Coconuts Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) I'd just keep him tbh. He's still unproven at the NHL level and while he's worth something as a top pick he's not worth what some might think. Teams aren't gonna dump top D men with term for an unknown quantity unless they're facing cap issues. His value coming in on an ELC having played in what's regarded as the second best league in the world as an 18/19 year old is worth more to us than what he'd garner in a trade. Especially given what Hughes and Petey will get as raises. Edited March 11, 2020 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, qwijibo said: Probably the most realistic suggestion of comparable value on the thread. People suggesting established young stars are out to lunch. Podkolzin is one of the best prospects out there right now, we won’t trade for anything less than his current value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pears said: Podkolzin is one of the best prospects out there right now, we won’t trade for anything less than his current value. Are you suggesting his current value is the equivalent of Makar? Because others on this thread are. He certainly has value. But no team is going to move a young star D for a good forward prospect who is under contract in the KHL next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Virtanen would be on a much cheaper contract. Boeser needs to be qualified at $7.5 million the same summer we need to re-sign Petey and Quinn. So cap management will play a key role. I see Podkolzin as a top 6 forward playing with Horvat. Virtanen will most likely be on the 3rd line... If he keeps improving, he won't be much cheaper (and too expensive for the 3rd line). And no, Boeser is the year after. Edited March 11, 2020 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Are you suggesting his current value is the equivalent of Makar? Because others on this thread are. He certainly has value. But no team is going to move a young star D for a good forward prospect who is under contract in the KHL next season He also said or equivalent, not straight up Makar or Dahlin because that will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Problem is a lot of those <22 year old stud defencemen are untouchable and rightly so. I think if you want a solid young D-man you either make a massive trade (ie. Boeser/Pettersson for Provorov), you sign then when they're older through UFA or you draft them yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I'd move Hoglander before Podz. We need more size, speed, skill and an edge. More than 5'8" 183 lbs of left wing skill. It would hurt. And we'd have to get something really good in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Pears said: He also said or equivalent, not straight up Makar or Dahlin because that will never happen. Anyone who is equivalent to those guys are going to be equally untouchable. Would you trade Hughes for the equivalent of a Podkolzin level forward prospect? (who is also under contract in the KHL for another season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 So we are trading another first rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJockitch Posted March 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2020 If I had to move Podz it would be from Russia to Vancouver. 2 2 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 hours ago, luckylager said: Parayko If I HAD to You'd have to give up a lot more. 100% would do Podz for Parayko though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: I'd rather trade Boeser for a Dman than Podkolzin. Podkolzin is a stud and made for the NHL and playoff hockey. And we need a buddy for Tryamkin when he comes back. The two big Russians will help us to win the Stanley Cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 5 hours ago, qwijibo said: It’s ridiculous to suggest that Podkolzin could return any of those guys. Would you trade Hughes for Zegras? im not saying it would get the job done ofc.... im just saying we want someone good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, PunjabiCanucks said: im not saying it would get the job done ofc.... im just saying we want someone good! Of course Vancouver would want someone good. But you threw out the names of some of the top young D I’m the league. All of them are pretty much untouchable. Especially for an unproven wing prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 9 hours ago, J-Dizzle said: for help on defence who would you target? Think there could be something to - again of course, if you’re being forced - work out around players like Provorov (would the Flyers even consider moving him?) or maybe Dobson? Our forward group is pretty strong, IF we could get a solid return on the back end it might be something to think about...... No. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) double post... ...should have left it though. Edited March 12, 2020 by Kanukfanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: I'd rather trade Boeser for a Dman than Podkolzin. Podkolzin is a stud and made for the NHL and playoff hockey. And we need a buddy for Tryamkin when he comes back. The two big Russians will help us to win the Stanley Cup... Boeser has 161 points in 197 games.. Podkolzin has 0. Im not for trading either i just don't get your logic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Qwags said: While I'd love for Ferland to come back and be that second physical presence, it is looking unlikely at this point. Willie Mitchell was basically in the same boat, and he went on to win two cups and have several years more captaining the Panthers. What he needs, is a long, long break. And, well, you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Toews had 191 points in 222 games ,0.86 ppg in his first 3 seasons Brock has a ppg of 0.82 in his 3 seasons (plus 9 games in 2016) MacKinnon played 218 with a point total of 153,ppg of 0.70 Not saying Brock is the equivalent of either of those players but those are numbers you dont give up on at the age of 23...Baffles me seeing him in trade proposals on here Edited March 12, 2020 by naslund.is.king 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Given the state of our defense, if any team has a blue chipper named Keepsgoalzout I'll gladly make the trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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