And tomorrow during morning skate go over that staff one more time on the ice? How about one on one meetings with players who are not playing great? How about PK/PP theory lessons? There are tons of way to get players attentions and to make sure that they are ready. Of course, players like coach Green- he is given them a day off , all employees like extra day off. Sure, if team comes out of the gate tommorrow and tears Colorado apart- coach Geen did the right thing with this day off. But I have my doubts.... That’s all part of the country club atmosphere around the team .. Travis Green culture no worries nothing to see here, all is good fire? What fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 7 hours ago, spook007 said: Now is NOT the time to call anyone out in the press... And the team actually didn't play badly... That’s right let’s all be so worried about being fragile that we absolutely must remain soft that’s working well isn’t it? Apparently losing does Not matter now, it’s whether you play well? hopefully the league will give us a medal of achievement at the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Curmudgeon said: You have no idea what he is saying behind closed doors. Green is not one to call out his players because he knows that doesn’t work. He will present a united front publically and deal with on-ice problems privately, away from the prying eyes of the media. And not to be impolite, but how many years experience as an NHL coach do you have? If the answer is none you are in no position at all to assess coaching competence. Like zero. How many years of playoff hockey has Green coached? None Have you ever played the game? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Oilers played 3 games in four night and won them all didn’t Green use that an excuse for losing? oh and the Oilers are young didn’t Green use that as excuse for losing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, canuck2288 said: Oilers played 3 games in four night and won them all didn’t Green use that an excuse for losing? oh and the Oilers are young didn’t Green use that as excuse for losing? You are making the bridge slippery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 To the people that say Green deals with the players behind closed doors ask yourself this why does he not make any on ice changes or line mix changes , roster changes or systems? So he just dresses down certain players and says “ok now get back out there next game” sooooo you really think anything is being “said” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, canuck2288 said: To the people that say Green deals with the players behind closed doors ask yourself this why does he not make any on ice changes or line mix changes , roster changes or systems? So he just dresses down certain players and says “ok now get back out there next game” sooooo you really think anything is being “said” You may want to visit your doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, spur1 said: You are making the bridge slippery. For Green ? maybe but pretty sure the cab is warming up no clue why you love they guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, spur1 said: Ya for women it’s even worse. Having balls? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 15 hours ago, Lazurus said: One thing not taken into account is that Hughes is playing like a rover and that causes lots of points for him but you then have forwards scrambling back to cover and the other defense man sometime switching sides. Stecher sometimes get caught too. Hughes could not play a conventional defense man role, his skill set is his skating and not so much zone play. Columbus uses a rover too and he has similar negative plus minus i have taken that into account hughes unique skills are built into the team systems of play the system is modified when he is on the ice but the overall system for his play is not designed exclusively by baum but rather it is a team system that applies to all players but clearly different positions have different roles in that system i just do not see how people think the d problems of this team rest solely on baum i say it is green's system, baum has responsibility for the dmen and ensures they understand it and implement it this is not to say that baum would not also focus on specialized skills that dmen need and would also ensure that the skill level of players is at a pro standard and that they continue to develop since hughes was raised as a unique player those posters who are so down on baum and believe he has exclusive powers over dmen must be falling all over themselves in praise of him for his fantastic ability to develop an elite prospect like hughes does anyone think any assistant d coach could do a better job then what has been done with hughes? it is a brilliant development path this kid could be close to a generational player in hindsight and baum obviously helped that growth tremendously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: That’s the result of having balls. Wut? