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81,500,000 to spend. only canucks that we own.  removing whoever you want. what would your team look like?

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10 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Could depend on what the UFAs and RFAs sign for. 

has to be players in our system now. just a fun exercise.

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I guess the same lineup as now, except:

 

exchange Eriksson for Podkolzin, and Stecher for Tryamkin

 

Bring in some Russian grit

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this would be mine.               

 

miller...5,250,000

boeser...5, 850,000

horvat...5,5000,000

pearson...3,750,000

toffoli...5, 250,000

petey...7,000,000

roussel...3,000,000

gaudette...2,000,000

virtanen...2.500,000

motte...1.500,000

beagle...3,000,000

macewen...1,250,000

lind...1,000,000  

                              52,850,000

edler...6,000,000

myers...6,000,000

hughes...7,000,000

tryamkin...3,000,000

benn,,,,2,000,000

fantenberg...1,000,000

rafferty...1,000,000

                                  26,000,000

markstrom...6,000,000

demko...2,000,000     

                                    8,000,000

 

 that is 86,850,000 but has rases for petey and quinn for the following year.  

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@smithers joe

 

Replace Pearson with Podkolzin 

Replace Ferland with Hoglander 

Add Tryamkin, OJ, Rafferty to Canucks d core of

 

Miller Pettersson Boeser 

Podkolzin Horvat Toffoli 5

Hoglander Gaudette 3 Virtanen 3

Roussell Beagle Macewan 

 

Hughes Myers

Edler Tryamkin 3

Juolevi Tanev 5

Benn Rafferty

 

Demko 

Marky 6

 

Out:

Motte .975

Fantenberg .850

Leivo 1.5

Pearson 3.75

Ferland 3.5

Eriksson 6

Sutter 4.38

Baertschi 3.37

24.325

 

Edit. 

 

Then when Hughes,Pettersson, Juolevi, Demko and Rafferty need new deals theres roughly 23million without any cap increase.

 

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Miller Pettersson Boeser

Pearson Horvat Toffoli 6

Roussel Gaudette 3 Virtanen 3

Ferland Beagle MacEwen 1.4

(Motte 1.5)

 

Edler Myers

Hughes Tanev 5

Tryamkin 3 Stecher 2.5

(Rafferty)

 

Markstrom 6

(Demko)

 

Cap hit about $81m

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Posted (edited)

Miller-Pettersson-Toffoli

Pearson-Horvat-Boeser

Ferland-Gaudette-Virtanen

Motte-Beagle-MacEwen

 

 

Hughes-Tryamkin

Edler-Rafferty

Juolevi-Myers 

 

 

 

Out - Tanev, Eriksson,Sutter,Roussel,Stecher

 

Markstrom

Demko

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Miller - Pettersson - Toffoli

Pearson - Horvat - Boeser

Gaudette - Sutter - Roussel

Motte - Beagle - Virtanen

Eriksson

MacEwan

 

Edler - Myers

Hughes - Tanev

Stecher - Fantenberg

Benn

 

That's basically our current lineup if we re-sign everyone.

Personally I hope:

 

1) Eriksson gets bought out or traded, MacEwan slots in on a regular basis or Ferland ideally if he's healthy

2) If not, trade Sutter 

3) We re-sign Tanev or a similar UFA defenceman for around 4M

4) We re-sign Stecher or if need be let him walk/trade his rights and give Juolevi/Chatfield/Brisbeois/Rafferty a chance at being our 7th rotating defenceman.

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EP 

Miller

Boeser

Horvat

Toffoli

Pearson

Virtanen

Ferland (assuming ideal case where he returns to perfect health)

Gaudette

Beagle

Motte

MacEwen

Roussel

 

Edler

Hughes

Tanev

Myers

Tryamkin

Rafferty

Juolevi

 

Markstrom

Demko

 

Miller-EP-Boeser

Pearson-Horvat-Toffoli

Ferland-Gaudette-Virtanen

Motte-Beagle-MacEwen

Roussel

 

Edler-Tanev

Hughes-Tryamkin

Juolevi-Myers

Rafferty

 

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23 hours ago, GhostsOf1994 said:

 

@smithers joe

 

Replace Pearson with Podkolzin 

Replace Ferland with Hoglander 

Add Tryamkin, OJ, Rafferty to Canucks d core of

 

Miller Pettersson Boeser 

Podkolzin Horvat Toffoli 5

Hoglander Gaudette 3 Virtanen 3

Roussell Beagle Macewan 

 

Hughes Myers

Edler Tryamkin 3

Juolevi Tanev 5

Benn Rafferty

 

Demko 

Marky 6

 

Out:

Motte .975

Fantenberg .850

Leivo 1.5

Pearson 3.75

Ferland 3.5

Eriksson 6

Sutter 4.38

Baertschi 3.37

24.325

 

Edit. 

 

Then when Hughes,Pettersson, Juolevi, Demko and Rafferty need new deals theres roughly 23million without any cap increase.

