smokes Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I'm a bit disappointed becaiuse I was fully expecting Hughes to break Petterson's rookie scoring for the Canucks and win the calder. Unfortunately with the season on hiatus I'm not sure that can happen with the scoring. The Calder though? Can he still get that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) I don't think so, as of right now I think Makar still wins it. I'd love to be wrong though. Makar has 50 points in 57 games while Hughes has 53 in 68. The AVs were expected to make noise this season, we weren't. Could be argued Hughes was a massive piece of our exceeding expectations while Makar stepped into a top flight team. Could be argued that Hughes playing important minutes during more games is a positive in his favour but it could also be flipped around to say Makar did almost as much pointwise in 11 fewer games. Edited March 14, 2020 by Coconuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linden17 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I don't think so, as of right now I think Makar still wins it. I'd love to be wrong though. Makar has 50 points in 57 games while Hughes has 53 in 68. The AVs were expected to make noise this season, we weren't. Could be argued Hughes was a massive piece of our exceeding expectations while Makar stepped into a top flight team. Could be argued that Hughes playing important minutes during more games is a positive in his favour but it could also be flipped around to say Makar did almost as much pointwise in 11 fewer games. You can also argue that makar has played with more productive players. Hughes has in my opinion been far more important to his team than Makar....but yeah this is more of an individual award i guess so your points are also valid. Edited March 14, 2020 by linden17 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Hughes should win for playing on a weaker non stacked team. But probably won't. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 50 minutes ago, linden17 said: You can also argue that makar has played with more productive players. Hughes has in my opinion been far more important to his team than Makar....but yeah this is more of an individual award i guess so your points are also valid. I mean, I agree with the arguments you make too. Admittedly I'm a bit cynical when it comes to this years Calder race though. I'd love nothing more than to see Hughes win but I feel like the Avs have gotten more attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I dont even care. The Calder is kind of a booby prize. what matters most is that he continues to grow as a player. handing a kid a prize that says you're the best sends completely the wrong message in terms of future growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, hammertime said: I dont even care. The Calder is kind of a booby prize. what matters most is that he continues to grow as a player. handing a kid a prize that says you're the best sends completely the wrong message in terms of future growth. If you look at the careers of many a Calder winner, it's not like they decided there was nothing more to accomplish in the game and called it a day... Dale Hawerchuk, Bobby Orr, Dave Keon, Boom Boom Geoffrion, Gump Worsley, Terry Sawchuk, Syl Apps, Luc Robitaille, Mario Lemieux, Tom Barrasso, Brian Leetch, Joe Nieuwendyk, Mike Bossy, Ray Bourque, Bobby Smith, Peter Stastny, Denis Potvin, Ken Dryden, Gil Perreault, Tony Esposito, Ed Belfour, Teemu Selanne, Peter Forsberg, Martin Brodeur, Pavel Bure, Ovechkin, Kane, Malkin, etc... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billabong Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 Calder or no Calder can we just appreciate what we have in hughes the guy is top 5 scoring in the league for defenseman, coulda hit 60 points and made pettersson yesterday’s news in FIFTY god damn years we haven’t had a defenseman this good let alone in the last 20 year for relevancy. we have 2 franchise corner stone pieces to build around. All Stanley cup winners have at least 2 franchise pivotal players, so we got ours. Can’t say that for about half the league 3 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I'm biased, but I say yes; however, it's definitely not a landslide and is a close vote. Two of the greatest rookie defensemen of all-time, definitely of the last 25 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Hughes. More points in a weaker team, and one full year younger than Makar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, linden17 said: You can also argue that makar has played with more productive players. Hughes has in my opinion been far more important to his team than Makar....but yeah this is more of an individual award i guess so your points are also valid. Colorado only scored 10 more goals than us. That not a huge difference, in team production. The majority of Makar time with MacKinnon is on the powerplay, where he only has 19 out of his 50 points on the man advantage. Likewise, Hughes gets most of his points (25 out of his 53 points) from players like Miller, Pettersson, Boeser or Horvat, playing on the powerplay. If the season ended today, I’m almost certain Hughes gets the Calder, despite Makar having a better PPG. Voters tend to vote on who has the most points, when the two candidates are near equals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 People need to stop panicking and stay calm and informed. The most important thing is taking care of our immune systems. The season will eventually resume and be played in its entirety. No need to panic. Quinn will be crowned as he deserves. This is a scene from Wuhan... The epicenter of where this all started... And it's almost contained in Wuhan. People in Vancouver or any NHL city should not be too worried. It's not 1918... It's 2020 and we've got this covered. Everyone just stay as informed as possible. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 It could also be to Makar's detriment that he wasn't able to stay healthy enough to play more games. Though I'm not sure if he missed enough games for that to be on people's minds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I’d say Hughes. And I’m not being biased here. Makar is good but no way does he have as much impact as Hughes does. Without Hughes in the line up, Vancouver isn’t even close to the playoffs. He has the ability to make those plays that lead to goals, even though he may not be assisted on them. makar is out, Avs still kick ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Im in on the canucks bandwagon, but cale makars got the it factor. he has more goals. im 51% Makar 49% Hughes. gunna be close but Makar takes it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Yes, he was going to win it anyway. Makar smakar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Mad Bro? Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I think Hughes SHOULD win. We’re no where near the playoffs without him. However I don’t think he will. Doesn’t help Makar finished the last game before the suspension with three apples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knucklehead91 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I think one thing that could be on Hughes side for winning the Calder is the fact he tied an NHL record of 3+ assist in a single game in a rookie season at 4 games. I feel like he would break the record with some of the upcoming games we would have had. Its hard to argue with Makar’s point %. However Makar isn’t quite as essential to Colorado’s success as Hughes is for Vancouver, which impact on a team may also be a factor in the deciding votes because it is going to be a very close decision. There is certainly no walk away winner this season as opposed to previous years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNucksfan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 hours ago, apollo said: People need to stop panicking and stay calm and informed. The most important thing is taking care of our immune systems. The season will eventually resume and be played in its entirety. No need to panic. Quinn will be crowned as he deserves. This is a scene from Wuhan... The epicenter of where this all started... And it's almost contained in Wuhan. People in Vancouver or any NHL city should not be too worried. It's not 1918... It's 2020 and we've got this covered. Everyone just stay as informed as possible. The coronavirus thread is that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, ABNucksfan said: The coronavirus thread is that way... Haven't you heard?? It's very contagious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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