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Just now, mll said:

Those cities also have high end hotels that can offer the same arrangements as the hotels in Vancouver.  

 

Edmonton's hotels... are not comparable to Vancouver's...It's silly to think non-tourist destinations like Edmonton and Minnesota have similar infrastructure compared to Vancouver. 

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2 minutes ago, Down by the River said:

Edmonton's hotels... are not comparable to Vancouver's...It's silly to think non-tourist destinations like Edmonton and Minnesota have similar infrastructure compared to Vancouver. 

Twins, Vikings, Timberwolves - visiting teams are staying at hotels that are used to accommodate pro teams.  

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1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

the 14 day quarantine rule for crossing the border might not be lifted while the playoffs are underway, so I don't see how this happens in two countries. The talk about BC hosting all of it makes a lot of sense. 

 

I'm sure the Leafs will have first crack at Rogers :lol:

 

 

Apparently that rule has been lifted for NHLers.  This was yesterday on TVA Sports reporting on Treliving's interview where he expects there will be some news next week.

 

https://www.tvasports.ca/2020/05/14/lnh-de-bonnes-nouvelles-la-semaine-prochaine

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The optimism of the great manitou of the Flames comes partly from the fact that the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, affirmed that the players of the NHL will not have to undergo two weeks of quarantine when they set foot in the country , while any other traveler will have to face it.

 

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1 hour ago, mll said:

 

It doesn't mean that the league is contemplating the idea.  Plenty of cities have volunteered.  LeBrun gave an update yesterday where they are still vetting NHL cities.

I'm not sure how they couldn't at least contemplate that as an option, there are advantages in terms of safe distancing, shot travel and good ice to play on. 

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1 hour ago, mll said:

Twins, Vikings, Timberwolves - visiting teams are staying at hotels that are used to accommodate pro teams.  

Yeah, having been to Minneapolis countless times, it’s not surprising that they are in the running. The total region population of Minneapolis/St Paul is slightly over 4,000,000. It’s a first rate city with more than enough accommodations to handle what is needed for the NHL to resume.

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Just now, Jimmy McGill said:

I'm not sure how they couldn't at least contemplate that as an option, there are advantages in terms of safe distancing, shot travel and good ice to play on. 

NHL arenas are already set up to broadcast games.  Having to move the material is costly and to set it up - pre-season games are also tried at remote locations and the broadcast is not at the level of NHL arenas where cameras are already all set up.   
 

NHL arenas also have staff that are formed and could use the work - cleaning, laundry, maintenance staff.  There are sanitisation issues.  NHL arenas are going to have to go through strict protocols - their staff has the experience.   They want for players to pretty much live in a bubble and avoid external contact as much as possible.  

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23 minutes ago, mll said:

NHL arenas are already set up to broadcast games.  Having to move the material is costly and to set it up - pre-season games are also tried at remote locations and the broadcast is not at the level of NHL arenas where cameras are already all set up.   
 

NHL arenas also have staff that are formed and could use the work - cleaning, laundry, maintenance staff.  There are sanitisation issues.  NHL arenas are going to have to go through strict protocols - their staff has the experience.   They want for players to pretty much live in a bubble and avoid external contact as much as possible.  

I get that, but I also think the Royals arena could meet that challenge e.g., maybe some of the other WHL rinks. 

 

It does seems like the "hub" idea is going to win out tho. 

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14 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I get that, but I also think the Royals arena could meet that challenge e.g., maybe some of the other WHL rinks. 

 

It does seems like the "hub" idea is going to win out tho. 

Teams also need rinks to practice as well as weight rooms, video rooms etc.   How many teams can those remote locations host comfortably in 4 to 5 star hotels.    Winnipeg has been eliminated early from consideration because they don't have the facilities to host that many teams.  

 

Each arena needs 4 NHL locker rooms and the ability to sanitise them as teams will be in and out.  They want to play 3 games per day.  

 

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4 hours ago, mll said:

Teams also need rinks to practice as well as weight rooms, video rooms etc.   How many teams can those remote locations host comfortably in 4 to 5 star hotels.    Winnipeg has been eliminated early from consideration because they don't have the facilities to host that many teams.  

 

Each arena needs 4 NHL locker rooms and the ability to sanitise them as teams will be in and out.  They want to play 3 games per day.  

 

I suspect Victoria could pull that off.... I don't know enough about the other rinks in the province to say. 

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14 hours ago, 10pavelbure96 said:

Cities that could work in bc imo 

 

Vancouver (Roger's and Colliseum), Langley ,Abbotsford, Kamloops, Kelowna, Victoria, 

 

Maybe PG, Maybe Cranbrook 

I don't even see many NHL cities able to pull it off - it's colossal to have 6-8 NHL teams practicing and playing in the same location.   

 

Just the number of ice rinks alone to practice, weight rooms and all the equipment for each team.   Those practice rinks have to be within reasonable distance to the hotel - don't see teams doing 2 hour round trips just to hit the ice.   

 

There's also the hotel standards - have to be 4 or 5 stars.  Multiple large conference rooms have to be available - they need place to do video, the different teams are probably not eating together so each also need an own area where they can have their meals.  

 

They talk of playing 3 games per day in each location.  They need 4 NHL locker rooms - 2 for the teams playing and 2 for the next 2 teams.  Teams are going to be constantly moving in and out of locker rooms - they have to be able to sanitise the place down quickly before the next team moves in.  NHL arenas have systems/procedures in place.  They also have experienced staff dealing with all the sanitisation issues - gear, laundry.  Just the volume of work is going to be enormous. 

 

They might also need more practice rinks now that the AHL has been cancelled.  Teams will likely have more than the standard 23 player roster. The AHL director talked of 12 players per team.  These players also have a place to train and practice without getting into the way of the main teams.  So that's more ice, more weight rooms.