 

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16 hours ago, BigTramFan said:

Miller Pettersson Boeser

Pearson Horvat Toffoli 6

Roussel Gaudette 3 Virtanen 3

Ferland Beagle MacEwen 1.4

(Motte 1.5)

 

Edler Myers

Hughes Tanev 5

Tryamkin 3 Stecher 2.5

(Rafferty)

 

Markstrom 6

(Demko)

 

Cap hit about $81m

Need to trade Tanev 30, UFA this summer always inured don't want to sign him...Trade 3rd rounder

Sign Taffoli 4 years x 5.4 million

Trade Boser to Devils --  Damon Severson 25, 6'2 - solid two way D man will fit in perfect -- prospect also in trade...

Need to trade good player to get a top #2 D man is what must be done this summer...SO so important...

 

Stetcher move will want 2.8 million x 4 years.... Rafferty to fill # 5 spot..

Markstrom 4 yrs x 5.6 million, with 7 team trade clause..Decide on either Demko or Markstrom, one of these goalies must be traded before May2021 expansion...

Will get late 1st rounder and prospect for Demko...Even more for Markstrom

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       Miller Horvat Virtanen                $5.25 + $5.5 + $3.9

 Hoglander Pettersson Boeser      $0.925 + $3.775 + $5.85

  Ferland Gaudette Podkolzin          $3.0 + $1.75 + $1.55

     Motte Beagle MacEwen              $1.4 + $3.0 + $0.975

                 Lind                                          $0.892

                                                               = $37.767

 

           Hughes Tanev                          $1.6 + $5.65

             Edler Myer                               $6.0 + $6.0

          Juolevi Rafferty                          $0.86 + $0.7

         Tryamkin Stecher                         $3.2 + $2.5

                                                               = $26.51

 

            Markstrom                                     $6.8

              Demko                                        $1.05

                                                                = $7.85

                                                             _________

                                                             == $72.127

Eriksson   $5.0 Buried cap hit

Spooner  $1.05 Remaining Buyout

Luongo    $3.03 Cap Recapture         === $81.207    

 

*Roussel IR (Picked him, there is ALWAYS someone on IR, who should not matter)?

** Louie E interchangeable with a rookie, say Hoglander, who starts in Utica, makes no diff to cap hit.

 

Gone Toffolli UFA :huh: Islanders

Gone Benn Trade 5th Dallas

Gone Fantenburg UFA Calgary

Gone Sutter & Baer combined for a 4th. Bit of a bath, but we get cap relief Columbus.

Gone Pearson Trade for a 2knd Florida.

 

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59 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

SEATTLE PROTECTED LIST    

Exempt

Edler effectively exempt as UFA

 

      Miller Horvat Virtanen                

 Hoglander Pettersson Boeser      

  Ferland Gaudette Podkolzin          

     Motte Beagle MacEwen              

                 Lind                                         

                                                               

 

           Hughes Tanev                         

             Edler Myer                               

          Juolevi Rafferty                          

         Tryamkin Stecher                         

                                                               

 

            Markstrom                                     

              Demko   

This effectively means Seattle gets to pick from Tanev, Markstrom, who I project we re-sign, Ferland, Motte, Stecher, MacEwen, and I believe on age Rafferty is available to be picked. We pay $6.8 x 5 to Markstrom in liu of any NMC. Tanev, injury prone, takes 4 x $5.65, also a good salary without any NMC. I had a hard time picking between Tanev & Tryamkin to protect. 

 

I suggest Seattle picks Markstrom. 

 

edit; $5.65 & $6.8 healthy salaries for 30 + aged athletes Tanev & Markstrom. A good balance of salary & that encourages them to sign with Vancouver this summer.  

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9 hours ago, wildcam said:

 

Need to trade Tanev 30, UFA this summer always inured don't want to sign him...Trade 3rd rounder

Sign Taffoli 4 years x 5.4 million

Trade Boser to Devils --  Damon Severson 25, 6'2 - solid two way D man will fit in perfect -- prospect also in trade...

Need to trade good player to get a top #2 D man is what must be done this summer...SO so important...

 

Stetcher move will want 2.8 million x 4 years.... Rafferty to fill # 5 spot..

Markstrom 4 yrs x 5.6 million, with 7 team trade clause..Decide on either Demko or Markstrom, one of these goalies must be traded before May2021 expansion...

Will get late 1st rounder and prospect for Demko...Even more for Markstrom

Severson is a good target, but the idea of this thread was:

81,500,000 to spend. only canucks that we own.  removing whoever you want.

 

Tanev is the best defender that the Canucks own, so it is a no-brainer that he is in my lineup under the above conditions.

 

However, if it was up to me to build a contender I would have traded Tanev (50% retained) + Stecher to TOR for a 2020 1st and Ceci a few months ago when Reilly and Muzzin were on IR and TOR were desperate to stay in the race.