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushman Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, coastal.view said: i have taken that into account hughes unique skills are built into the team systems of play the system is modified when he is on the ice but the overall system for his play is not designed exclusively by baum but rather it is a team system that applies to all players but clearly different positions have different roles in that system i just do not see how people think the d problems of this team rest solely on baum i say it is green's system, baum has responsibility for the dmen and ensures they understand it and implement it this is not to say that baum would not also focus on specialized skills that dmen need and would also ensure that the skill level of players is at a pro standard and that they continue to develop since hughes was raised as a unique player those posters who are so down on baum and believe he has exclusive powers over dmen must be falling all over themselves in praise of him for his fantastic ability to develop an elite prospect like hughes does anyone think any assistant d coach could do a better job then what has been done with hughes? it is a brilliant development path this kid could be close to a generational player in hindsight and baum obviously helped that growth tremendously Baum is a rookie level nhl assistant learning from a rookie level head coach In Green. Both were basically rookies on the ahl level as coaches. Zero mentoring/grooming from long time nhl head coaches as is often seen with almost every good coach in the league today... These guys are learning on the job and don't even have anyone with real experience to help them out, yet so many convinced that this duo are perfectly fine and that they are great coaches. Based on what exactly? Their mediocre and short ahl records? Im not saying green or even baumer will never be solid nhl coaches/assistants. But at this point both are so inexperienced that it's laughable to think these are the guys that will take this team to the next level. We are a year or maybe even two ahead of our rebuild in terms of how quickly our young guys have been able to contribute... We need to turf this temp coaching staff and let them learn on the job somewhere else. Deboer would of been great, gallant is another excellent choice.. An actual seasoned coach that knows something about elevating teams at the nhl level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 73 Percent said: Wut? The foundational one speaking about Nikolai Goldobin. “When he has the puck he makes pretty good plays,” said Sutter. “The challenge for him is the other side of it, what to do without the puck and that takes some time to really learn it. You have to have the want to get the puck to go into the corners and the hard areas.“ “To do that, you have to have grit and balls and he has to find that.” Edited March 6, 2020 by PhillipBlunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Kushman said: Baum is a rookie level nhl assistant learning from a rookie level head coach In Green. Both were basically rookies on the ahl level as coaches. Zero mentoring/grooming from long time nhl head coaches as is often seen with almost every good coach in the league today... These guys are learning on the job and don't even have anyone with real experience to help them out, yet so many convinced that this duo are perfectly fine and that they are great coaches. Based on what exactly? Their mediocre and short ahl records? Im not saying green or even baumer will never be solid nhl coaches/assistants. But at this point both are so inexperienced that it's laughable to think these are the guys that will take this team to the next level. We are a year or maybe even two ahead of our rebuild in terms of how quickly our young guys have been able to contribute... We need to turf this temp coaching staff and let them learn on the job somewhere else. Deboer would of been great, gallant is another excellent choice.. An actual seasoned coach that knows something about elevating teams at the nhl level. bo was a rookie player a few years back hughes is one currently ep40 was one last season only hughes remains a true rookie green is no longer a rookie nor is baum you frame them as such still to minimize them are you still a child should we refer to you as such ? i don't think so don't diminish others by making them less mature/experienced then they are is jb still a rookie gm ? this is so much nonsense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pavelbure96 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 21 hours ago, DarthMelvin said: Funny that you don't name him lol... He doesnt need to be named. If you dont know who I'm talking about then are you really a fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushman Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, coastal.view said: bo was a rookie player a few years back hughes is one currently ep40 was one last season only hughes remains a true rookie green is no longer a rookie nor is baum you frame them as such still to minimize them are you still a child should we refer to you as such ? i don't think so don't diminish others by making them less mature/experienced then they are is jb still a rookie gm ? this is so much nonsense Third season as coaches in the nhl while finishing bottom of the league in their first two seasons. Far from seasoned vets. Do you really believe in these two? Im curious what gives you so much confidence in this duo, just blind loyalty because they're coaching the canucks? Go look at the coaching history of every top tier coach in the league today. Almost all of them have an extensive resume of coaching exp as either assistants in the nhl before jumping to head or many years of struggles as headcoaches before learning the ropes and becoming recognized as top coaches in the league. I'd believe in green and baumer if they were both some savant like coaches with incredible records in the ahl, but thats not the case. They were mediocre in the ahl, and they're mediocre/bottom tier at the nhl level. Green was thrown into this job far too soon and at the very least should of been given an experienced assistant to help him out instead of taking on his mediocre assistant from utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Having balls? If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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