 

Teams are going to be stationed in one hub - there's no travel between hubs during rounds.  Each team plays the other teams in that hub.  

 

The cost to displace and re-set up all the cameras, make sure that the settings are NHL standards has to also be factored in on top of all that. 

 

The league decided early that playing in non NHL cities would not be realistic.  Apparently around 15 NHL cities made a bid to be a centralised hub.  Burnside yesterday:  "That list has apparently been narrowed to Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Vegas, Dallas and Minneapolis/St. Paul being considered the front-runners."

If their city is chosen as hub the home team will not necessarily be stationed there - ie if Vancouver is a hub city the Canucks could be stationed elsewhere.

 

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9 hours ago, mll said:

I don't even see many NHL cities able to pull it off - it's colossal to have 6-8 NHL teams practicing and playing in the same location.   

 

Just the number of ice rinks alone to practice, weight rooms and all the equipment for each team.   Those practice rinks have to be within reasonable distance to the hotel - don't see teams doing 2 hour round trips just to hit the ice.   

 

There's also the hotel standards - have to be 4 or 5 stars.  Multiple large conference rooms have to be available - they need place to do video, the different teams are probably not eating together so each also need an own area where they can have their meals.  

 

They talk of playing 3 games per day in each location.  They need 4 NHL locker rooms - 2 for the teams playing and 2 for the next 2 teams.  Teams are going to be constantly moving in and out of locker rooms - they have to be able to sanitise the place down quickly before the next team moves in.  NHL arenas have systems/procedures in place.  They also have experienced staff dealing with all the sanitisation issues - gear, laundry.  Just the volume of work is going to be enormous. 

 

They might also need more practice rinks now that the AHL has been cancelled.  Teams will likely have more than the standard 23 player roster. The AHL director talked of 12 players per team.  These players also have a place to train and practice without getting into the way of the main teams.  So that's more ice, more weight rooms.

 

Teams are going to be stationed in one hub - there's no travel between hubs during rounds.  Each team plays the other teams in that hub.  

 

The cost to displace and re-set up all the cameras, make sure that the settings are NHL standards has to also be factored in on top of all that. 

 

The league decided early that playing in non NHL cities would not be realistic.  Apparently around 15 NHL cities made a bid to be a centralised hub.  Burnside yesterday:  "That list has apparently been narrowed to Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Vegas, Dallas and Minneapolis/St. Paul being considered the front-runners."

If their city is chosen as hub the home team will not necessarily be stationed there - ie if Vancouver is a hub city the Canucks could be stationed elsewhere.

 

Wouldn't all the hub cities need to be in one country though? Athletes arent exempt from the quarantine act when they cross the border.

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2 minutes ago, 10pavelbure96 said:

Wouldn't all the hub cities need to be in one country though? Athletes arent exempt from the quarantine act when they cross the border.

 

Apparently that has changed - see TVA below.  The US will likely allow the same rules as they want sports back.  The league is likely already in contact with the relevant authorities - they have to organise bringing back players from Europe.  They also have to extend the work visas so that they can continue to play. 

 

They would only cross the border for the next round.  Maybe even only after the 2nd round if they put a conference in one country and the other conference in another.  Once they are down to 4 teams they could play the final 2 rounds in one hub to reduce travel even more.  

 

On 5/15/2020 at 7:21 PM, mll said:

 

Apparently that rule has been lifted for NHLers.  This was yesterday on TVA Sports reporting on Treliving's interview where he expects there will be some news next week.

 

https://www.tvasports.ca/2020/05/14/lnh-de-bonnes-nouvelles-la-semaine-prochaine

Google translate:

The optimism of the great manitou of the Flames comes partly from the fact that the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, affirmed that the players of the NHL will not have to undergo two weeks of quarantine when they set foot in the country , while any other traveler will have to face it.

 

 

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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/what-a-24-team-stanley-cup-playoff-format-could-look-like-and-what-questions-still-need-to-be-answered/amp/

 

Edit: On further inspection it would actually be the Blackhawks. Looks like the article had the wrong team.

 

Imagine playing the Blackhawks again! What a great series that would be.

 

I hope it’s not best of 3 though. It has to be best of 5 minimum. Any player will tell you some teams don’t hit their stride till game three. Too many potentially great series could be over before they start if a team stumbles in the first two games.

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On 5/15/2020 at 9:18 AM, Down by the River said:

Edmonton's hotels... are not comparable to Vancouver's...It's silly to think non-tourist destinations like Edmonton and Minnesota have similar infrastructure compared to Vancouver. 

Lmao you need to go to Minneapolis before claiming things like that. 

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25 minutes ago, NucksCelts said:

Lmao you need to go to Minneapolis before claiming things like that. 

Lmao you need to google how many hotels are in both cities and then let me know what you find. Hint: the downtown core of Vancouver has more than the entirety of Minneapolis and St. Paul. If you looked at Metro Vancouver, there are nearly 3x as many facilities. 

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9 hours ago, DeNiro said:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/what-a-24-team-stanley-cup-playoff-format-could-look-like-and-what-questions-still-need-to-be-answered/amp/

 

Edit: On further inspection it would actually be the Blackhawks. Looks like the article had the wrong team.

 

Imagine playing the Blackhawks again! What a great series that would be.

 

I hope it’s not best of 3 though. It has to be best of 5 minimum. Any player will tell you some teams don’t hit their stride till game three. Too many potentially great series could be over before they start if a team stumbles in the first two games.

I would even prefer 7 games.  I don't think an extra week is that big of a deal at this point.  3 games is just way too short, barely shaking off the rust.  With no travel or sharing arenas with the NBA they can play every other night.  

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