Canucks probably would not have made the playoffs, but our team is not ready to contend and I would have banked the asset. This would have given us two 1st rounders in the 2020 draft. Stecher will likely walk after this season anyway, and we could have resigned Tanev in the summer as a UFA.

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10 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said:

  

               COVID - 19  2020-2021 Roster and Budget  

 

     Pearson Horvat Boeser                $3.75 + $5.5 + $5.85                                                 

      Miller Pettersson Toffoli            $0.925 + $0.925 + $5.750                                                 

  Virtanen Gaudette Podkolzin          $3.50 + $1.750 + $0.750                                           

     Motte Beagle MacEwen              $1.4 + $3.0 + $0.975                                               

           Hoglander Lind                           $0.925  +  $0.892                                             

                                                                   = $ 34.617

 

           Hughes Tryamkin                       $0.916 + $3.25                       

             Edler Tanev                               $6.0 + $6.0                             

          Rathbone Rafferty                      $0.925 + $0.7                             

              Juolevi Woo                          $0.864 + $0.800                           

                                                               = $ 19.455                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                     

            Markstrom                                     $6.0                                                                              

              Demko                                        $1.05                                                                           

                                                                = $7.05                                                                          

                                                             _________

                                                             == $ 61.220

Eriksson   Retired

Spooner  $1.05 Remaining Buyout

Luongo    $3.03 Cap Recapture ……………………………………..this is a paper transaction, I believe and will actually make the Canucks outlay of cash more positive

Myers      $3.00 Retained Trade X 4     ----------------

                                                             === $68.300   

 

*Roussel IR (Picked him, there is ALWAYS someone on IR, who should not matter)?......…….Sure!

 

Gone Benn Trade 5th Dallas

Gone Fantenburg UFA Calgary

Gone Sutter & Baer combined for a 4th. Bit of a bath, but we get cap relief Columbus.

Gone Myers 50% Retained Buffalo for a 2nd.

Gone Leivo will be walking

 

 

So, I totally lazzed out @Canuck Surfer and used your template...…....Thanks

 

This is a Roster that deals with the down turn in the economy and the reduced Cap ceiling. It also prepares for the eventual cap hits of Hughes and Pettersson. 

 

This roster is young, but I believe that a lot of NHL teams will be in the same boat after the recession, and where teams will be dealing with reduced attendance

and gate revenues...………...

 

Note...……….Seattle may defer it's entry for 1 or 2 year due to the current economic conditions, and the TV deal the NHL had with US TV will be postponed for a few years.

 

Canuck Surfer ...………..you asked!

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Out - Sutter, Roussel, Beagle, Ferland, Baertchi, Eriksson, 

 

Miller Pettersson Boeser 

Virtanen Horvat Toffoli 

Pearson Gaudette Leivo 

Motte Jassek  MacEwan 

                            Lind   

 

Hughes Tanev

Edler Stetcher

Brisebois Myers 

Sautner Rafferty 

 

Markstrom 

Demko 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said:

Out - Sutter, Roussel, Beagle, Ferland, Baertchi, Eriksson, 

 

Miller Pettersson Boeser 

Virtanen Horvat Toffoli 

Pearson Gaudette Leivo 

Motte Jassek  MacEwan 

                            Lind   

 

Hughes Tanev

Edler Stetcher

Brisebois Myers 

Sautner Rafferty 

 

Markstrom 

Demko 

 

 

Replace Stecher and Brisboies with OJ and Tryamkin.  

I like your forward group though.  

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Miller - Pettersson - Toffoli                 $5.25m + 925k + $6m* =       $12,175,000

Pearson - Horvat - Boeser                $3.75m + $5.5m + $5.875m = $15,125,000

Ferland* - Gaudette - Virtanen          $3.5m + $1.5m + $3m =          $6,000,000

Motte - Beagle - MacEwen                $1.5m + $3m + $1m =             $5,500,000

Lind                                                                                                + $891,666

                                                                                                         $39,691,666

 

 

Hughes - Tanev                                  $916,667 + $5.5m = $6,416,667                                          

Edler - Tryamkin                                 $6m + $2.5m =         $8,500,000                  

Rafferty - Myers                                  $700k + $6m =         $6,700,000    

Fantenberg                                                                        + $900k

                                                                                          $22,516,667

 

Markstrom                                                                         $6.25m

Demko                                                                             +$1,050,000

                                                                                         $7,300,000

 

Total Playing roster: 23  - cap hit: $69,507,666   

 

Other cap hits: Eriksson   $3m - retained trade

                        Roussel    $1m             "

                       Baertschi   $1.6m          "

                         Sutter      $2m              "

                        Luongo     $3.3m

                        Spooner + $1.03m 

                                          $11,930,000

 

Total Cap Hit: $81,437,666 

 

Some if's in this but assuming Eriksson doesn't retire, and Ferland can continue his career, this is how I see it. Benn gets traded, Leivo and Stecher (unfortunately) go to FA.

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